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A Hispanic co-worker of my wife's got assaulted at work yesterday by a guy who said he didn't have to be politically correct anymore.

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You got to move out to the ranch and run for Congress in two years. You may not win, but get 'em all registered and get some political stuff going.

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I was going on the basis of CBS morning news. If they got it wrong, I stand corrected. But they had footage of NOLA.

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The sad irony is that latino immigration is great for American overall and rural America in particular.

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Why is anyone still watching TV news?

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Unfortunately. Ton of screaming at Trump Tower though. If I do get there, I am going to have to start shoplifting something even if it is a stupid fucking solid tie.

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That's appalling. It's the first report I've heard of such behavior, but I'm certain there will be more. I would hope your wife's employer has fired the sombitch and made it clear to all employees that yes, they do still have to be politically correct.

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The truth isn't important.

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1. He's not in office yet.
2. Go look at the link Icky shared.

But if your point is limited to noting that we've not yet seen brownshirts in the streets, that's true. I don't know why we'd expect to when they won the election.

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Why does anyone believe the internet sources have any credibility?

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Because all sources are internet sources. That's where newspapers are published. That's where your TV news is getting the things they are telling you.

And, of course, you can use powerful tools like Twitter to get a vastly broader perspective (or narrower if you prefer) than you can ever get in 90 second bites designed for the lowest common denominator.

I was never much of a tv news guy anway, but watching local BLM protests on tv while simultaneously tracking them on twitter was eye-opening. The news basically "reported" whatever the statements the police put out (via twitter) as fact when we could all see in the video and elsewhere that it was BS.

And that's leaving aside how much of tv news is (1) sensationalistic, and (2) drivel.

ETA: Okay, I just had a pang of "what if Wonk is watching from a hospital bed," in which case I'm sorry and get well, please.

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It's a hospital, the sombitch was a patient's family member, and he suffered no consequences whatsoever.

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I know your latest move from the urbs requires some adjustment, but you seem to be bending over backwards in some weird effort to even things out between two different approaches to life based on geography. You don't have to turn those who are upset over the proposition that the President-elect seems to actively hate blacks and Hispanics into looters and thugs to prove your new countrified bona fides. You can be fair and open minded about the new place you live and the people who live there without shitting on the place you left.

TM

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I don't know Ohio or other places, but I know my little corner of upstate NY.

If you look at my friends from growing up, everyone in the top of the class has left; everyone. Of the people I know who are still there, one ran into pretty severe drug problems and needed care from their family; one has been in and out of jail; two had family farms; one had a family construction company; one a family store; one stayed to take care of their mother and sister; one left but moved back to take care of their father, and that's it. Three others who stuck around are dead (drugs, car crash, most recent one was cancer). And a bunch of the rest I've lost touch with, there may be a couple more. I last caught up with a bunch of them when I went back for my father's funeral two years ago.

What I can't figure out is why other people have moved into town to fill up the spaces left by those who left. I mean, other than the family who opened the Indian restaurant there, which is really, really, really welcome.

The area went for Trump 48% to 47%. I'm assuming that little group of remnants from my class is pretty representative, though.

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These do not sounds like people who need jobs, jobs, jobs.

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I'd bet the ones with family businesses are the ones who went Trump first.

I forgot one other one, too, I can't believe it.

One stuck around because he took over the family's funeral parlor. He was where I got most of my info, since he took care of Dad and let the rest know about the funeral.

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For Wonk, in case they don't get to it on tv.

Lede:

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He lives in one of the most evolved places I've been.

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How about doing a precinct-by-precinct postmortem on who voted, who didn't, why, and what it would take to get them back into the fold?

Did everybody who saw Ty's wife's co-worker get assaulted report the incident and stick around to give a statement?

"Peaceable" still means "I'd rather fuck things up than fix them."

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Great! Hopefully no one else who lives there is calling people who march to express their distaste, "looters."

TM

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I walked by Union Square last night. Big protest. But nothing violent.

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Wait, are you trashing on the idea of protest here?

I mean, we've got an amendment for that.

There was a great little incident here in Boston that the press reported on, it was really pretty cute. There was a protest in front of the state house, as there is almost every day, and the crowd got big enough to spill out into the street, so the cops were directing traffic around. Some big aggressive tourist dude came up to a cop and got all agitated and said, "Aren't you going to arrest these people", and the cop responded, "Sir, we're in the seat of liberty, we try to give people some space to speak."

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This makes exactly zero sense. None. Not one sense.

TM

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No time to express anger in the form of protest. We need to figure out how to fix this tonight! Everyone take out your protractors and let's get to work.

Was it Billy Ray Valentine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxAiLuPHnHs

TM

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Earlier this week I was in NYC. Running along the Hudson I keep having Paigow-like hate at the tourists walking 4 abreast, which is just not safe, giving the bike riders.

Today I flew to DC (I think they're putting up the inaugural platform, too early, right, or is it Trump making shit happen). Anyway, running on the Mall I was missing those NYC tourists. Anyone with enough sense to find the Hudson trail is at least not totally oblivious. These DC tourists, that's some bad bad tourists. Does the first amendment extend to how much sidewalk you decide to take up?

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Build tourist lanes. Make the tourists pay.

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I'm trying to point out that you can curse the darkness or light a candle. I think that Trump is now our President because nature abhors a vacuum. The Democrats failed to put up a winnable candidate. And by that, I don't mean someone who should have beaten Trump. Your dog should have beaten Trump.

You have done more than anyone I know personally to change the way I think about race and my relation to it. The Democratic Party needs to spend the next four years doing exactly what you do every day. They should have been doing that more aggressively for the last eight years. Not just a few writers. Not just a few athletes. If we are going to keep this from becoming the kind of America where people like Trump are electable, we need to be more proactive than reactive, and we need to do it on the micro level.

We need to find smart, honest, and gutsy people and we need to get them to run for office. We need to get our message out instead of attacking the right's. I worked phone banks for a County Commissioner and a State Rep, both Democrats. I challenged every person I talked to about what exactly it was they figured Trump was going to do to create jobs. I taught soldiers getting ready to muster out how to go into business and create jobs, and part of my teaching was focused on the interdependence of each of them as business people to make sure they supported each other and their communities. But I didn't do enough.

Of course, I'm just a simple country disabled tax lawyer. I don't have the strength to go marching down Bay Street chanting slogans at people.

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Many of you know this man, and those who do have little doubt that he and his dog were docile innocents. http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2016/11...protest-photo/

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I'm going to start watching the Christmas feel-good movies early this year.

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I do not know that man, but a quick glance at his twitter feeds has me fairly sure you are being sarcastic.

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I don't think you're wrong. I imagine that it isn't an easy task given the locations of so many of these voters and their tendency to view anyone talking about anything political that doesn't parrot Breitbart as the enemy.

TM

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An anecdote from Schwartz. Well, you've convinced me.

TM

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Sebby should like this.

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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...omy-is-weaker/

ETA: We can google this to a draw until our phones die. The truth is there are a number of factors at work. Trump voters were a varied, ahem, basket.

I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
 

How sad is it that my first thought upon reading your response was wondering if you* ever got your bed**?

*I think it was you. Right?

**Or was their a choice of furniture? Am I just making shit up in my memory?

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But he never lost his head, even when he won that iron bed... (originally written about Bumpkin-at-law, or whatever that handle was, but I think you're right, there were more than one winner)

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Lot of ink to suggest the D party find a middle ground and not disavow Clintonism entirely for Warrenism.

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Thanks for this list. While it is incomplete, I'm sure, it is a good start. (When you say in no particular order, I'd point out that the first group on the list have to be first in ranking too.) There is plenty of blame to go around and while I'm trying to move on with positivity for the future, it is important to reflect a bit on what got us here.

Can we go back to posting on the Fashion Board now? I think my brief stay on this board is coming to a close.

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Thanks! I was wondering about that. Monthly? And was there a student loan payoff thing, too?

(Uh, it may not seem it, but I do know the difference between there, their, and they're. Honest.)

Everybody knows the dice are loaded/Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed...
 

Leonard Cohen had passed.