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Hank Chinaski 06-16-2009 03:26 PM

Re: i wonder if she's even really rich
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 392649)
Thank you. Late Sunday night, I was reviewing the work of a rising star associate, a former teacher, when I saw the the word "which" used in the restrictive setting. Twice. I felt the overwhelming urge to stop fighting against rising waters and succumb to the darkness. But with your words I am reenergized to continue the battle. We shall overcome!

I read this slam on educators as some indictment of the teacher's unions and the Dem party that supports them. If so, please take this to the politics board.

futbol fan 06-16-2009 03:28 PM

Re: i wonder if she's even really rich
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 392660)
I read this slam on educators as some indictment of the teacher's unions and the Dem party that supports them. If so, please take this to the politics board.

You should check in over there because you may be needed as my second.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-16-2009 03:30 PM

Re: i wonder if she's even really rich
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 392657)
I had a partner that would see this sentence:

D. says the law says X, however, that is no longer true.

He would say "however" should almost never be used in the middle os a sentence- that is, he mirrored the Stunk rule, or inverted it. He was far to senior for me to call bs on, and I know modern usage is breaking up the S&W rule as being a rule, but it hasn't inverted the rule.

My only response was to eliminate "however" from my brief writing toolbox.

No one noticed the failure to use a semi-colon?

Pretty Little Flower 06-16-2009 03:30 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 392655)
I thought it was a good example of the silliness engaged in by the MLA.

Flower, you're correcting the associates' grammah?! Don't you have someone to do that for you?

I suppose I could have e-mailed another associate on Sunday night and instructed him or her review the brief first thing Monday morning and correct all the which-that mix-ups. That would have taken more time than fixing it myself, but you are correct that it is a bit unseemly to have to go about correcting associate grammar all the time. That is the approach I will take next time. Alternately, I will e-mail the original author of the brief with the message, "I noticed some grammatical errors. Fix them by the time I get in tomorrow."

Pretty Little Flower 06-16-2009 03:33 PM

Re: i wonder if she's even really rich
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 392660)
I read this slam on educators as some indictment of the teacher's unions and the Dem party that supports them. If so, please take this to the politics board.

No.

greatwhitenorthchick 06-16-2009 03:38 PM

Re: i wonder if she's even really rich
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 392663)
No one noticed the failure to use a semi-colon?

I did.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-16-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 392664)
I suppose I could have e-mailed another associate on Sunday night and instructed him or her review the brief first thing Monday morning and correct all the which-that mix-ups. That would have taken more time than fixing it myself, but you are correct that it is a bit unseemly to have to go about correcting associate grammar all the time. That is the approach I will take next time. Alternately, I will e-mail the original author of the brief with the message, "I noticed some grammatical errors. Fix them by the time I get in tomorrow."

I like to leave such things in the hands of a service partner, and then abuse them about a few details when I read the documents a couple of days after they go out. Like inserting "however" ten times in a document one week, and then deleting all the "howevers" they stick in the subsequent round of documents. Also, it's much better to abuse the service partners than the associates, since the associates are usually cuter.

Still, whatever works for you.

ltl/fb 06-16-2009 03:54 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
enough with the grammar, already. Though, I may be gone for a while so I guess carry on.

futbol fan 06-16-2009 03:56 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
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Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 392669)
enough with the grammar, already. Though, I may be gone for a while so I guess carry on.

Where are you going, Cryptic Fringey?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-16-2009 03:57 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 392669)
enough with the grammar, already. Though, I may be gone for a while so I guess carry on.

Flower, help her fix up this post.

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2009 04:03 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
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Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 392670)
Where are you going, Cryptic Fringey?

I believe it's shipment day for the bacon of the month club.


is it too early for fringey/bacon jokes?

futbol fan 06-16-2009 04:26 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 392673)
I believe it's shipment day for the bacon of the month club.


is it too early for fringey/bacon jokes?

If we stop making fringey/bacon jokes the terrorists will truly have won.

Fugee 06-16-2009 04:31 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
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Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 392670)
Where are you going, Cryptic Fringey?

2, and for how long? And there better be a good excuse, like to a rehab center to get back more of the old Fringey spit and vinegar.

LessinSF 06-16-2009 05:21 PM

Not If You Paid Me
 
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Already announced to be the hottest show of the summer before the June 29th premiere of the Oxygen network dance/weight-loss show Dance Your Ass Off, the cable network will have a sneak-peek half-hour preview on June 16th at 11 p.m. To see who gets to shake and rattle and rolls away each week on DYAO.
I am glad to have seen this warning on a friend's facebook page (who is involved with the show in some manner), so that I can avoid having to cauterize my eyeballs if I were to have browsed it by accident. <shudder> The end is nigh.

http://profile.ak.facebook.com/objec...04031_3873.jpg

Pretty Little Flower 06-16-2009 05:23 PM

Re: Not If You Paid Me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 392683)
I am glad to have seen this warning on a friend's facebook page (who is involved with the show in some manner), so that I can avoid having to cauterize my eyeballs if I were to have browsed it by accident. <shudder> The end is nigh.

http://profile.ak.facebook.com/objec...04031_3873.jpg


You shouldn't admit to browsing Oxygen. People will talk. And by "people," I mean Hank.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-16-2009 05:26 PM

Jessica White
 
Less, you can always cauterize your eyeballs with this:

http://azwallpapers.net/Celebrities/...e_1280x768.jpg

or:

http://www.wallpaperme.com/48251-2/M...unziker-24.JPG

TM

greatwhitenorthchick 06-16-2009 05:30 PM

Fucking FDA
 
I'm pissed at the FDA for two reasons:

1. Classifying pyridoxamine, a naturally-occurring form of vitamin B6, as a drug, so it must be prescribed; and

2. taking Zicam off the market.

Zicam is a lifesaver for my colds. fuck.

Thurgreed, that woman in the bottom picture is not pretty. Sorry.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-16-2009 05:37 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 392686)

2. taking Zicam off the market.

Zicam is a lifesaver for my colds. fuck.

You might feel differently if you couldn't smell any more.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-16-2009 05:39 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 392686)
I'm pissed at the FDA for two reasons:

1. Classifying pyridoxamine, a naturally-occurring form of vitamin B6, as a drug, so it must be prescribed; and

2. taking Zicam off the market.

Zicam is a lifesaver for my colds. fuck.

I'm pissed that Stallworth got 30 days for killing someone when driving drunk, while Vick has to fight tooth and nail for his life and career to not be completely over. Wtf?

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 392686)
Thurgreed, that woman in the bottom picture is not pretty. Sorry.

I don't think she's that pretty either. But her body is quite ridiculous.

TM

Adder 06-16-2009 05:40 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 392691)
I don't think she's that pretty either. But her body is quite ridiculous.

TM

I have to admit that I didn't look at her face until after Gwink mentioned it.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-16-2009 05:42 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 392691)
I'm pissed that Stallworth got 30 days for killing someone when driving drunk, while Vick has to fight tooth and nail for his life and career to not be completely over. Wtf?

Putting aside Vick, which is a whole other story, wasn't the victim walking across the middle of a highway/freeway early in the morning, against the light, and so forth? In other words, if Stallworth weren't drunk he wouldn't have been charged with anything. Of course, if Stallworth weren't drunk he might have avoided him, but it wasn't a reckless rampage.

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2009 05:45 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 392692)
I have to admit that I didn't look at her face until after Gwink mentioned it.

you have a thing for forearms? elbows?

Adder 06-16-2009 05:47 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 392695)
you have a thing for forearms? elbows?

For some reason, my attention was drawn elsewhere.

Also, I think she is pretty attractive overall, and think Gwink was a bit uncharitable, but I am not a fan of the tattoo.

greatwhitenorthchick 06-16-2009 05:48 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 392692)
I have to admit that I didn't look at her face until after Gwink mentioned it.

Why do you have to admit this? Does someone have a gun to your head?

Adder 06-16-2009 05:51 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 392698)
Why do you have to admit this? Does someone have a gun to your head?

Because if I didn't I would have to work instead. So, basically, yes.

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2009 05:59 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 392698)
Why do you have to admit this? Does someone have a gun to your head?

Canadians have such a distorted view of how frequently firearms play into day to day life in america.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-16-2009 06:03 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 392694)
Putting aside Vick, which is a whole other story, wasn't the victim walking across the middle of a highway/freeway early in the morning, against the light, and so forth? In other words, if Stallworth weren't drunk he wouldn't have been charged with anything. Of course, if Stallworth weren't drunk he might have avoided him, but it wasn't a reckless rampage.

"After a night drinking at a bar in Miami Beach’s Fountainebleau hotel, police said Stallworth hit Reyes, a construction crane operator who was rushing to catch a bus after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m. Stallworth told police he flashed his lights in an attempt to warn Reyes, who was not in a crosswalk when he was struck.

Stallworth had a blood-alcohol level of .126 after the crash, well above Florida’s .08 limit."

I would imagine that it would have occurred to him that hitting the brakes, as opposed to say...flashing his brights, would be a better idea if he wasn't drunk. But at least he pulled over and called the cops afterwards. And 7:15 isn't "early in the morning" in the sense you seem to be using it. There had to have been plenty of light by then.

TM

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2009 06:34 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 392701)
"After a night drinking at a bar in Miami Beach’s Fountainebleau hotel, police said Stallworth hit Reyes, a construction crane operator who was rushing to catch a bus after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m. Stallworth told police he flashed his lights in an attempt to warn Reyes, who was not in a crosswalk when he was struck.

Stallworth had a blood-alcohol level of .126 after the crash, well above Florida’s .08 limit."

I would imagine that it would have occurred to him that hitting the brakes, as opposed to say...flashing his brights, would be a better idea if he wasn't drunk. But at least he pulled over and called the cops afterwards. And 7:15 isn't "early in the morning" in the sense you seem to be using it. There had to have been plenty of light by then.

TM

victim's family got a "substantial" amount of cash as settlement, which maybe played a part in making the plea go down so easy.

Cletus Miller 06-16-2009 06:38 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 392701)
"After a night drinking at a bar in Miami Beach’s Fountainebleau hotel, police said Stallworth hit Reyes, a construction crane operator who was rushing to catch a bus after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m. Stallworth told police he flashed his lights in an attempt to warn Reyes, who was not in a crosswalk when he was struck.

Stallworth had a blood-alcohol level of .126 after the crash, well above Florida’s .08 limit."

I would imagine that it would have occurred to him that hitting the brakes, as opposed to say...flashing his brights, would be a better idea if he wasn't drunk. But at least he pulled over and called the cops afterwards. And 7:15 isn't "early in the morning" in the sense you seem to be using it. There had to have been plenty of light by then.

TM

There's plenty of precedent for NFL drunk drivers receiving little punishment after killing people. See Leonard Little:

"When tested, [Little's] blood alcohol level measured 0.19 percent, a level that exceeds the statutory level of intoxication of 0.08 in the state of Missouri. Little received 90 days in jail, four years probation and 1000 hours of community service."

Isn't (an unspoken) part of why Vick has been treated so harshly by the NFL b/c dogfighting also involves gambling? Isn't illegal gambling the NFL's biggest no-no?

I do think that the fact Vick served real prison time over some dogs, while Little and Stallworth (and many like them) get 90 days or whatever for recklessly killing a person is ridiculous. But that's not the NFL's responsibility.

LessinSF 06-16-2009 06:44 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 392686)
Thurgreed, that woman in the bottom picture is not pretty. Sorry.

I'm not sure she is a "woman" by any legal definition either.

Atticus Grinch 06-16-2009 07:06 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 392691)
I'm pissed that Stallworth got 30 days for killing someone when driving drunk, while Vick has to fight tooth and nail for his life and career to not be completely over. Wtf?

I know many people who have driven drunk. I'd wager it's close to 100% of us, Mormons excluded. So the only difference between Stallworth and 100% of non-Mormon board denizens is whether they actually killed someone rather than simply taking a reprehensible risk of killing someone. I don't know anyone who's ever made a stupid impulsive and impaired judgment to make an animal fight to the death for his own enjoyment. Well, not an animal that a DA and 12 jurors would think was too cute to die.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-16-2009 08:07 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 392709)
Well, not an animal that a DA and 12 jurors would think was too cute to die.

I would happily acquit anyone who staged a massive pit bull cage match in which only one pit bull in the world survived.

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2009 08:56 PM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 392709)
I know many people who have driven drunk. I'd wager it's close to 100% of us, Mormons excluded. So the only difference between Stallworth and 100% of non-Mormon board denizens is whether they actually killed someone rather than simply taking a reprehensible risk of killing someone. I don't know anyone who's ever made a stupid impulsive and impaired judgment to make an animal fight to the death for his own enjoyment. Well, not an animal that a DA and 12 jurors would think was too cute to die.

maybe not fight, but I guarantee GGG has caught flies and pulled the wings off

ltl/fb 06-16-2009 10:14 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
I will not have a full set of teeth before next week. And possibly not then. So the thread title is inapropos.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-16-2009 10:51 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 392717)
I will not have a full set of teeth before next week. And possibly not then. So the thread title is inapropos.

The thread will be live for at least several more weeks.

Jack Manfred 06-17-2009 02:34 AM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 392691)
I'm pissed that Stallworth got 30 days for killing someone when driving drunk, while Vick has to fight tooth and nail for his life and career to not be completely over. Wtf?

Stallworth: state court - one criminal act

Vick: federal court - continuing criminal act

Both were facing one felony count apiece. Stallworth was charged with DUI manslaughter. Vick had an indictment for "conspiracy to travel in interstate commercein aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture."

Could Stallworth have gotten a much longer sentence? Sure. I think the maximum term for DUI manslaughter in Florida is 15 years. Some news report stated that Vick faced up to 6 years in federal prison, but federal criminal sentencing is notoriously complex.

Stallworth didn't just get 30 days in jail. He agreed to 30 days jail, 2 years house arrest, 8 years of probation, a lifetime driver's privilege suspension and 1,000 hours of community service. I think Vick did less than a year before getting into a halfway house. Vick also had state charges that I believe ran concurrent to his federal time.

I agree that Stallworth's sentence seems light. But have I heard about cases where judges gave only local time (meaning jail, not prison) on DUI manslaughter cases? Sure. State judges have more discretion than federal judges on sentencing.

The settlement for the victims had a lot to do with Stallworth's deal. Not as much as people think, but that deal doesn't happen without the victim's family on board.

n.b. I think the tribal tattoo detracted from that model's bodaciousness, which was her best attribute.

Hank Chinaski 06-17-2009 07:49 AM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 392717)
I will not have a full set of teeth before next week. And possibly not then. So the thread title is inapropos.

do you need a forwarding address for the bacon?

bold_n_brazen 06-17-2009 08:03 AM

Re: Fucking FDA
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 392711)
I would happily acquit anyone who staged a massive pit bull cage match in which only one pit bull in the world survived.

Rottweilers, Dobermans and Akitas too?

Hank Chinaski 06-17-2009 09:11 AM

amazing feats of strength
 
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...LizardPool.jpg

http://www.worth1000.com/contest.asp...e=5000#entries

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-17-2009 09:27 AM

Re: amazing feats of strength
 
If you must give us bad photoshops, couldn't they be salacious?


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