Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 397792)

One of my closest friends got to the point that she'd drink wine that had been opened for a few days and turned bad. Didn't seem to notice or care that it was downright awful. She lived down the street from me for years, and would stop by my house two or three times a week. I'd hide the booze in my house from her and stopped stocking wine all together, because I knew three or four bottles would be emptied if she came by. So did her roommate, who eventually moved out because of the drinking. It was really, really hard to talk to her about it, and several of us tried. But it wasn't until my boyfriend, another addict (15 years clean off of cocaine) came into our circle of friends that she had someone to talk to in langauage that she could understand that she started thinking about trying to quit. She tried on her own, and failed miserably, and then went to outpatient rehab.

It's been a year. She stopped going to meetings after about four months; she sort of thought of those meetings as being cultish. She says that she can control it now, but I'm not so sure. This spring, she had her contract non-renewed, and as of August 31, she's out of a job. I'm pretty sure that her drinking led to the poor performance evaluation that led to the non-renewal of her contract. I'm also pretty sure that had she NOT been through rehab, she would have spent the spring inside a bottle. But the closer and closer she's getting to that August 31 deadline, the more her drinking is becoming something we're worried about. She's moving to Costa Rica next week for a two month clear her head and figure out what she wants to do with the rest of her life. I hope that there are meetings in Costa Rica, and I hope that she has the good sense to go to them. I doubt it though.

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 397798)

I think your friend needs to revisit her definition of a cult. I assume she was just looking for a disparaging term for group membership in general. The best definition I've heard for a cult is that it combines a high degree of interest in novel religious beliefs with a high degree of tension with society. It seems to me, and I think any person without an axe to grind, that AA is the polar opposite of both. So to your friend, "cult" simply means "group that has expectations of its members." If she thinks that's bad and wrong, her prognosis is very poor.

I shall pray for your friend to my invisible god who wrote a book about himself 2,000 years ago but failed to invent IP law until some years later. He's a bit of a doofus but well-meaning and with a wicked sense of humor.

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 397729)

And which esteemed posters did you think needed to read that?

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 397802)

That article was longer than 30 years dry.

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 397803)

No offense or anything, but how would you know?

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 397792)

One of my closest friends got to the point that she'd drink wine that had been opened for a few days and turned bad.

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 397805)

I am 108 years old* and spent 30 of them dry during the early part of the 20th Century.

*Several posters should be more than willing to vouch for my age.

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 397806)

Uh-oh. I have been known to drink the day-after wine, cheap bastard that I am, because throwing it away is a sin. Is a trip to Costa Rica in the cards for me?

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 397808)

It hasn't had adequate time to breathe until the next morning.

I do the same thing with mayonnaise. And lox.

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 397792)

But it wasn't until my boyfriend, another addict (15 years clean off of cocaine) came into our circle of friends that she had someone to talk to in langauage that she could understand that she started thinking about trying to quit.

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 397809)

We keep the butter in a kitchen cabinet. No fridge.

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 397805)

I am 108 years old* and spent 30 of them dry during the early part of the 20th Century.

*Several posters should be more than willing to vouch for my age.

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 397809)

We keep the butter in a kitchen cabinet. No fridge.

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 397813)

Unless you have no AC, why would you keep butter in the fridge?

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 397814)

Don't ask me. Ask the many people who think it's strange that we keep it in the cabinet. They apparently think it will go bad if not refrigerated.

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 397806)

Uh-oh. I have been known to drink the day-after wine, cheap bastard that I am, because throwing it away is a sin. Is a trip to Costa Rica in the cards for me?

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 397788)

Next time you are in New Orleans, go to Cochon and try the barbecued oysters with house-cured bacon. You will change your mind about this statement with the first taste.

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 397817)

I don't eat anything that walked on 4 legs. This includes bacon.

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 397818)

So Soylent Green you're fine with?

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 397810)

How do you get hooked on that? I can understand going on runs when it's around a lot, but the morning after that stuff, the last goddamn thing on earth anyone wants to do is more of it. Or maybe that's just my weak constitution talking.

Originally Posted by dtb (Post 397815)

Butter in the refrigerator? DEEEEsgusting.

That's almost as bad as tomatoes in the refrigerator. Ick.

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 397817)

I don't eat anything that walked on 4 legs. This includes bacon.

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 397814)

Don't ask me. Ask the many people who think it's strange that we keep it in the cabinet. They apparently think it will go bad if not refrigerated.

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 397818)

So Soylent Green you're fine with?

Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 397822)

What if the cow or pig was parapalegic?

Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 397824)

And monkeys, spiders, and penguins.

Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 397824)

And monkeys, spiders, and penguins.

Originally Posted by John Phoenix (Post 397823)

At first, I thought that you were just screwing around - my family always kept butter in the fridge. So did every other family around whom I've spent any time or seen how they've kept their kitchen. You've changed my whole worldview.

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 397826)

Also, no.

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 397828)

So now your worldview is that rancid butter is a good thing?

Unless you are going thru a stick of butter in a day or two, you should keep it in the fridge. If you want it soft and spreadable, then take it out an hour before dinner, or put a smaller piece of it out.

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 397828)

So now your worldview is that rancid butter is a good thing?

Unless you are going thru a stick of butter in a day or two, you should keep it in the fridge. If you want it soft and spreadable, then take it out an hour before dinner, or put a smaller piece of it out.

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 397828)

So now your worldview is that rancid butter is a good thing?

Unless you are going thru a stick of butter in a day or two, you should keep it in the fridge. If you want it soft and spreadable, then take it out an hour before dinner, or put a smaller piece of it out.

Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 397832)

My rule: anything I buy refrigerated, stays refrigerated until I use it.

Originally Posted by John Phoenix (Post 397823)

You've changed my whole worldview.

Originally Posted by John Phoenix (Post 397831)

Other than Paula Deen, who goes through a stick of butter in a day or two? I'll keep it in the fridge.

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 397830)

I should probably mention that I eat quite a lot of butter. Probably more than the average person. But it appears Coltrane is a kindred spirit. Yay butter!

Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 397833)

2. Unless you're going through several tubes of sperm a day, keep it in the fridge. We just take out a little about an hour before dinner.

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 397830)

I should probably mention that I eat quite a lot of butter. Probably more than the average person. But it appears Coltrane is a kindred spirit. Yay butter!

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 397835)

I go through a stick of butter in a week or so. It's never gone rancid.

Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 397837)

Sperm I acquire and use at body temperature.