Bravissimo
 

Um, hel-lo.

• "Loves" chocolate.
• "Loves" amaretto.
• Cried. He fucking cried. I should stop here.
• Tighty-whiteys.
• Was a stripper.
• Worked as a fireman, but didn't stay and now is a part time limo driver.
• Hair gel.
• Studied at a cooking school.
• Dropped out of Navy SEAL school. Don't ask.
• Dressed like a cowboy, but lives in Jersey City.
• Asian girlfriend. Q.E.D.

As for the "was a stripper and still identified straight" analysis, which is admittedly persuasive, I can only say that he's from Virginia. His parents probably didn't even know he was a stripper until they saw this show, and they're probably under six feet of clay from the shock. Those good ol' boys take a long time to come out, but when they do, they can out-gay Harvey Fierstein.

That's not a saying is it? I have bad news and irrelevant news
 

He was far more diplomatic than that question deserved. How about "well, I assume she'll be as talentless a sportscaster as she was a tennis player, but she sure is bangable!"

Bravissimo
 

Wow. Though I remember watching that episode, I've not had the opportunity to make the degree of investment in detail that others apparently have. I've gotta get my TiVo set up.

Bravissimo
 

this is tangential, but the philosophy of the only male strippers I have known well (only two, but I still say it's somewhat representative) is, as explained to me one night: "well, mostly we like men, but if the girl is hot enough, we'll make an exception."

Which is pretty much my philosophy. Mostly I like myself, but if the guy is hot enough, and/or plays or has played hockey professionally, or, if I am desparate enough, breathes, then I'll make an exception.

Bravissimo
 

I doubt that you should assume that this means that your life is woefully lacking in meaning and substance.

In fact, . . . .

Bravissimo
 

In the future they'll probably do QE episodes on "Pop Up Video." {Carson extending brown-tipped finger toward Thom's eager, waiting mouth.} {Bloop.} "The sexual fetish of eating feces is called coprophagia." {Bloop.} "Only 15% of gay men regularly engage in anal-oral copulation." {Bloop.} "That compares to 15% of straight men." {Bloop.} {Movie still of Baby Ruth scene from "Caddyshack."}

That's not a saying is it? I have bad news and irrelevant news
 

I just loved the passive aggressive finesse of "I havent given it much thought". Thats like asking me if I think Bilmore would be a great law librarian. Yeah, we are both lawyers, but we pracitce in different areas. Law librarians do something related to lawyering but it isnt. why would I possibly remotely give a fuck? bc we both post a lot?

I read the whole story. WHen he has kids, they will not be given tennis rackets bc the whole lifestyle is too materialistic. its all aobut sunny skies and the ocean and surfing. I just heart him.

Bravissimo
 

he should take up kayaking???????

Even(love love love the dvr)Odds

Bravissimo
 

I discount the "loves" because it was product placement. He was just being a good little shill.

Do straight boys really not cry? Hm. I know a lot more gay guys than I thought, and a surprising number are married. Who woulda thunk??

RT or some other native Texan or other westerner may correct me on this, but his pre-makeover attire did not seem particularly "cowboy." Plus he's from Virginia, where they maybe have horse trainers or whatever. Or pig farmers, but I bet they wear smocks. Jeans + boots and possession of a cowboy hat do not a cowboy make.

The Asian gf thing I think has more to do with the fact that many Asian women have very little curviness going on (hips, boobs, etc.). If I am right about this, Armenian isn't Asian. You could never mistake the gf for a boy, even if he were anally fucking her from the back and all her hair was under a hat.

The jobs I put down to flaky. You seem to attach lots of significance to his not saying why he dropped out of the SEALS, and little or no significance to the fact that he didn't say why he quit any of his jobs.

If hair gel and tighty-whities alone are gayness . . . well, just ponder that one. Particularly if you assume that some people are 5-10 years behind in fashion.

Bravissimo
 

Good poll. But who knows what these guys names are? I can't remember them. Since I'm bored out of my frickin' mind, I'll post the before and afters of each.

Brian S.
http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...ode_101_03.jpg http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...de_101_504.jpg

Adam Z.
http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...ode_102_01.jpg http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...de_102_120.jpg

Tom K.
http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...ode_103_02.jpg http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...de_103_352.jpg

John B.
http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...ode_107_01.jpg http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...de_107_540.jpg

Vincent T.
http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...ode_106_04.jpg http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...de_106_802.jpg

Andrew L.
(No before shot that I could steal.) http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...de_105_400.jpg

John V.
http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...ode_108_03.jpg http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...de_108_291.jpg (Only shot they had that I could steal.)

George K.
http://www.bravotv.com/images/Queer_...ode_109_04.jpg (No after shot I could steal.)

I vote for John B. He really seemed to enjoy the experience and I think they did a good job with him. He seemed like a nice guy.

They should do an opposite show where the Fab 5 get made over into typical beer swilling heteros. That would be funny.

TM

Bravissimo
 

As it happens, I was making a snarky comment offboard about the flowcharts and Venn diagrams of QESG episodes that you must keep on the walls of your office.

I will now have to amend that comment, though only slightly.

Ho-wear at Work
 

WTF is with the white crocheted mini-mini-skirted halter dress (no lining, loose crochet, cheerful turquoise crochet on the nips and crotch), fire-engine-red ass-length hair extensions, and gold platforms for work?

I'm all for office casual. But this woman's idea of 'office' was clearly fleabitten-pullout-couch-in-her-pimp's-livingroom.

Ho-wear at Work
 

Wow. I know y'all think that people in the patch are tacky, but at least people who work in offices here know how not to be tacky, at least at work.

There are a couple of women here who I had previously thought of as tacky. I now realize that they are quite subdued, at least at work.

Ho-wear at Work
 

Yes, yes, you called me that yesterday. Please stop walking slowly past my office trying to assess my outfit today. I'm telling you IT ISN'T... NOT... TACKY!!

Ho-wear at Work
 

I think everyone here will acknowledge that you are mainly correct.

Hasn't The Family Research Council been trying to do that for the last 20 years?

Reality TV humor
 

Are there any reality TV shows in syndication? I always figured that the downfall of reality TV will be when the networks and studios realize that they can't sell the syndication rights because no one is going to watch Survivor reruns on FX. The big money in television always has been and always will be syndication.

Reality TV humor
 

Road Rules is in syndication. They play it on some no-name local station here. When I say no-name, think UPN (I have no idea whether or not that channel is UPN here). Maybe Real World is too, but I haven't seen it yet. Too bad because then you all would sit around with IT WASN'T... NOT... FUNNY! stuck in your heads.

If that 24/7 Reality Network takes off, I guess any shows from the genre will have a chance to earn some cash...

Host?!? Guest?!?
 

Well, you know what they say. Once you go black...

TM

Reality TV humor
 

I sorta assumed they meant Blind Date, Shipmates and the like. The ones that are on during the day with ads for PI lawyers, medical assistant correspondence schools, and early payouts on your lottery/PI settlement.

Bravissimo
 

Most of the real cowboys I know generally wear jeans, a tee shirt and whatever shoes are most comfortable. They also use ATVs or bribes of bales of hay to drive cattle.

Most of the "cowboys" at the rodeo wear Wranglers and button down shirts in bright garish colors. My understanding is that they own three sizes of Wranglers. Largest for practice, medium for when they're in the wring, and the smallest when they're out with the ladies.

That's not a saying is it? I have bad news and irrelevant news
 

Fuck. Outed.

Bravissimo
 

If you're not Chef, small jeans or pants just don't work.

TM

laser eye surgery
 

We must have talked about this at one time, but I can't remember. Has anyone had this done and if so, would they care to share their recommendations (or non-recommendation)?

(Yes I know this is not a substitute for medical advice and I am doing other independent research - just curious).

thanks.

Host?!? Guest?!?
 

G.O.

Maintenance poll.
 

so of these guys, which ones are the most likely to keep up the whole makeover thing?

From an SO to help standpoint, I think that the analysis is as follows:
John V. and John B. seem like they're going to have a lot of help from their SOs. George K. and Brian S. looked like they picked up SOs almost immediately afterwards because of the makeovers so they will have incentive. Tom K., I'm betting, and we know Andrew L., thanks to Thurgreed's inside info, have lost their SOs after the show. Adam Z's wife was as hopeless as he was so I'm not really seeing that one as keeping up. I missed the ep with Vincent T, so I have no comment there.

Decor wise, I think that Andrew L., Adam Z and Brian S will revert to the slobs they really are. George K, I don't really have a feel for since it sounded like his girlfriend cleaned out the place when she left him. The Armenian chick will make sure that house stays good. The LC1 chairs in John V's house will be in the next neighborhood garage sale. The others, I think will keep things up a little but it will be very, very messy.

Host?!? Guest?!?
 

No, because the only thing it's ever used for is marking his underwear.

Host?!? Guest?!?
 

Because it's a Sharpie.

Tax(or so I'm told)wonk

Oh Crap!!
 

I bet the RIAA is getting one big fucking laugh out of this:

The Dutch PC-Active magazine has done an extensive CD-R quality test. For the test the magazine has taken a look at the readability of discs, thirty different CD-R brands, that were recorded twenty months ago. The results were quite shocking as a lot of the discs simply couldn't be read anymore:

Roughly translated from Dutch:

The tests showed that a number of CD-Rs had become completely unreadable while others could only be read back partially. Data that was recorded 20 months ago had become unreadable. These included discs of well known and lesser known manufacturers.

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Bravissimo
 

Are all people who wear jeans and t-shirts cowboys? Hm. I have an avocation!

Oh Crap!!
 

This is (partially) why all my music goes onto a dedicated 120G HD at 320 bps.

(Of course, next test will show how all HD's crash within two years . . .)

Host?!? Guest?!?
 

The skidmarks in his shorts are not from his dick.

New Reality TV Trivia Question
 

How many former Real World and Road Rules contestants have died since their respective series aired? (first names, cause of deaths required)

Host?!? Guest?!?
 

Whose dick are they from?

Edit: gwamma

Host?!? Guest?!?
 

You're saying they came from your grandmother's?

Much More Fun Than Reality TV
 

Match the couple game.

And the pics are a scream.

Host?!? Guest?!?
 

We never knew what she was going to do with her dick.