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purse junkie 09-11-2003 11:59 AM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
It remains that simple if you invite only your friends who like such stuff. The finicky eaters get invites only to the cookouts, where I can slap a chicken breats or tempeh puck on the grill for 'em.

What the hell is tempeh?

I've only recently got this "tofu" thing down, please don't confuse me with any new health food crap.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-11-2003 12:03 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
What the hell is tempeh?

http://www.tempeh.info/

lord knows. All I know is that it's sufficiently non-toxic that I don't worry about cross-contamination when I put it on the grill with genuine, honest-to-God, amurican red meat.

Replaced_Texan 09-11-2003 12:04 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Yes, the Jewish people do love their bacon, don't they?

Now here is a situation I was in during law school. Married couple friends, gourmet cooks, invited my bf and I over for a little dinner. they made some kind of cajun soup thing (gumbo?) that was pork based with hunks of pork in it. The guy who made it said to me "I know you are a vegetarian so I picked out the pork". This was really bad bc since it was a pig based food, it still was something I could not touch. He made it, and then he went to the effort to try and help me- not aware of his ignoreance to the vegetarian way o' life. I did not eat the soup but thanked him. While my bf didnt say anything, I think he thinks I should have eaten it. And our friendship was never quite the same.

But hell if I am gonna eat pork base when I havent touched pigs in upwards of twenty years.
Pork gumbo? Why go through the trouble of making gumbo if it isn't seafood? My momma makes the best seafood gumbo ever.

Anyhow, I think we all probably have stories of meals we've had to suffer through that somehow contained our least favorite foods or foods that we couldn't eat for some reason (kosher, vegeterian, don't eat vegetibles). We politely pushed the food around, declined seconds, and drank a little more wine than the rest of the people at the dinner party. Sometimes there will be something that we can eat, but sometimes there won't be. The host/ess certainly has some duties to ensure that if a guest cannot eat something that there are alternatives, but sometimes alternatives simply aren't available for whatever reason. I remember a multi course meal that my mother served at an informal dinner party about a year ago. Every single thing that she served was on one of our friend's cannot/will not eat list. By the end of the night, we were all laughing about it, as yet another plate came out and there was another reason that he couldn't eat it. Eventually the cheese plate came out again so he could have at least something.

Especially with smaller parties, sometimes the meals prepared just don't work with all the guests, and sometimes it's impossible to know in advance what a guest can or can't eat.

robustpuppy 09-11-2003 12:06 PM

Tofu blech
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
I've only recently got this "tofu" thing down, please don't confuse me with any new health food crap.
While we're on this subject, I think it's morally wrong to shape tofu into little balls that look exactly like fresh mozzarella, put them in a dish where fresh mozzarella would be a perfect ingredient, and then put that unlabeled dish in your overpriced buffet. Do you hear me, Sizzling Express?

The fact that I was eating the tofu while reading the posts with obstetric news you don't need to know made it that much worse.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-11-2003 12:06 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
.... The idea that they are coming there to eat your food rather than enjoy your company is inherently insulting. ...


....But if I offer my hospitality to someone, I am justifiably insulted if the hospitality I do (or can) offer is deemed to be inadequate and my guests feel they need to inform me what I must do to please them. To denigrate or abuse another's hospitality is close to a capital crime among manners violations.
(i) I am under no illusions that my personality is better than my food. I play to my strengths; if they are there for the food, I can accept that.

(ii) Yes, it is inhospital to refuse any hospitality, so we resort to bitching and moaning on anonymous chat boards rather than suffering in silence. But oh for the days when a little cooking wasn't considered onerous and all the aspects of entertaining, including the food, was an art.

bilmore 09-11-2003 12:07 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
http://www.tempeh.info/

lord knows. All I know is that it's sufficiently non-toxic that I don't worry about cross-contamination when I put it on the grill with genuine, honest-to-God, amurican red meat.
I love this line:

"But tempeh is now rapidly becoming more popular all over the world as people look for ways to increase their intake of soybeans."

(Thank god - I've been searching and searching for ways to increase my intake of soybeans! Now I can finally move on to my search for additional kelp byproducts!)

Bad_Rich_Chic 09-11-2003 12:14 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
Entertaining was much simpler when everyone liked steak au poivre and scalloped potatoes or at least just shut up and ate it.
There were always vegetarians, and they never consented to eat the steak. They just shut up about it. Now, however, with the mistaken shift of focus to food (perhaps driven by everyone deciding adopting "gourmet" tastes and cooking pretensions), the vegetarians (etc.) feel untoward pressure to eat it, and therefore have retaliated by issuing menu demands to ensure they can. This is not an improved state of affairs.

Paigow, you behaved perfectly with the gumbo. You graciously thanked your host for his extra efforts to accomodate you, and you didn't eat something that you felt you shouldn't. Brava.

On a totally different note, I have rediscovered my cache of fountain pens. Yea fountain pens.

ThrashersFan 09-11-2003 12:15 PM

Tofu blech
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
While we're on this subject, I think it's morally wrong to shape tofu into little balls that look exactly like fresh mozzarella, put them in a dish where fresh mozzarella would be a perfect ingredient, and then put that unlabeled dish in your overpriced buffet. Do you hear me, Sizzling Express?

The fact that I was eating the tofu while reading the posts with obstetric news you don't need to know made it that much worse.
Oh ewwwww. This is why I smell/poke/cut open everything that I am unsure of. Kinda like seeing a nice pasta salad and saying "no meat in there, right?", getting a "no" response, putting it on your plate and taking a sniff only to discover crab or some other sea creature. WTF? That is meat, people. And no, I don't care if it is "imitation" crab because not only do I not eat meat but I don't crave or even like the taste of it so I don't want a substitute.

edited to say that I am a good guest and restaurant patron. I always find something to eat and I don't complain. I do get a bit annoyed when people try to be too "helpful" about my not eating meat -- I have been doing this for over two decades so I think I know how to manage. I also don't like being lied to about what is in food, especially when someone is trying to steer me from my wicked "no meat" ways by sneaking something in.

evenodds 09-11-2003 12:15 PM

Dinner Parties
 
I threw my last formal dinner five or six years ago when three minutes before I was to seat my 8 guests (after having cleared the menu with everyone in advance since I was cooking beef tenderloin), one of the girlfriends decided she no longer ate red meat and asked if I cook some chicken for her. Not when she arrived for cocktails, of course, but as I was about to seat everyone for dinner.

Of course, I accomodated her, but since then, I have people over for cocktails.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-11-2003 12:20 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
What the hell is tempeh?

I've only recently got this "tofu" thing down, please don't confuse me with any new health food crap.
I reccomend skipping over Tempeh and going straight to Seiten, getting ahead of the curve.

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 09-11-2003 12:21 PM

satellite radio
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Bob
I am so going to look in to signing up for satellite radio. How much is it?
Looking into it myself. From what I understand the little receiver that you can move from place to place (home, car, office) is about $200 and you may need some adapters for it. The service itself is about $10-12 a month. I'm seriously thinking about getting it, and my only question was whether you can pick it up in these concrete and steel edifices we call office buildings...

If you can, I'm buying the service for sure.

paigowprincess 09-11-2003 12:21 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Pork gumbo? Why go through the trouble of making gumbo if it isn't seafood? My momma makes the best seafood gumbo ever.

Anyhow, I think we all probably have stories of meals we've had to suffer through that somehow contained our least favorite foods or foods that we couldn't eat for some reason (kosher, vegeterian, don't eat vegetibles). We politely pushed the food around, declined seconds, and drank a little more wine than the rest of the people at the dinner party. Sometimes there will be something that we can eat, but sometimes there won't be. The host/ess certainly has some duties to ensure that if a guest cannot eat something that there are alternatives, but sometimes alternatives simply aren't available for whatever reason. I remember a multi course meal that my mother served at an informal dinner party about a year ago. Every single thing that she served was on one of our friend's cannot/will not eat list. By the end of the night, we were all laughing about it, as yet another plate came out and there was another reason that he couldn't eat it. Eventually the cheese plate came out again so he could have at least something.

Especially with smaller parties, sometimes the meals prepared just don't work with all the guests, and sometimes it's impossible to know in advance what a guest can or can't eat.
I dunno if it was gumbo which is why I put a question mark. It was southern porky soupy food. And the issue wasnt whether there was anything for me to eat- there was side stuff, no other entree. the problem was that I felt bad after he made his ill informed effort but I wasnt gonna put pig meat into my body.

and PEPCO is fucked. 45 minute hold times and then rude bitches answer the phone and put you back on hold never to return. fucking utility monopolies. Its enough to make me go all Bilmore and shun civilization and electricity.

Shape Shifter 09-11-2003 12:23 PM

Tofu blech
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
And no, I don't care if it is "imitation" crab because not only do I not eat meat but I don't crave or even like the taste of it so I don't want a substitute.
I noticed the butcher counter at the supermarket sells imitation crab meat. What the hell is it if its not crab? Is imitation crab meat a term of art? An ingrediant unto itself like "artificial color"? Why get fake meat from a butcher?

Bad_Rich_Chic 09-11-2003 12:24 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
It remains that simple if you invite only your friends who like such stuff. The finicky eaters get invites only to the cookouts, where I can slap a chicken breats or tempeh puck on the grill for 'em.

What's the fun in cooking elaborately for people who don't really enjoy food because they're concerned as to whether it fits into their dietetic regimen?

So, no, Lance Armstrong won't be invited to dinner.
See, this is exactly what I would hope to avoid - people issue food demands, and therefore are cut off from hospitality by fed up hosts.

Hosts are already an endangered species after years of abuse and neglect; they should really be better protected and shouldn't have their available range further limited.

BR(even Lance should be able to show up, ooh and aah over the food, and sneak into the bathroom when it is time to eat whatever bizzare micro-meals he brought with him that he is supposed to consume every 30 minutes, or whatever it is he does)C

evenodds 09-11-2003 12:24 PM

Tofu blech
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I noticed the butcher counter at the supermarket sells imitation crab meat. What the hell is it if its not crab? Is imitation crab meat a term of art? An ingrediant unto itself like "artificial color"? Why get fake meat from a butcher?
It's fish, not crab.

Replaced_Texan 09-11-2003 12:25 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I dunno if it was gumbo which is why I put a question mark. It was southern porky soupy food. And the issue wasnt whether there was anything for me to eat- there was side stuff, no other entree. the problem was that I felt bad after he made his ill informed effort but I wasnt gonna put pig meat into my body.
I'd be very careful at any but the most Americanized Mexican restaurants then, since lard is the primary ingredient in most Mexican dishes, including some vegeterian sounding dishes like bean burritos, where the beans and the tortilla are held together with lard.

Shape Shifter 09-11-2003 12:28 PM

Tofu blech
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
It's fish, not crab.
Why not call it fish? Is "crabfish" taken?

leagleaze 09-11-2003 12:28 PM

Having exhausted fat chix and kids/no kids . .
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Are colleges teaching fundamental principles any more?

free music is fair because compact discs are overpriced.


CNN Article on downloading
I liked the law student who gave her name and said she would keep doing it because cds are over priced.

notcasesensitive 09-11-2003 12:30 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I'd be very careful at any but the most Americanized Mexican restaurants then, since lard is the primary ingredient in most Mexican dishes, including some vegeterian sounding dishes like bean burritos, where the beans and the tortilla are held together with lard.
Putting refried beans aside, in Dallas pinto beans are often prepared using diced up ham or otherwise incorporating pork, while black beans are often the only vegetarian option. RT, do people prepare black beans with lard, etc. down there?

robustpuppy 09-11-2003 12:30 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I'd be very careful at any but the most Americanized Mexican restaurants then, since lard is the primary ingredient in most Mexican dishes, including some vegeterian sounding dishes like bean burritos, where the beans and the tortilla are held together with lard.
But lard is good for you because it has no transfat!

Seriously, Baja Fresh uses no lard, so their veggie meals should be veggie safe, if not heart healthier (probably use hydrogenated vegetable oils in place of the lard).

And on a sort of related note, Pa. Ag Wants Butter In Schools; Calls for Butter's Return to School Lunches, Saying It Was 'Needlessly Removed

P.S. Lard might actually have some transfat. It was a joke.

taxwonk 09-11-2003 12:30 PM

Tofu blech
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I noticed the butcher counter at the supermarket sells imitation crab meat. What the hell is it if its not crab? Is imitation crab meat a term of art? An ingrediant unto itself like "artificial color"? Why get fake meat from a butcher?
Imitation crab, or surimi, is a blend of crab meat and pollack or some other firm, relatively mild whitefish, like halibut or haddock. I'll tolerate it in "crab salad" at a buffet or something like that. However, when I'm cooking myself, I always use the real stuff. Yeah, it's a lot more expensive, but not outrageous, and a little goes a long way.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-11-2003 12:31 PM

Tofu blech
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I noticed the butcher counter at the supermarket sells imitation crab meat. What the hell is it if its not crab? Is imitation crab meat a term of art? An ingrediant unto itself like "artificial color"? Why get fake meat from a butcher?
Yes: Surimi. Not at surimi.info, but here

It's minced fish, processed, and pressed into cakes, with some artificial color. Then used in California rolls all over the US. Unless you spring for the "real" crab meat version (which you should)

notcasesensitive 09-11-2003 12:31 PM

Tofu rulz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Why not call it fish? Is "crabfish" taken?
It is technically referred to as Krab. Way catchier than crabfish. Learn it, love it.


RP'ed to change re: line. I heart tofu (when prepared correctly).

Shape Shifter 09-11-2003 12:32 PM

Having exhausted fat chix and kids/no kids . .
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
I liked the law student who gave her name and said she would keep doing it because cds are over priced.
I liked this one. Thanks, bro!

"I'm very worried about my brother at Johns Hopkins University. He's very involved in file-sharing and would have to get a lawyer if he gets into trouble," said one pre-law student at NYU.

Replaced_Texan 09-11-2003 12:35 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Putting refried beans aside, in Dallas pinto beans are often prepared using diced up ham or otherwise incorporating pork, while black beans are often the only vegetarian option. RT, do people prepare black beans with lard, etc. down there?
I love charro beans (the ham or pork soupy beans). My momma also makes the best charro beans ever.

I'm not sure about black beans here, since the lard thing doesn't bother me that much so I never bother to ask. I'm going to guess that it probably depends on the restaruant and whether or not they care about vegetarians and how they prepare their beans.

notcasesensitive 09-11-2003 12:39 PM

Food and allergies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I love charro beans (the ham or pork soupy beans). My momma also makes the best charro beans ever.

I'm not sure about black beans here, since the lard thing doesn't bother me that much so I never bother to ask. I'm going to guess that it probably depends on the restaruant and whether or not they care about vegetarians and how they prepare their beans.
Ditto on the charro beans. I usually get those instead of black beans, despite the higher fat content. This reminds me, time for lunch...

bold_n_brazen 09-11-2003 12:51 PM

satellite radio
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
Looking into it myself. From what I understand the little receiver that you can move from place to place (home, car, office) is about $200 and you may need some adapters for it. The service itself is about $10-12 a month. I'm seriously thinking about getting it, and my only question was whether you can pick it up in these concrete and steel edifices we call office buildings...

If you can, I'm buying the service for sure.
To date, the only place my receiver does not work is a tiny patch of driveway on the bottom level of the parking garage at my office. Works fine in the office. Works fine in the car. Works fine at home.

I love that if I feel like listening to Show Tunes then BY GOD let there be show tunes!

Bn'(Can't remember the last time I felt like listening to show tunes)B

bold_n_brazen 09-11-2003 12:52 PM

You know....
 
I need a new avatar...

I need an avatar PERIOD.

Any suggestions?

Bn'B

leagleaze 09-11-2003 12:55 PM

You know....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I need a new avatar...

I need an avatar PERIOD.

Any suggestions?

Bn'B
How about something like this mom?

http://www.wackypackages.org/realproductsscans/bold.jpg

Shape Shifter 09-11-2003 12:59 PM

You know....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I need a new avatar...

Left column, bottom picture.

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/V...696/Page5.html

(spree: live animals)

You may be sorry to learn that you have died. But not before you won the Tampa Speed Classic.

http://www.networksplus.net/nga/ads/archive/feb98.htm

(spree: dead animal story, no picture)

ThrashersFan 09-11-2003 01:01 PM

You know....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I need a new avatar...

I need an avatar PERIOD.

Any suggestions?

Bn'B
I Googled "Bold and Brazen" and came up with this from Morna's BiPagan Page. It has something to do with a poem about a witch titled Bold and Brazen. Leagl will have to right-size it for an avatar but I think it is kinda cool and might suit you.


http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev...ze/goddess.gif

edit: why didn't it work?
Here is the address. www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/5430/bold.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/5430/goddess.gif


Not that I don't think a red x doesn't work for B&B, but I figured you might like me to fix it for you. It didn't work because the site prevents linking directly to photos like that. - L

bilmore 09-11-2003 01:03 PM

You know....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I Googled "Bold and Brazen" and came up with this from Morna's BiPagan Page. It has something to do with a poem about a witch titled Bold and Brazen. Leagl will have to right-size it for an avatar but I think it is kinda cool and might suit you.


http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/5430/goddess.gif
Geocities doesn't allow links.

evenodds 09-11-2003 01:06 PM

You know....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I need a new avatar...

I need an avatar PERIOD.

Any suggestions?

Bn'B
I was thinking a box of raisinettes
http://www.ordercandy.com/images/can...5-AA_thumb.jpg

robustpuppy 09-11-2003 01:07 PM

You know....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Pic of Bold Detergent box
I love "Cleans Even Tough-to-Clean-Modern-Fabrics."

I picture marketing types gathered round a conference room table working to come up with a euphemism for polyester.

leagleaze 09-11-2003 01:14 PM

Three lovely choices, all resized for your use, if you should so choose.

http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev...ze/goddess.gif

http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev...leaze/bold.jpg

http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev...leaze/rais.jpg

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 09-11-2003 01:24 PM

Speaking of new avatars...
 
I stumbled across a new one for MR:

http://www.ilovebacon.com/091103/flavor.jpg

Admins, feel free to resize this if I fuck up the page view for everybody.

Bad_Rich_Chic 09-11-2003 01:26 PM

Cabin Fever interview
 
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/int/...9/11/eli_roth/

Really amusing interview with the Cabin Fever director about why horror movies are great and why so many of them suck ass.

I am psyched to see this movie, incidentally.

[Salon - get a day pass.]

dtb 09-11-2003 01:29 PM

A Tip for Thurgreed
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Today I am so cautious that I will not even ask an obviously pregnant woman when her due date is unless she specifically informs me that she is pregnant.
I had a bit of fun with a client (not really my client, but my client's client...) when I was pregnant with #1 (so of course, I was wearing my regular clothing into my 6th month). So I was around 6 months, was wearing my regular pants, but had on a maternity shirt -- but it wasn't a totally obvious maternity shirt.

Anyway, at some drafting session, this guy asks, "When are you due?" And I, completely straight-faced (maybe a hint of a quizzical look thrown in), responded, "Due for what?"

The poor guy -- all color drained out of his face. I quickly reassured him, but I think I almost gave him a heart attack. Poor thing.

Sidd Finch 09-11-2003 01:36 PM

A Tip for Thurgreed
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
Anyway, at some drafting session, this guy asks, "When are you due?" And I, completely straight-faced (maybe a hint of a quizzical look thrown in), responded, "Due for what?"

The poor guy -- all color drained out of his face. I quickly reassured him, but I think I almost gave him a heart attack. Poor thing.
Hence the rule: Unless you actually see a baby coming out of someone's body, do not ask if she is pregnant.

dtb 09-11-2003 01:38 PM

A Tip for Thurgreed
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I went to school with two sets of tripplets and four sets of identical twins I can think of offhand, to my knowledge none drug-induced

Oddly, your post reminded me of the rash assumptions I make whenever I see double (or tripple!) strollers with multiple children clearly old enough to have mastered walking sitting in them.
What are tripplets? A bunch of kids named Tripp? Or did you mean triplets? (I can't figure out if this is a spelling error, or a capitalization error...).

Identical twins cannot be drug induced. (Though how you know they were identical, I don't know -- only a medical test can confirm it.) Identical twins are a "freak of nature" -- it's not hereditary, just a freak "accident". Fraternal twins, however, are hereditary (not sure if that's the right word, but what I mean is they "run in families" -- i.e., it's an inherited trait). All drug-induced multiples are fraternal. Which makes the woman I used to work with (who has two sets of identical twins -- medically tested and confirmed to be identical) all the more remarkable!

And about the big-ass strollers, just because a child is able to walk without falling down, does not mean he or she is able to walk long distances as easily as an adult. I'm thinking 2 & 3 y.o.s probably fit this description fairly well.

Even my "big" boy (5 y.o.) sometimes gets to ride on the little "scooter" thingy (kind of a mini skateboard) we can attach to the back of the stroller (takes up no more width on the sidewalk -- he's just between the person pushing and the stroller itself) if we're going for a really long walk.


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