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Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 465013)

this is going to step on the already low chances of winning elections for Obama and the Dems. the climate scare was fun while it lasted.

Here's the first thing Google News gave me when I searched for "david rose met office climate change":

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Contrarians Misrepresent U.K. Weather Service Research to Push Cooling Claims

Climate contrarians are again pushing “global cooling” claims, despite the fact that 2011 was the 35th year in a row in which global temperatures were above the historical average.

Today, they’re relying on a column by David Rose in the United Kingdom’s Daily Mail in which the author mischaracterizes research from the Met Office, the U.K.’s official weather and climate science research body.

According to the Met Office, they told Rose he was misrepresenting their research, but their comments failed to make it into his column.

Rose claims there has been “no warming since 1997.” But his analysis relies on cherry-picking a single year and counting forward from there. By that logic, any year that breaks the record for “warmest ever” can be used as the starting point to argue there has been cooling. The Met Office rightly pointed out that taking a longer, scientifically defensible time frame shows significant warming over the past several decades.

Further, Rose claims that the sun’s energy output will drop, saving us all from climate change. Alas, if only it were true.

According to the Met Office, the study Rose cites shows that changing solar output “would only most likely cause a reduction in global temperatures of 0.08 degrees Celsius” over the next 90 years. For those keeping score in the United States, that translates to 0.114 degrees Fahrenheit. In other words, hardly a dent in the many degrees of warming expected under a business-as-usual emissions scenario.

This isn’t the first time Rose or the Daily Mail have gotten it wrong on climate science or ignored researchers who say their work was misrepresented.

Rose’s claim comes on the heels of the Wall Street Journal publishing cooling claims in a Jan. 27 op-ed, which the Union of Concerned Scientists also debunked.

We can expect more global cooling claims from media figures and politicians who are sympathetic to a do-nothing strategy for addressing climate change.

But we shouldn't believe them.

Original has several links, fwiw.

Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 465022)

Here's the first thing Google News gave me when I searched for "david rose met office climate change":

Original has several links, fwiw.

I suspect it is all that cooling that is opening up the new shipping lanes.

I know Hank knows all about science, which is why he is so into intelligent design, global cooling, and moonbases, but, sometimes, you just need to follow the money. Still, we should really listen to Hank, who, after all, was able to cite to a real live tabloid to support his scientific conclusionss.

Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 465022)

Here's the first thing Google News gave me when I searched for "david rose met office climate change":

Original has several links, fwiw.

have you ever supported evidence that shows ther eis no climate change, or is it like your knee-jerk defense of any dems?

Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 465023)

Still, we should really listen to Hank, who, after all, was able to cite to a real live tabloid to support his scientific conclusionss.

I go straight to The Daily Mail for all of my in-depth reporting on scientific issues, just like I pick up The Economist for the tits on page 3. You have to be a discerning media consumer in this day and age.

Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 465024)

have you ever supported evidence that shows ther eis no climate change, or is it like your knee-jerk defense of any dems?

I have absolutely no doubt that there are many facts that one could point to in order to argue that human-induced climate change is not a problem. What we call climate is a huge collection of disparate phenomena, so of course different indicators will point in different directions. That being the case, trying to figure out whom to trust can be hard. I had never heard of David Rose before, but what you linked and what I found and linked leave me disinclined to trust him. Nor do I believe that you feel much differently, but I think you enjoy trolling/playing Devil's Advocate/tweaking the sensibilities of the haute bourgeoisie on this subject.

Knock me over with a feather.

Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 465027)

the thing I think is craziest from all of the current R-crazy is global warming. I really don't get how it is even a political issue, especially when the Dems aren't suggesting we do anything, other than worry. But I think Newt feels there is evidence, and he gets flak over it. How fucking nutty is that, like he evaluates the science differently than the other guys, so he is bad. I can understand a bright line test on abortion or tax or whatev, but evaluating science as if there can be no way to believe global warming is real, it's nutty, right?

Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 465029)

since none of you have a BS degree but you all sport BAs ain't any bourgeoisie in your ranks.

Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 465027)

Damn. I just wasted like $4 bucks on an economist.

Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 465050)

How fucking nutty is that, like he evaluates the science differently than the other guys, so he is bad. I can understand a bright line test on abortion or tax or whatev, but evaluating science as if there can be no way to believe global warming is real, it's nutty, right?

That is nutty, although I'm not sure its the nuttiest of all current craziness.

I'm most worried that Newt may have screwed up his chance to really injure Romney's campaign. Pull it together you fat, crazy slug!

S_A_M

Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 465050)

They don't think it's science.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 465053)

since none of you have a BS degree but you all sport BAs ain't any bourgeoisie in your ranks.

Eh-hem.

B.S.B., baby.

Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 465050)

I truly believe Newt's views on the moonbase are the most sensible science uttered by a Republican candidated for President in the last 20 years.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 465063)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6...325920f4_b.jpg

See that tall building there, pooch? That is the empire state building. I will own it sometime in my second term when I go totally socialist . . .