Modern Day Cinematic Analogues? - POLL?
 

Interesting reasoning, and I would agree to a certain extent. Mel Gibson is probably a good choice. Russell Crowe is actually probably better (I'm thinking of his turn in L.A. Confidential here).

I'm always sort of befuddled by the sex appeal of Bogart. Maybe a woman could explain that to me. I think the male role requires a bit more in the way of world-weariness, and a hint of danger, which Bogart had in spades. As much as I hate Nicolas Cage, he has been quite good in some of his roles, and probably has the ability to carry a Bogart-like role off because of those two qualities.

As far as the female role, I think your reasoning is spot on. Wonk's choice of KS-T is very interesting, but as I was reading the posts, Paigow brought up a name that I really started wondering about in an entirely different context. What about Nicole Kidman?

spookyfish

There Is No Justice in Primetime
 

No competition from me for that guy. Blech.

There Is No Justice in Primetime
 

Its on showtime- I think its on friday night at 1130 but am never around to watch it. I caught it last night after Queer As Folk, another highly entertaining show nobody here discusses. I wouldnt normally have shotime, but i got one of those free weekend promotions that never stopped running and I got hooked. I also liked the Chris Isaak show, but didnt love it. WOnder if it will be back. And I saw ads for a new show about the life of women who love women. That should be good. The ad showed a clip of the gals talking about how thier galpal had "nipple confidence". WHatever that is.

Modern Day Cinematic Analogues? - POLL?
 

Wow. I've never met anyone who didn't like The Wiz (who had seen it). Is this one of your Michael Jackson things surfacing again?

TM

AACk!
 

They're both incredibly annoying. (And me, a good liberal, objecting to Tim and Susan!)

Too late for Tom and Roseanne alas. He had his tattoo of her face sandblasted off his chest already. Though he could get a new one since she's changed a bit since the stomach-stapling...

For Casablanca, I'll second Ralph Fiennes and go with Julianne Moore. Though lest we get too weepy-eyed over Ingrid Bergman's performance, remember that she said it always pissed her off when people liked her acting in that movie because she didn't receive any direction so she just waffled aimlessly.

Don't know who for the effete wuss husband Ilse runs off with in the end. Doubt you can find one in the US, American stars are too lunkheaded, even the good ones.

Family Business
 

Is the name of the show. Its about this nice jewish boy who looks a lot better on the show, who runs a porno video business with his yenta mother from queens and his cousin stevie who is hilarious in a howard stern sidekick kinda way. Apparently the guy is a famous porno guy- Seymore Butts (and I bet Shave can confirm this) and I get the feeling he specializes in Anal and Female ejaculation videos. Always good to have a specialty. THe name of the Savannah wannabe porn chick was Jessie Jane I think. CUte in a siliconed everything and dyed white hair kinda way. Didnt seem too sharp. But then I dont think Adam/Seymore will be taking her home to mom.

remaking old movies
 

I think you could find half a dozen decent actors with the acting ability of the old movie stars but that's not the point (at least to me). Those old movies were very much a function of the times in which they were made and that is part of their charm. I think something like Woman of the Year would go over like a lead balloon these days because times have changed. And the kiss in Notorious that was so subversive because it broke the codes in such a creative way could not possibly be duplicated these days.

Or maybe I just don't like change (the non-money kind).

Aye, Bee, See
 

I too have severe astigmatism in both eyes and tried soft contacts a few years ago. Previosly they were never an option because of the shape of my eyeball. They actually weight the little suckers so they always fit the football correctly. I liked them except that my tear consistency is all wrong for contacts of any sort. Too gloopy (official medical term).

There Is No Justice in Primetime
 

Yeah there is supposed to be a new show about lesbians coming out (pardon the pun) soon on Showtime. Queer as folk has been renewed so it is around for at least another season or two.

http://www.afterellen.com/TV/earthlings.html

The above is a link for the lesbian show.

Jennifer Beals is in it.

I have no idea what nipple confidence is.

Modern Day Cinematic Analogues? - POLL?
 

Wow! I never met anyone who liked The Wiz (who had seen it). Will wonders never cease.

Modern Day Cinematic Analogues? - POLL?
 

No, goddammit, it isn't. Would you please quit bringing him up when I'm trying to detox out of that? MJ was fine in it. I just thought Diana Ross was brutally miscast.

I hate remakes. Why don't these clowns just redo "The King and I" with Vin Diesel instead of Yul Brynner, and destroy the film industry once and for all?

Modern Day Cinematic Analogues? - POLL?
 

Ahhh Anne, welcome to the Fashion Board :)

Family Business
 

Who is that porno chick with Seymore Butts tattoed on the small of her back? Not cute, really into lesbian oral (giving, not getting, as she kept explaining in the pornos I've seen her in). I thought HER name was Seymore Butts? Although that would be very Steve-O of her to tattoo her own name on her back. I don't recognize that guy, if Seymore is the one you posted. There aren't many close-ups of men in pornos though, and, of course, my eyesight is bad.

Family Business
 

Nope, Seymore Butts is definitley that guy. He is not only a star, but a producer and director. Kinda like Barbra Streisand. I actually would like to find a DVD of his, but I cant do porn serached from the ole office and do not spend time on the computer at home these days. Sadly, and I mean really sadly, netflix doesnt carry porn. and when I rent porn, i like to be In and Out asap and dont want to be asking for seymore butts videos that arent anal.

Modern Day Cinematic Analogues? - POLL?
 

I loved it with Chow Yun-Fat.

remaking old movies
 

I don't think anyone would disagree that it's ill advised to remake this film. J-Lo and Ben will not get the kids interested in this story. Half of them wouldn't even be able to tell you where Morocco is let alone anything about the Vichy French or the Resistance.

That said, I was thinking more in terms of the personas of modern movie stars and how they compare to the old movie stars rather than even in terms of pure acting ability.

Sure, I think it would be easy to make the argument that there are far more talented people working in the movies today than in the 30's through 50's, but that the personalities are not as strong overall. I guess what I'm talking about is the difference between a movie actor and a movie star. One is more defintely based upon the power of personality than ability alone. I think the older stars have this all over most other movie actors working today.

spookyfish

Family Business
 

Check the IMdB .
They list more than 40 movies with Mr. Butts, though I doubt someone with "butts" in his name does more than anal.

Even(just guessing, though)Odds

Family Business
 

Didn't Bart crank call Moe once asking for Seymour Butts? (along with Hugh Jass and Amanda HugandKiss and others that I forget)

Modern Day Cinematic Analogues? - POLL?
 

I like your female role suggestions, especially Gwynneth (and it would get her out of the tendancy toward fluff of late). If they went with a Rick as old as Mel Gibson, Jodie Foster could pull it off. How about Cameron Diaz? She's a deceptively good actress who plays too many light parts because they pay better for women. And she's got a bit of quirkiness to her that could add to the part.

Rick is hard, though. Most of your suggestions would overact the part; Mel Gibson could have done a good job 10 to 15 years ago, but the Mel Gibson I've seen of late couldn't. The best honorable lout that's been played in the last ten years is George Clooney in Three Kings, though he's never acted as well in anything else (except maybe Brother, Wherefore Art Thou). Johnny Depp may be getting old enough (with some makeup) and is a hell of an actor with good emotional reserve.

How about a Will Smith/Charlene Theron reprise? They'd each have to step up a level, but I think they could each do it.

So I think there are a lot of actors/actresses who could play these parts, but who could direct it? It's a slow, steady carefully paced movie.

Family Business
 

That aren't anal? You gotta problem with "Squirting Anal Allstar 2" (these sequels are rarely as good as the originals, but still)?

Some of the titles in E/O's link are pretty good. I particularly like "knocking on heaven's back door" and "Behind the Sphinc Door". And I'm guessing a certain tech-savy regular has already seen "Dinner Party II: the Buffet."

Modern Day Cinematic Analogues? - POLL?
 

No remake of Casablanca has to be done. Its like trying to build a Dusenberg today. Why?

Call me a crank, but maybe if people would start making good flicks, people would write better scripts and we wouldn't waste time rehashing old flicks. Remember that remake of Psycho a few years back? Sal Mendes did it frame for frame exactly as Hitchcock did. Why?

Family Business
 

Yes. Although Hugh Jass happened to be at the bar at the time and took the call.

http://www.snpp.com/guides/moe_calls.html

Modern Day Cinematic Analogues? - POLL?
 

I have never liked ANY musical and unfortunately, I've seen a whole bunch (my folks wanted a flaming son, but no number of trips to Broadway would get me singing show tunes).

The worst is Phantom of the Opera. I cringed through the whole thing... but I gotta admit that original singer had a crazy voice.

Second worst is the Sound of Music. I'd rather read every Jane Austen book than watch it again.

Oh, and lets not forget The Song Remains the Same and Tommy. Simply unwatchable.

Aye, Bee, See
 

Just go get the Lasix and throw your contacts out. The neighsayers who claim you'lll go blind in five years are full of shit. My wife had it about three years ago and she can see like a fucking eagle now.

Aye, Bee, See
 

I'd do that too, but that shit makes me piss like a fucking racehorse.

spookyfish

Modern Day Cinematic Analogues? - POLL?
 

Its really too bad Vin Deisel was forced to do Swartznegger reject roles in flicks that look like extended Mountain Dew commercials. In Boiler Room he showed that he actually has some talent.

How bad of a case of fetal alcohol syndrome is required to find XXX entertaining?

Family Business
 

This reminds me of one of the funniest moments in my first year of law school -- when Mr. Jass got called on in Criminal Law. Priceless.

Oh, those madcaps memories.

There Is No Justice in Primetime
 

This cat doesn't look like a nice Jewish anything -- he looks like Screech and Joe Millionaire had a love child and it got Jerry Curls.

Shoot it before it breeds.

There Is No Justice in Primetime
 

I'll check it out. I used to watch Queer as folk regularly, and even bought the CD they put out after the first season of songs from the show (my friends and I still break out into Lets Get Soaking Wet occasionally), but it got to melodrama preachy for me so I quit watching. Is it getting better again? When I stopped watching (sometime in season 2), we had learned that all straight people are evil homophobes and all drug use will lead to addiction, death and destitution.

I did love the spoof show Gay as Blazes though. Oh and the sex scenes were often quite good.

n(my protagonist was definitely Brian)cs

Bright Young Things, or Life on the FB
 

This is how I picture the life of an FBer in New York.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/200...ideshow_1.html

Aye, Bee, See
 

I don't wear glasses and I didn't know Ralph Fiennes had a hairlip in Red Dragon. His character was badly defined and the whole Blake poetry obsession was a pathetic attempt to mimic the high-browness of the butterfly collector muderer in Silence of the Lambs.

Another sequel that shouldn't have been made, yet MILES better than Hannibal. Hannibal degraded into a comic horror farce like Serial Mom. I scanned the credits afterward to make sure Waters didn't have an exec producer credit. All existing copies of that movie should be burned.

Bright Young Things, or Life on the FB
 

The host is very metrosexual. What is that 40-something chick from AMC doing there? She totally kills the non-working, junior league vibe that was radiating out of most of the women.

n(perhaps Ricky Martin hooked hosty boy up with the ABC soap opera woman)cs

Aye, Bee, See
 

Sebastian, I have read your posts this afternoon, and I just cannot get a handle on how you feel about things.

Aye, Bee, See
 

Basically, he is radiating an aura of happiness and light and expressing his joyous love of all beings, things and creations.

f(forgot to log in)b

Bright Young Things, or Life on the FB
 

There is no apparent Ricky Martin connection, but a good guess. The accompanying article explains that Finola Hughes (can you say "one of these things is not like the other" )and her husband met Penske at some art event or the like (Finola's husband is an artist)-- but who knows, I've already forgotten. As for everyone else, they all met each other through other childhood friends from all the best schools in NY. The metrosexual, a former model, is the grandson of Maurice Villency (who was a Scot, who knew?) and now runs that furniture co.

remaking old movies
 

So what? Make them Kurdish freedom fighters running from the Baathists. I guess that'd be too dated by the time the movie came out. Um, underground Syrians? No, wait, set it in North Korea. Then you really could have Chow Yun Fat as Rick, and Ilse would be played by Lucy Liu. And instead of roulette, Rick could rig the Paigow poker table.

str(I should be working in Hollywood)8

Aye, Bee, See
 

My mom took thalidomide for five years as a sleep aid. Never hurt her a bit! Those people who criticize it are full of shit.

f(of course, I can never have children, but I'm sure it's not related*)b

*Note: hyperbole. I have no idea whether I can have children, and I don't think my mom ever took thalidomide.

Aye, Bee, See
 

Uh, and now that I'm looking at it, it was banned quite a bit before I was even a twinkle in my parents' eyes. Which makes me wonder what the cause of the birth defects of a girl I went to high school was -- I had always thought it was thalidomide, but she was way too young if it was banned in the 60s.

Aye, Bee, See
 

Why didn't you just ask her?

Aye, Bee, See
 

I thought about it, but I'm not a good candidate. I'm near-sighted in one eye and far-sighted in other in addition to my astigmatisms. It's actually quite convenient, when I don't have my glasses and can't see something, I just close the appropriate eye. I actually don't wear my glasses much. Due to my wacky prescription, when my vision is corrected, each eye sees a different size image which throws off the depth perception.