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There are lots of things in ACA that improve healthcare, contain costs, and broader the people who can access healthcare, including a movement toward outcome based pay that you'd think conservatives would like (we'll pay people based on whether they are effective, not based on a one-size fits all payment system where a successful and unsuccessful operation get the same payment). But because of ideologues on the right, the debate on substance is not acceptable to Republicans, even today. Many of those ideologues are your traditional tax voters. There are few Republicans today who are not ideologues. The discussion has been effectively shut down by this. On the other hand, there are many Democrats who are not, and this is the outcome of two very pragmatic administrations in the Clinton and Obama administrations. One was more centrist, one more liberal, but both had a very pragmatic and non-ideological approach to things. |
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Retraining and education aren't platitudes, they're about the only hope for much of the formerly unionized working class that will need to find jobs in an economy where there are more service jobs than production jobs and where the jobs that are out there are less often unionized and so more often pay less. The problem is most of those employers would still rather hire the 25 year old child of the 50 year old former factory worker. |
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The Rs suck. They have no plan. The Ds suck because they have no useful plan. It's "Spend moar and things will be fine... nevermind the cost, or where we'll get the money" versus "let them eat cake... but make sure we keep the dim sons of bitches voting for us." Quote:
The Ds are the adults in the room. No doubt of that. But the cynical calculation of both of these terrible parties is, "How do we manage the fifty percent of the workforce we've relegated, through our policy choices, to a miserable paycheck to paycheck existence?" |
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Even if you retrain him, brilliantly, no human can compete with the advantages robots and tech confer to capitalists. |
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Without a need for privatization of public assets, or tolls, or any other fees to the public. Without raising taxes. And it helps community and regional banks. Wall Street is entirely cut out of the equation. There's a way to do all of the infrastructure using partnerships between private and public entities. Europe's done it for years, and it works quite well. It has not worked as well here because Wall St assholes lard the deals up with unnecessary financing costs, giving them a bad name, and most govt officials here can't understand the way the deals work, or how to do them sans capital markets involvement. |
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Surely there is some infrastructure that can pay for itself. For example, famously, the toll bridges into Manhattan. But there is other infrastructure that can't be supported through use fees and public/private partnerships. City streets, for example. Europe does "all of the infrastructure" this way? I. Don't. Think. So. If these magical ponies are so great, why can't we have some without the Wall-Street-assholes part? I don't buy "most government officials are stupid" as an explanation. |
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This stuff will be the favored structure soon enough. It's not if, but when. Roads, bridges, buildings, any structure can be done. People say the same thing over and over: "But we need tolls, or ownership!" Untrue. The margin can accrue from moderate financing costs added by developer, efficiencies, front loading payments, and maintenance. No ownership needed. |
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If it isn't, how does it solve the problem that Republicans don't want to spend government money on these things because the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelsons of the world don't want them to? |
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You don't sell it to Rs or Ds at a national level. You sell it in the form of mid-sized projects at the state/local levels. Creates good jobs, puts local/regional capital to good use at low risk, and saves $$$. Fuck the national Rs. Hell, fuck national politics entirely. If you're going to rebuild the country waiting for fed grants/funding, we'll have potholes big enough to swallow school buses in a few years. Think state/local. ETA: Koch and Adelson won't be enemies. Adelson needs infra to get buses of poor people in his casinos. Kochs profit, I'm sure, from sales of myriad hazardous chemical products involved in construction of roads. (If it's made with oil or tar, they've got a piece of it.) |
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Also, just sort of a macro issue for you. State and local governments will invest in their own infrastructure where Dems are in control. (They don't really need you for that). They will not where the Rs are in control. Without federal involvement, how is that going to create any jobs in red states? |
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Like, here's three hundred words about how all you idiots are painting the fence wrong and in conclusion you'll never get it done unless you tear down the fence first. How about just putting the profoundly wrong thing up front so we can all stop reading? If we're going to get an infrastructure package that means anything, it's going to need federal money. "Work state/local" is profoundly unrealistic. Clearly, I need a thesaurus to find some substitutes for "profoundly." |
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I think the disconnect here is you might be talking apples and I'm talking oranges in re project size. I also think anything that doesn't adhere to your understanding of how things work is immediately incorrect. Here's a thought: What is the difference between doing 1000 midsized infrastructure projects, and doing 10 or so monster sized ones? Still gets the same job done, doesn't it? |
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With more subtlety, fuck him. Look. A kid with his head up is arse is fine. Some of us stay there into middle age. But in a moment in the economy, in the world, where so many people are so full of shit, to listen to a person state on one hand his liberal bona fides (his politics are freshman year, from a reeeeallly bad hall), and on the other hand tout an Edward Jones advisor's conservative view of How The Economy Works? I'm compelled to dance with that? The world needs conventional thinkers in liberal clothing right now like it needs drug resistant airborne HIV. It's impossible to finally and fully refute Adder, because it'd take more bandwidth and time than we have, and you really can't properly light such person on fire except in person (when you'd feel reluctant to do so out of decency). He's wrong. Wrong as diet vodka, The Black Eyed Peas, and Richard Spencer's girlfriend. With the intellectual underpinnings of your Econ 101 Professor, and the instincts of realtor with a Barron's subscription. But fuck all that... A simple calculation ends all controversy: Would you prefer, in a foxhole, Donald Trump, or Adder? |
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I don't think there is much money "lying around in regional and community banks" unless you're interested in reducing capital requirements, something that was just a bit problematic last time around. Good community banks are struggling to maintain or add capital because lending is at capacity, so lending criteria has been tightening. Nice to see you advocating for union wages; the big trend among Republicans is to push privatization and try to move public sector spending to non-union employers. |
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