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There's an outfit here that does the farmer's market circuit that makes amazing ice cream. Hands down the most awesome is Blueberry Lavender, but they also do a kick ass Mexican chocolate.

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oooh, we have lavender, and we have blueberry, but they were going into separate ice creams. I will mention this.

He has his own incredible chocolate variety, which involves first making a chocolate mouse, then a cardamon cream, and swirling them together in the ice cream.

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In that very limited circumstance which you describe, which covers a tiny pool of people, it can be covered through a line item hidden in a budget that no one will notice.

Standing up at a debate and saying “I believe in free healthcare for illegals“ is a far different thing. The picture painted there is one of billions upon billions being spent.

Healthcare for illegals is an issue the Democrats should run from at every turn in this campaign. There is no way to frame that argument that allows Ds to overcome the GOP talking point, “you want giveaways for illegals!”

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I think it was Lou Reed who said, “trust none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.” He died too soon.

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If Lou Reed was talking about the comments on internet posts, he was half-right.

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Because super lib forums like say Daily Kos, or DU, or Lawtalkers, have admins that delete every semi-R post the onliest thing to do is to create fake Joe Biden pages and post away.

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And yet Twitter, a glorified comment database, remains the tail that wags so many politicians.

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1. Beer (not gf)
2. Honey lavender
3. Cinnamon
4. Miso cherry


Oddfellows ice cream has some good flavors. Don’t do that stuff really any more.

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Even in jest, Daily Kos and DU can’t be called “liberal.” They are “extreme progressive/left wing authoritarian.” Just like Townhall and Red State are “extreme tea party/right wing authoritarian.”

Let’s not lose sight of the fact that the extremes have no interest in preserving freedom as do real liberals and conservatives. They just want to Control It All.

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So today’s memes about shopping Melanie into pix is because what?

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Stalin, Kim jun, Ty it is possible they they think the censorship is for good.

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I’m Calabrese. I need spaghetti. Coltrane seems like Lithuanian? I’m sure they have dumplings?

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You mean Ivanka? It's making fun of the video of her trying to talk to world leaders at the G20 and them all reacting as though she doesn't belong there (which she does not).

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This did not happen.

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Sorry, I hope you enjoy the 4th wherever you are.

I have not been to Calabria, but have been to Sicily, and it's pretty much the same thing, right?

I have to say, the pasta in Sicily was mediocre, the pizza absolutely horrendous, and the breads downright rubbery - I was still doing gluten during my trip there. On the other hand, the fish was incredible, the fresh herbs plentiful and delicious, and the Gelato and Granita to die for.

Far be it from me to tell you your heritage, but could there be another side of southern Italy's food worth exploring?

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Thanks - we've done cinnamon, I don't think it's on the agenda this weak, Miso Cherry could be a possibility, we have two kinds of Cherry ready for the ice cream.

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She clearly was out of her depth and didn't know what she was doing, but, let's be honest here, if any of us got to eliminate one person in the US delegation to the G20 it wouldn't have been her.

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My mom's family is from Abruzzo.

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Actually I had really good food in Sicily, but I was only in Taormina and Siracusa. In Calabria I was only in my grandparents home town- Caulonia- dirt poor and half abandoned, the local wine is so vile my cousins poured Sprite in it to drink. I bought wine instead. The pizza was basic Naples style, very good.

We are poor people though so not much meat- most pastas were with seafood. Caulonia is on the Ionian Sea so seafood is basically free. The best dish though was a pasta using CANNED tuna fish. Fucking Calabrese are the hard heads of the world- they live on the sea, a sea that has tuna, but they open a can? but it was amazing. Also lots of vegetables. Spicy cicitti (garbanzo beans) over pasta.

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I suppose that you think that makes you better than me? This is America, all you Northerners with your "Calabrians are hard heads, and stupid," that doesn't fly in the US of A.

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Not at all. Abruzzo is/was super poor too.

I've been to Italy twice. The food in Florence was really good. It was average in Rome. And in the Amalfi Coast it was probably the best I've ever had (mostly seafood).

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you didn't try to visit family?

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Hank, you don't ask that. If he's not visiting family, his family probably didn't pay all their debts before they left.

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Isn't about putting Ivanka into pictures with foreign leaders because she was trying to insert herself into a conversation with May, Macron & Lagarde?

eta: More explanation here.

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Is there a white male athlete with whom Trump has mixed it up on Twitter? I'm not thinking of one.

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Right. This happened (from the transcript):

GUTHRIE:

“—A lot of you have been talking tonight about these government healthcare plans that you proposed in one form or another. This is a show of hands question. And hold them up for a moment so people can see. Raise your hand if—if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants.

(APPLAUSE)”

Everyone raised their hands.

They then explained it wasn’t free. But we all know it’s going to be almost entirely subsidized.

I don’t know enough about the plans to have a strong opinion, but I do know thus is Dumb Politics. (The optics of everyone raising hands is terrible. Creates a resonant photo. Never do that. Ever.)

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So you processed the discussion but repeated the one-liner lie (uh, sorry, Fox talking point)? Why?

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I don’t like him, and I’m the most athletic of you lot.

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What isn’t accurate? I didn’t watch, saw the picture, could make the Trump ad myself. What was it actually about?

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Because it’s not a lie. It’ll be almost entirely subsidized.

But also, I repeated what I saw in the NYPost, which makes fun of both Trump and Democrats.

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So you repeated it while knowing it is not true?*

There are 20 candidates with 20 different plans in different states of completion - why are you assuming it would be heavily subsidized.

A lot of immigrants here are working very hard and making respectable money.

* well, technically not true just because its false. but, hey, you have some thoughts on how even though the facts are wrong it kind of reflects .... I don't know, false with a good excuse?

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I didn't either. Here's what the Post did: It skipped over the canard offered by Democrats regarding how health insurance for illegals would be funded.

We all know it's going to be minimally - I mean in the tiniest imaginable amounts - funded by actual illegal immigrants. It's going to be funded by the govt.

So while it might appear the Post is lying, actually, the Post is calling out the candidates for bullshitting about what they know is not going to happen. Good on the Post there. I usually hate the Post, but here, it's Occam's Razor applied-with-a-beer-bottle-over-the-head hybrid approach worked nicely.

Anyway, as to the substance, this whole debate is dumb. Illegals aren't going to pay for care because most can't do so. So we should set aside a few billion to cover ER care for them. Anyone with an objection to that is a ghoul. We cannot turn people away from acute care. Putting aside that it's barred in most regards, no one wants to live in a country like that. It's vile.

BUT, no politician on the Right or Left can say what I just said because on the Left, putting aside a few billion for ER care for illegals is inadequate. On the Right, it's a "giveaway!" So we're doomed to see bullshitters raise their hands and bullshit about their plans on health care for illegals for the next year and a half.

If this were a cycle where Rs were running for the nomination against a D incumbent, you'd see exactly the same type of bullshit. Rs would get up there and say they'd make illegals pay money for health coverage they know illegals do not have. Or they'd talk about how they'd pass bills stopping illegals from getting access to ERs, which they know is unlawful.

The Post is the perfect sort of shitrag to cover this dumb shit.

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Bullshit. A small fraction of illegals are making money adequate to pay real money for real health insurance. And you know that's bullshit.

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You live in a conservative dreamscape where only white, rich citizens pay taxes. And there is no waking you.

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I was asking about his target selection, not his critics.

Come to San Jose and we can go for a run together.

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whifferooskiIm the fucking man

We would be together for a quarter mile tops. Want to run with someone contact Penske, or Thurgreed.

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I’m sure lots of undocumented have some means. But single payer isn’t ACA. So when you say we will give the undocumented HC, I don’t get how their funds matter. There is a big pool of jobs that do not collect or pay taxes. The employers are bad there, but undocumented do not pay taxes in many jobs (my kids worked jobs like that not hating on immigrants, but the jobs they have are likely mostly under radar).

Mix on top the current memes of gazillions of This people held at the border. Who do you think the average American sees as the ones getting the free HC? Bad optics the other night. Admit it.

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Translation of Ty Bullshit: “I’ve got no bullets.”

Look, I’ve probably been closer to paying for med care for an undocumented than your sheltered pompous ass. And math. Demographics don’t work for you here, and you’re full of shit and know it.

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He’s not going to let it go.

You can’t even be magnanimous here. I’m actually in favor of subsidizing care for the undocumented (it’s what we already do, so just make it official already). Ty has to win on proofs.

Has to be right about everything, even when it’s impossible for him to be so. Like arguing with a spouse.

Ever won an argument with a significant other? How’d that impact your love life?

Lawyers are such tools. Including me. Why am I here? My desire to debate is mindless.

We’re on a road to nowhere, and I’ve had a really nice ticket. This place is like a history of the strangest form of depression any human has had. I should be drunk and naked somewhere. So should you!

Why? Why think beyond gain/necessity? It does No Good. None at all. What do I do with it? Nothing. It just idles the engine when one is better served turning off the engine.

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Figures on this are all over the place for obvious reasons, but Vox seems to think 11 mil undocumented people pay @ $20bil In combined fed and state taxes. This calculates to to @ $2k per person.

These folks are making enough to pay into a health insurance system? You might be a ghoul here. They can’t afford it. We’re better off subsidizing them and allowing them to use every penny of disposable income in the broader economy rather than funneling a disproportionate amount to health care.