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greatwhitenorthchick 10-15-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 1436 (Post 403752)
And whether she did this more than once before. What was the history?

I had a friend in college who always got in fights. After a few times of coming to his scrawny asses aid, we all agreed to let him hang by his own rope. He got beat pretty bad a couple of times before he realized that we weren't going to pull him out of the ringer every time he wanted to fight.

The first time it happened some bystanders were shocked when we didn't step in to pull him out until it was clear he had lost. They saw we were his friends and had just let him get pummeled. I'm sure we looked like total jerks that night, but we were done.

That was my first thought when I read this: How many times had they come to her rescue and how many times had they gotten a call at 4 AM needing help?

If this was the first, they weren't really her friends.

Yeah, I just don't think you can compare boys' situations to girls' situations in this case. It doesn't really matter if she'd cried wolf before. If you went to a bar with her and she calls you later from the emergency room, you help out. My first thought would be that if she's in the emergency room, she's been raped or assaulted or someone slipped her drugs.

greatwhitenorthchick 10-15-2009 11:09 AM

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro
 
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Originally Posted by dtb (Post 403757)
Do guys actually settle disputes with fisticuffs on a regular basis?!? I mean, I have never seen college-age boys getting in a scrap, though I am sure it must happen on occasion, but how common is it, really?

In fact, I can't recall ever seeing boys over the age of 18 pummeling each other to settle scores or disputes, or whatever. Though a guy I worked with, who later made partner at my firm, says he'd regularly get involved in bar fights -- way past college, too. I'm pretty sure (though cannot remember with perfect clarity) he described to me one altercation that he'd had the prior weekend, or something. He was of the Irish persuasion. Just thought I'd mention that in case it's relevant to any responses.

An ex-bf of mine, (also Irish) got in bar fights a lot. Once I went to jail at 4 am to help him out. Also found him a good lawyer who got the charges dropped.

Then I dumped him.

notcasesensitive 10-15-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 403761)
An ex-bf of mine, (also Irish) got in bar fights a lot. Once I went to jail at 4 am to help him out. Also found him a good lawyer who got the charges dropped.

Then I dumped him.

When you dumped him, did you consider him a friend?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-15-2009 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dtb (Post 403757)
Do guys actually settle disputes with fisticuffs on a regular basis?!? I mean, I have never seen college-age boys getting in a scrap, though I am sure it must happen on occasion, but how common is it, really?

In fact, I can't recall ever seeing boys over the age of 18 pummeling each other to settle scores or disputes, or whatever. Though a guy I worked with, who later made partner at my firm, says he'd regularly get involved in bar fights -- way past college, too. I'm pretty sure (though cannot remember with perfect clarity) he described to me one altercation that he'd had the prior weekend, or something. He was of the Irish persuasion. Just thought I'd mention that in case it's relevant to any responses.

You need to have one or two good bar fights under your belt for street cred, but beyond that, you're a thug - nttawwtetc - or Irish.

When I was just out of college I got into a memorable bar fight in Chicago over the question of whether the Shenandoah or Hudson Valley was more beautiful. Then we made up, had a few drinks, shot some pool, and watched the second half of the Illini Rose Bowl game. I haven't needed another one after that.

Now that you have become WT, you'll see this more often. Would you like a list of bars in your area where you might find a fight some afternoon?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-15-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dtb (Post 403757)
Do guys actually settle disputes with fisticuffs on a regular basis?!? I mean, I have never seen college-age boys getting in a scrap, though I am sure it must happen on occasion, but how common is it, really?

That's because we know the rules of fight club.

evenodds 10-15-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 403722)
It is shocking to me that this is hard.

My late night bar days are long gone, and I never much liked bars anyways, but I never left a library or museum not knowing what happened to those I came with, and I can't imagine not responding to the Hospital call even for an acquaintence (ya'all can call at 4 am from the hospital - as long as you're somewhere in Eastern Massachusetts, I'm not going to Texas or California at that hour).

I have never left a man or woman behind and we've done enough bar-hopping (including with peeps here -- hi, RT and Shape Shifter <sniff>!) over the years that I used to make friends memorize my home phone on significantly hardcore nights of drinking. Since I live in town, I did a few 4 am jail calls to pick up my idiot friends (and their cars). After a rash of dwi stops, they got a little smarter about it.

evenodds 10-15-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 403763)
You need to have one or two good bar fights under your belt for street cred, but beyond that, you're a thug - nttawwtetc - or Irish.

When I was just out of college I got into a memorable bar fight in Chicago over the question of whether the Shenandoah or Hudson Valley was more beautiful. Then we made up, had a few drinks, shot some pool, and watched the second half of the Illini Rose Bowl game. I haven't needed another one after that.

Now that you have become WT, you'll see this more often. Would you like a list of bars in your area where you might find a fight some afternoon?

The OM brawled on the street outside a bar to defend a woman's honor on the day after our first date. I thought it was hot. Neither of us is WT. Discuss.

Adder 10-15-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 403766)
The OM brawled on the street outside a bar to defend a woman's honor on the day after our first date. I thought it was hot. Neither of us is WT. Discuss.

Any man over the age of about 25 who gets in a brawl has issues.

Sparklehorse 10-15-2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive (Post 403762)
When you dumped him, did you consider him a friend?

Maybe it's because I tend to hang with the stoners rather than the drunks but I have had plenty of guy friends, in college and beyond, and I haven't really known them to get into bar fights.

I asked 1436 the question I did because I am assuming (with all of its Felix Unger perils) that someone who gets in bar brawls on a regular basis also has issues when sober. And I would probably back away from that friendship.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-15-2009 11:35 AM

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro
 
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Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 403766)
The OM brawled on the street outside a bar to defend a woman's honor on the day after our first date. I thought it was hot. Neither of us is WT. Discuss.

Was the three-way afterwards hot?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-15-2009 11:38 AM

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 403767)
Any man over the age of about 25 who gets in a brawl has issues.

Ask the paralegal her view on this.

greatwhitenorthchick 10-15-2009 11:41 AM

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro
 
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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive (Post 403762)
When you dumped him, did you consider him a friend?

He's a facebook friend, but that's it. I would not hang out with him again, but I don't mind chatting now and then and getting facebook updates.

dtb 10-15-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparklehorse (Post 403769)

I asked 1436 the question I did because I am assuming (with all of its Felix Unger perils) that someone who gets in bar brawls on a regular basis also has issues when sober. And I would probably back away from that friendship.

I don't understand the Felix Unger reference. 'Splain?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-15-2009 11:42 AM

Re: Welcome back E/O, leagl and Fringey: no one say the name "Penske" 3 times in a ro
 
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Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 403766)
Neither of us is WT. Discuss.

All Americans are WT at heart. It's why we had to be independent from the English toffs and prigs.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 10-15-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 403750)
anyone else starting to feel like me, that this is likely my sock?

I was actually wondering if NFH was back.


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