Unfucking believable
 

The cancellation of the movie means the terrorists* have won.

*Or in this case, self-important movie actors whom most people -- including those who agree with their views -- ignore, because Susan Sarandon is just plain annoying. Plus, she was obviously drunk on the Daily Show the other night. Nevertheless Bull Durham is a fun movie and why should the innocent Kevin Costner be punished like this? Waterworld was a long time ago.

This is easily my favorite scene in that movie. (Also like the speeding up to each red light.)

"You're Jewish? Hey! Just like JC!"

Celebrate my Birthday
 

Now that DebtSlave has been emanicipated, can we start talking etiquette again?

Miss Manners went off on one of the more destestable trends of late, the "treat me for my birthday" party. Washington Post version (scroll down).

I've been encountering more and more of these, and get more and more pissed off as the stakes grow. It's one thing in law school, where it's a "let's get together for pizza" thing (with a $10 tab). Now it's "let's go to a fancy restaurant" where the tab runs $50-$75+/person. Now, I'm not so cheap as to avoid paying that much for dinner, but when I do it had better be a) at a place I (or my date) choose and b) with people I want to be with, not a random collection of a friend's friends.

Do I need friends more like exDebtSlave and less like the ones I have? (Snide responses particularly appreciate)

(Feel free also to discuss the ethics of using your dead husband's sperm to fertilize yourself, not to mention the difficult decisions necessary to sending a birth announcement)

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

Yeah, you're sort of fixated on the guy, aren't you? (But, not too swift, if I have to keep doing it over and over and over . . .) ;)

And, Lynde WAS straight. The constant gay sex over all the years was just a ruse to fool his ex-wife.

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

You are CTD. No doubt in my mind.

TM

A few things that bug me today
 

Ok, changing the facts a bit. If it turns out that his mother is the one throwing the party (when I called to RSVP this was cleared up), should I bring her something to thank her for the invitation and the dinner? Note that all are coming in from out of town for an extended weekend, so it'd have to be something small. Note also that I foresee a A Big Fat Texan / Floridan Wedding "introduce the new member of the family" sort of melee at the restaurant. With less dancing and more alcohol. Hell, there probably will be dancing. We're latino, after all.

Mrs. Dangerfiled's Check-up
 

How was the prostate exam? It smarts for a second, but then you kinda get to like it...

Celebrate my Birthday
 

The proper response is to graciously thank the birthday girl/greedy bloodsucking skankball for her surprising generosity in inviting all of you out to dinner, and discreetly turn your attentions elsewhere while she, as she should, pays the entire bill.

Posthumous conceptions strike me as morbid and creepy. I think I'd rather just let everyone think I was a tart.

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

I have only socked twice ever and they are what I would call "special purpose" socks. (Not like Navin R. Johnson's "special purpose", so get your mind out of the gutter, Mr. Thurgreed.) A special purpose sock in this case is one created for a specific response to a specific thread. I therefore categorically deny being CTD and stated yesterday that I was merely attempting a homage, if you will, to em's stylings, particularly in reference to em's usage of the phrase "a gay". Because imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I am flattered that you thought enough of my imitation to flatter CTD.

spooky(just wanted to set the record straight, in a manner of speaking)fish

Hockey predictions
 

Alex started out with the Sabres, but you probably hate him from his days as a Devil.

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

Reading comprehension, Mr. Bilmore. I considered myself educated on the evilboard. It was another poster who asked a question similar to the one I asked this time. For the record, I have no particular fascination with Mr. Nelson Reilly, other than the fact that, as I stated before, he is more famous for being himself to most people than for anything he ever did.

And, I'm tired of trying to convince you that Mr. Paul Lynde, was, in fact, a gay, though if he was in fact, not a gay as you keep insisting, he may then very well be the greatest of the actors who are paid to pretend in the history of Hollywood: An non-gay actor who pretended to be a gay IRL and a non-gay in his acting roles at a time when most gay actors were pretending to be non-gays. because there were no roles in Hollywood for gays in television and the movies in the '60's and '70's. I cannot believe that you persist in doubting the veracity of the writers of the E! True Hollywood Story: Hollywood Squares.

Obey the E!, Mr. Bilmore.

spookyfish

I loved that movie....



(I think I'm reading the post right)

Dead or Alive
 

On this note: am I the only one that was shocked to see Jack Palance at the Oscars - thought he was dead.
And what about Abe Vigoda.

Vegas- Lawyer Princess or whoever knows
 

1) I don’t know anything about hotel packages because people who come to visit me stay at the luxurious guest suite at La Palace.

2) Everything I know about the ghost bar I learned from Real World. Seems like fun if you are into getting drunk, sticking your tongue down the throat of some guy you just met, taking him back to your room, then crying about really what a nice girl you are the next day.

People are talking about a new club at the MGM Grand called Tabu. Just opened last month, so my info is third hand. I am a big fan of House of Blues and the Voodoo Lounge. Of course, you can’t go wrong with the Hard Rock.

Sic transit gloria mundi (farewell to the Concorde).
 

PARIS (AFP) - Air France and British Airways sounded the death-knell of the Concorde supersonic passenger plane, saying it will stop flying at the end of October after more than quarter of a century as a transatlantic shuttle for the rich and privileged.

Alas and alack. I will never have a chance to be Harrison Ford as Linus Larabee (old money, apropos of nothing) and fly to Paris at supersonic speeds to apologize to and woo Audrey Hepburn as Sabrina. Sigh.

(yes, I'm mixing the versions -- so sue me) (and, yes, Bogart was better, but they didn't have the Concorde then)

Dead or Alive
 

Abe Vigoda is very much alive. I saw him recently do a cameo in a program or a commercial.

Abe Vigoda is also not a gay, though I got this from another source I cannot remember at the moment and not "The E True Hollywood Story: Barney Miller", or "The E True Hollywood Story: The Godfather". However, his character in "The Godfather", Sal Tessio is, in fact, dead. He was "whacked" on the order of Michael Corleone for attempting to arrange a meeting with Don Barzini at which time, Michael was to be assassinated. I have no evidence, however, that Sal Tessio was a gay.

spooky(although Tessio did tell Tom to let Mikey know "he always liked him", take that FWIW)fish.

Dead or Alive
 

I did too. I think that Steve Martin's joke about a montage for people who you think are dead, but are not, was specifically timed to occur right before everyone saw that no, Jack Palance is alive and kicking, if not pushing up.

Alternatively, the Disney people lent out one of their animatrons.

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

I too have seen E! True Hollywood Story: Hollywood Squares and Spooky indeed speaks the truth.

-T(now embarrassed)L

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

Gullible. He was only acting when he acted as though his false acting gaity was an act. In fact, it was no act - it was acting. So, stop berating me, don't try to deny that you have now mentioned the name of Charles Nelson Reilly over four times just today, and try to focus on someone or something else - it's becoming unhealthy.

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

Thank you, Mrs. Tex Lex, since some stubborn people cannot be convinced that Paul Lynde was, in fact, a gay and not acting as a gay.

Apropos of, um, interestingly enough, the makers of "The E! True Hollywood Story: Hollywood Squares" did not spend much time discussing the biography of the host of the original (and best) version, Peter Marshall.

In spite of the fact that he was born, Pierre (or Peter, if you prefer) LaCock, there was no indication that this native of Huntington, WV was a gay, thus proving Mr. Grinch's initial theory. I imagine Mr. Marshall may have changed his name not because of any potential stigma related to being a gay, but rather because he anticipated that many non-Hollywood-type Americans, like Mr. Bilmore, might eventually bear some malice toward people of French descent.

In fact, Mr. Marshall is married and has a son, Peter (or Pete) LaCock who was also a well-known major league baseball player for the Kansas City Royals in the 1970's. I do not know whether Mr. Peter LaCock Jr. was or was not a gay, as very few major-league baseball players have told other people whether they were a gay or not. In addition, because they do not produce "E! True Hollywood Stories" about professional baseball teams, the world may never know how many of their sports heroes are, in fact, gays.

And, as I mentioned before, Mr. Bilmore, I acknowledged that you had far greater knowledge of CNR's career than did I. Perhaps you have something you would like to share with the rest of the board? :) Since there will not likely be an "E! True Hollywood Story: Mr. Bilmore Baggins, Esq.", this may be your only chance. It's okay, Mr. Bilmore, you are among friends here.

spookyfish

Paul Lynde--Dead or Alive?
 

Fuck, and TM thought my Michael Jackson obsession was unhealthy....

Sic transit gloria mundi (farewell to the Concorde).
 

Have to disagree on the Bogart thing. The original Sabrina (the movie) was better than the remake because the original Sabrina (Audrey) was perfectly cast and even the lovely Juliet Binoche could not benefit by comparison.

I thought that Bogart was miscast in Sabrina -- he seemed too old, ugly, and cynical for the young, delicate, full-of-possibility Audrey. I just didn't believe she would go for him (his money and power aside). At least in the remake of Sabrina, Harrison Ford was hot. Before he got all weird and decidedly . . . Not Hot.

Both Ingrid Bergman and Lauren Bacall complemented Bogart well on screen, perhaps because they seemed more womanly and worldly than Audrey. And to think Bacall pulled that off at 19 -- must have been the voice and the eyes.

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

I googled this. Peter LaCock is really his son's name. You would think after changing his own name, Mr. Marshall would not have subjected his son to the same fate. Middle school must have been hell, what with all the kids taunting him for the redundancy of his name.

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

You see, Mr. Bilmore, another believer. Not only would young Mr. Peter LaCock have had to endure the taunting of his snickering pre-teen classmates, but he also chose a virile and manly profession where, as I mentioned before, very few of its members have ever acknowledged that they were, in fact, gays. Imagine what Mr. Peter LaCock Jr. must have gone through at the hands of his fellow ball players, what with all the balls and the swinging of bats and box scores and such. Pure hell for someone who is not a gay or otherwise fixated on sex and penises. Yeah, thanks Dad, thanks a lot, you bastard.

spookyfish

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

On the other hand, he had a ready-made source of suggestive conversation for those awkward moments when you are first trying to get your date into bed.

Celebrate my Birthday
 

I was recently invited to a "Hey I'm moving" party thrown by a guy for himself.

I like him, but could not attend a party thrown by someone in honor of himself. I felt like I'd be contributing to him turning into a loser. Parties in one's honor should be thrown by others or not thrown.

As to using corpse sperm, well, how do people who get artificially inseminated at fertility clinics know their choice of father hasn't passed on since he fired one into the cup?

Vegas- Lawyer Princess or whoever knows
 

I was there in Oct, and the Hard Rock sucked. Especially the pool area (I'd heard amazing stories from 2000-2001). I was expecting thousands of hot girls. What I got was a (funny) Australian guy next to me commenting about how big American girls' asses are...

Anyway, from what I gather from your posts, Paigow, you would detest The Palms. It is plastic and, dare I say, white T ( in a Florida white t way)...Shaq was at the Ghost Bar when we were there and the line was a mile long. I'm not waiting in ANY line to see an athlete (unless they're playing a sport). Also, I'm 27 and I felt OLD there...

On the plus side, I played blackjack with Crazy Bill Frieder until about 9 AM...

The cult of Charles Nelson.
 

The Dead Milkmen spoke of this same obsession:

"Up on the hilltop where the vultures perch,
That's where I'm gonna build my church,
Ain't gonna be no priest, ain't gonna be no boss;
Just Charles Nelson Riley nailed to a cross.
I don't piss, I don't shit, I'm gettin' no relief,
People shake there heads in disbelief.
GO!
Just me on a hilltop with 15 girls,
In a Nelson Riley orgy that'll make your hair curl.
I don't piss, I don't shit, I'm gettin' no relief,
People shake there heads in disbelief.
Yeah Charles Nelson Riley he's our man,
He can't heal the sick with the touch of his hand,
He can't walk on water, can't make wine flow;
Just another greedy actor on the late late show!
I don't piss, I don't shit, I'm gettin' no relief,
People shake there heads in disbelief.
GO!
Just me on a hilltop with 15 girls,
In a Nelson Riley orgy that'll make your hair curl.
I don't piss, I don't shit, I'm gettin' no relief,
People shake there heads in disbelief."

Celebrate my Birthday
 

That appealing comment just killed any ability I ever had to imagine getting knocked up.

p(though my ability imagine it was basically at zero anyway)j

Vegas- Lawyer Princess or whoever knows
 

Sadly I cannot judge places to go based on plastic. this is freakin vegas and I cannot afford the four seasons. I also refuse to wait on lines to get into my drinking locale. thats just bullshit. And I hear Tabu is all techno so I would probably need a good dose of X to enjoy it NTTAWWT. I appreciate your input and LPs. Suddenly I feel like goign this weekend. I need some sunshine bad. The weather here is just unreal.

Paul Lynde - a gay or not a gay?
 

I imagine that it could be equally effective whether you were a gay or not a gay. It might actually be more effective if young Mr. Peter LaCock was, in fact, a gay, as I have heard that there is less of the traditional coyness among males who are gay with regard to the act of making sex than would exist between men and women with regard to making sex. I cannot speak to this from any personal experience of my own, but maybe you could enlighten us on the subject Mr. Bilmore? :)

spookyfish

Sopranos menswear--coming to a store near you
 

FB gentlemen, you can now dress like your favorite mobster, shiny cotton shirts and all:

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/10...ob_ties+.shtml

Any takers?

Sic transit gloria mundi (farewell to the Concorde).
 

Exactamundo on Audrey as Sabrina. Poor Juliet -- it really is unfair to expect someone to try to play that role.

Au contraire. The fact that he was old ugly and cynical and that Sabrina ends up with him instead of William Holden is the whole point of the movie -- that underneath Linus's OU&C exterior beat the heart of a romantic. And so we watch Sabrina slowly realize that Linus is the guy for her after being in love with handsome and charmingly feckless younger brother David for her entire life. Sad and sweet.

It is amazing. Their chemestry in "To Have and to Have Not" is incredible -- one of the few examples where sizzle in real life shows up on the screen.

Not (you know how to whistle, Steve?) Bob

Logo; Sorority Life
 

I can tell you how, or you can snail mail it to me.

And no, we don't want it to look like a guy's package.

I knew someone here had to be able to draw :)

Dead or Alive
 

He is also a fixture at the Friar's Club roasts and on Conan, wherein requisite "He's a corpse" jokes are made to much merriment. I can only hope that my career is capped by such stature.

I have no information on whether Sal Tessio took the cannoli, as it were, NTTAWWT. But if he did, who could blame him? Everybody in that movie was a pervert. Sonny didn't want Michael to come out of the men's room with "just" his dick in his hands. Why on earth would a grown man be worried that his brother might emerge into a restaurant while holding his genitalia? And Luca Brasi slept with fishes, that sick fuck.

But the most disturbing thing about that movie is that after we are assured in very clear terms that Moe Greene is dead, he shows up as Nancy McKeon's father on "The Facts of Life." Talk about posthumous conception.

Logo; Sorority Life
 

If we're going to have a logo, I think it should be one of MR's stick figure drawings. I don't care which one, but the ones illustrating sexual positions were good. They would look good on boxers and thongs.

Sopranos menswear--coming to a store near you
 

Good, god, no. What's funny is that I used to get (that is, received unsolicited) a catalog from Bachrach that contained clothing that was substantially similar to that. I discarded it, along with the international male catalog, in the "icky, no way" pile. Fortunately, international male finally figured out, after 5 years, that I did not want the Sock (or whatever it was called). Bachrach evidently moved out of the gangter business just when it should have been getting in. Now it has a retro-Miami Vice look. No Sock required. Catalogs still coming . . . and going into the recycle bin.

A variation on my favorite stupidity defense
 

Nanky-Pooh (how Mikado), do you know my friend, General Wilburforce Harrington-Smythe? Perhaps you've read about his exploits: http://sweetchillisauce.com/ntales/WHS1.html

This guy who devotes his life to fucking with the Nigerian con artists (talk about a worthy job for the U.S. Military - go get these fuckers) is my hero.

str8

1 down, 15 to go.

Paul Lynde - Alive or Dead?
 

Having seen the E! True Holly wood Story on Hollywood Squares I had to check this out. From the Internet Movie Database (www.imdb.com):

Biography for
Paul Lynde

Page 11 of 16


Birth name
Paul Edward Lynde
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Height
5' 11"
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Mini biography
Paul Lynde was born in 1926 in Mount Vernon, Ohio (one of six children and the middle of four boys). His father was a local police officer and the sheriff of the Mount Vernon Jail for two years. Lynde got his inspiration to become an actor at the age of four or five after his mother took him to see the original silent film Ben Hur (1926). After graduating from Northwestern University, Lynde relocated to New York City where his first break came from being a stand-up comedian at the Number One Fifth Avenue nightclub. Then came an appearance on a Broadway play, New Faces of 1952.

Lynde also had a two-year run on TV with "Perry Como Show, The" (1948) and the Broadway and film versions of Bye Bye Birdie (1963). Throught his life, Lynde appeared in the Broadway plays The Impossible Years, Don't Drink the Water, and Plaza Suite. His many film credits include New Faces (1954), Send Me No Flowers (1964) and Rabbit Test (1978). One of his memorable roles is a recurring role on "Bewitched" (1964) playing the sneering, sarcastic, Uncle Arthur. He appeared on TV's "The Dean Martin Show," "The Kraft Music Hall," "The Donny and Marie Show," and both the prime-time and daytime versions of the game show "Hollywood Squares, The" (1966) where he occupied the famous center square. He had two TV series of his own, "Paul Lynde Show, The" (1972) and "Temperatures Rising" (1972). Paul Lynde's witty, wisecracking one-liners and his novel line delivery made him one of Hollywood's funniest and best loved entertainers. Paul Lynde died under mysterious circumstances when he was found dead after having drowned in his backyard swimming pool allegedly under the influence of alcohol, or after suffering a heart attack in January 1982 at age 55. He had been in ill-health for over a year with cancer or some other illness that was never fully revealed to the public before or after his death.


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IMDb mini-biography by

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Trade mark
His distinctive laugh after every joke he made on The Hollywood Squares


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Trivia
Attended Northwestern University (Evanston, IL).

Interred at Amity Cemetery in Amity, Ohio.

Posthumously "outed" by Boze Hadleigh, who has written extensively about previously closeted Hollywood actors/actresses.

The coroner who examined his body said he had the heart of an eighty-eight year old man.

Told his agent shortly before his death that he had given up cigarettes and alcohol.

Dead or Alive
 

I hope you are not calling me a gay.

spookyfish