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Not Bob 08-09-2005 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I know nothing about you IRL,* like whether you're a single mom, but you'd best believe I have "been there" in whatever pitiful, secondary sense men can participate in the delivery, care for and rearing of their own children. Either you have my deserved sympathy for going this alone, or you're the one being a pompous jackass about who has valid input to offer on parenting issues. Someone should tell Dr. Sears that he's full of shit, too.
Atticus, my boy, I think that everyone will agree that I am mostly correct* when I say that the grief you got was because it seemed like maybe you were being just a wee bit condescending and judgmental in your posts about pain control during labor. And, based solely on my experience with Mrs. Not Bob, I think that some women tend to get annoyed with men who say anything about childbirth (other than, "wow, I don't know how chicks do it").

I still love you, though. :love:

*Circle-jerk alert: This is a phrase coined by sebastian dangerfield, and which has been adopted as shorthand by many posters for a sweeping generalization.

ltl/fb 08-09-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
And no, I do not think proceeding assuming it will get easier is necessarily the best route. In fact, I think that is a recipe for stress. Rather, I found it much easier just to go day-by-day, committed to it, but not feeling some imaginary competition out there to see if I could "make it" and be a tough girl. Mind games about parenting issues are bullshit.
I find it ironic (hahahaha) that the guy who says he freaked out totally thinking he was a failure because his kid wasn't in the upper percentiles of weight, or whatever, doesn't see how saying "for 90% of women it's eventually as easy as falling off a log" might possibly create a feeling that if you are in the 10%, you are somehow a failure.

robustpuppy 08-09-2005 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I find it ironic (hahahaha) that the guy who says he freaked out totally thinking he was a failure because his kid wasn't in the upper percentiles of weight, or whatever, doesn't see how saying "for 90% of women it's eventually as easy as falling off a log" might possibly create a feeling that if you are in the 10%, you are somehow a failure.
Oh, give poor Atticus a break. I took his 90% comment to mean "don't give up because for most women it gets really easy even if at the beginning it seems it never will." And I never took his pain relief during labor posts to be as polluted with superiority as many of the rest of you did; I simply saw it as general philosophizing about the apparent cultural desire to pretend that all pain and sacrifice relating to parenting can be reduced to a barely perceptible level.

ltl/fb 08-09-2005 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Oh, give poor Atticus a break. I took his 90% comment to mean "don't give up because for most women it gets really easy even if at the beginning it seems it never will." And I never took his pain relief during labor posts to be as polluted with superiority as many of the rest of you did; I simply saw it as general philosophizing about the apparent cultural desire to pretend that all pain and sacrifice relating to parenting can be reduced to a barely perceptible level.
You are no fun when you are pregnant.

Or, your newest crush is Atticus.

robustpuppy 08-09-2005 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
You are no fun when you are pregnant.

Or, your newest crush is Atticus.
I'm working on my nurturing instinct, bitch.

ltl/fb 08-09-2005 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
I'm working on my nurturing instinct, bitch.
WHATever. And, I sometimes think str8s posts are yours now, because of the baby avatar. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.

Penske_Account 08-09-2005 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by nononono
I never said you had no right to a perspective on it. But I am telling you, if you have never had a baby bite your nipples
To be clear I highly doubt atticus has lactacted, but that shouldn't disqualify his experiences with having babies bite his nipples. Not every country has such repressive age of consent laws and who are we to judge.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-09-2005 03:48 PM

School is for Dummies
 
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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
So, today was the Brazenette's first day of pre-school. (Yes, it is August 8. Yes, the public schools here began classes today. Why do you ask? Oh, because it's insane? Well, yes, I agree.)

Both mommy and daughter cried this morning. But daughter has agreed to return to pre-school on Wednesday. Mommy will endeavour not to cry on Wednesday. Daughter makes no such promise.
Pre-school was rocky for L'il Ty for at least a few months, but he loves it now. But they tried moving him to another class yesterday morning, the class he'll go to f/t in another month, and he apparently spent much of the morning sobbing. He doesn't take well to change, that boy.

Miss Crabtree 08-09-2005 03:51 PM

School is for Dummies
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
He doesn't take well to change, that boy.
We have some kids who are natural conservatives in every class. On the plus side, they usually don't draw outside the lines.

nononono 08-09-2005 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
To be clear I highly doubt atticus has lactacted, but that shouldn't disqualify his experiences with having babies bite his nipples. Not every country has such repressive age of consent laws and who are we to judge.
You're right; I've been unfair.

Flinty_McFlint 08-09-2005 04:00 PM

Just so you know
 
My oldest child (>2 yrs) is in the single digits for weight percentile, and the 90's for height; my youngest (4 mos) is about 50/50. Based on this information, I have slated the oldest to become a supermodel, and then a host for a TV show on the E! network or reality show; the youngest will be pushed to become a professional golfer/tennis player, and/or graduate from a top ten university, and top five graduate school.

I am the best parent ever. You all can give up now and accept defeat.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-09-2005 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
I'm working on my nurturing instinct, bitch.
I'm pretty sure this is a line from a Tarantino film, but which one? As usual, RP is too allusive for me.

Flinty_McFlint 08-09-2005 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm pretty sure this is a line from a Tarantino film, but which one? As usual, RP is too allusive for me.
Dude, you can't miss her, she's the size of a house.

bill killer 08-09-2005 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Atticus, my boy, I think that everyone will agree that I am mostly correct*

*Circle-jerk alert: This is a phrase coined by sebastian dangerfield, and which has been adopted as shorthand by many posters for a sweeping generalization.
Actually, wasn't that a quote from the political intern asshat in the letter he wrote to his girlfriend explaining why he was breaking up with her?

notcasesensitive 08-09-2005 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
WHATever. And, I sometimes think str8s posts are yours now, because of the baby avatar. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.
2 (as to the str8 avatar thing). As to the rest of this conversation, I could care less. Actually I couldn't care less, but somehow our society has shortened that sentiment to "I could care less". Less probably doesn't care either, but I wouldn't presume to speak for him.

I told my ever-judgmental sister that I never plan to breast-feed should I ever have any children (such a big if that it is laughable) and then got speeches each time I saw her about how bad it is for babies not to be breastfed, yadda yadda yadda (making one wonder how all the thousands of babies born during the 70s ever survived, but I digress). I have since stopped spending time with my sister and I have no interest in ever discussing breast-feeding with anyone ever again.

Or, to be more direct, I could care less. :mad: (this mad smiley thing popped up on its own somehow (I'm not sure what the code for it is but I must have inadvertantly hit it), but I'll let it stand because it has gumption)

notcasesensitive 08-09-2005 04:24 PM

Just so you know
 
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Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
My oldest child (>2 yrs) is in the single digits for weight percentile, and the 90's for height; my youngest (4 mos) is about 50/50. Based on this information, I have slated the oldest to become a supermodel, and then a host for a TV show on the E! network or reality show; the youngest will be pushed to become a professional golfer/tennis player, and/or graduate from a top ten university, and top five graduate school.

I am the best parent ever. You all can give up now and accept defeat.
Are you breastfeeding them? How are your nipples doing?

Not Bob 08-09-2005 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by bill killer
Actually, wasn't that a quote from the political intern asshat in the letter he wrote to his girlfriend explaining why he was breaking up with her?
Really? I wonder whether he stole if from sebby, or vice versa.

(Oh, and a belated welcome back!)

Penske_Account 08-09-2005 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
2 (as to the str8 avatar thing). As to the rest of this conversation, I could care less. Actually I couldn't care less, but somehow our society has shortened that sentiment to "I could care less".

Its wrong. Just plain wrong.

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive


I told my ever-judgmental sister that I never plan to breast-feed should I ever have any children

You are greedy. Don't just think about the children...breastfeeding is not just for kids! What about Mr. Man or whoever the future flavour of the month is?

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive

(such a big if that it is laughable)

LOL!

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
about how bad it is for babies not to be breastfed, yadda yadda yadda (making one wonder how all the thousands of babies born during the 70s ever survived, but I digress).

(not to be judgmental, I am not but fyi) My oldest would have died during infancy without breastfeeding but we didn't know that until many months after the fact. FWIW. YMMV, it was a relatively rare genetic disorder (although there is another 'former" poster who has a relative with the same condition).

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I have no interest in ever discussing breast-feeding with anyone ever again.
This line says no, but the post itself says yes, yes, yes!

Flinty_McFlint 08-09-2005 04:34 PM

Just so you know
 
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Are you breastfeeding them? How are your nipples doing?
Breastfeeding is for losers. I feed them raw meat and steroids. My nipples miss you, but they are doing fine considering.

notcasesensitive 08-09-2005 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Its wrong. Just plain wrong.




You are greedy. Don't just think about the children...breastfeeding is not just for kids! What about Mr. Man or whoever the future flavour of the month is?



LOL!



(not to be judgmental, I am not but fyi) My oldest would have died during infancy without breastfeeding but we didn't know that until many months after the fact. FWIW. YMMV, it was a relatively rare genetic disorder (although there is another 'former" poster who has a relative with the same condition).



This line says no, but the post itself says yes, yes, yes!
No. :mad:

ltl/fb 08-09-2005 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
No. :mad:
You seem very into the mad smiley thing (that has gumption) today. Is your bio clock ticking? FWIW, kids would be a great excuse to watch documentaries on teddy bear factories.

Penske_Account 08-09-2005 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
No. :rolleyes:
No what? I am sensing a mixed vibe here.

ltl/fb 08-09-2005 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
:love:[/SIZE]
This thingy has never, ever conveyed "love" to me. It conveys "tribal custom of greeting by touching tongues." oslt.

notcasesensitive 08-09-2005 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
You seem very into the mad smiley thing (that has gumption) today. Is your bio clock ticking? FWIW, kids would be a great excuse to watch documentaries on teddy bear factories.
This is not your best material. :rolleyes:

ltl/fb 08-09-2005 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
This is not your best material. :rolleyes:
What percentile is it in?

ETA why are we on the lwk board?

Atticus Grinch 08-09-2005 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
And I never took his pain relief during labor posts to be as polluted with superiority as many of the rest of you did; I simply saw it as general philosophizing about the apparent cultural desire to pretend that all pain and sacrifice relating to parenting can be reduced to a barely perceptible level.
In other words, (Bilmore - Not Bob + Sebastian Dangerfield) + (mmmm24601 ÷ 2) = Atticus. Sounds about right.

Not Bob 08-09-2005 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
oslt.
Or So Less Tells (me)? Or So I Think?

Shape Shifter 08-09-2005 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
In other words, (Bilmore - Not Bob + Sebastian Dangerfield) + (mmmm24601 ÷ 2) = Atticus. Sounds about right.
I want to know why, in the limited amount of time you have for the board these days, you expend all your efforts discussing childbirth and breastfeeding. Not that there is anything even remotely wrong about those things.

Cletus Miller 08-09-2005 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Or So Less Tells (me)? Or So I Think?
or something like that

Not Bob 08-09-2005 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Cletus Miller
or something like that
Doh! Thanks.

Atticus Grinch 08-09-2005 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I want to know why, in the limited amount of time you have for the board these days, you expend all your efforts discussing childbirth and breastfeeding. Not that there is anything even remotely wrong about those things.
I was also posting about arming animal control officers until ninthyeardepraved and his Teutonic Texan Triggerwoman shut the Spanky Board down.

Gattigap 08-09-2005 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I was also posting about arming animal control officers until ninthyeardepraved and his Teutonic Texan Triggerwoman shut the Spanky Board down.
This, together with recent news events, is all part of the grand plan to get you back to the Board You Were Born For.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/BIOS/cpnovak.gif

How much more inspiration do you need, man? Does Bush need to go public with shocking news of his alien baby to inspire you to post there again?

ltl/fb 08-09-2005 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
This, together with recent news events, is all part of the grand plan to get you back to the Board You Were Born For.

How much more inspiration do you need, man? Does Bush need to go public with shocking news of his alien baby to inspire you to post there again?
Where does "Teutonic" enter into RT's persona?

Flinty_McFlint 08-09-2005 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Where does "Teutonic" enter into RT's persona?
He means large breastises. You know, like that german opera chick. You can borrow my Atticus to English dictionary if you like. You'd be surprised how many synomyms there are for breastises.

Replaced_Texan 08-09-2005 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I was also posting about arming animal control officers until ninthyeardepraved and his Teutonic Texan Triggerwoman shut the Spanky Board down.
Teutonic? That's Aristocratic Mexican to you, bub.

Hank Chinaski 08-09-2005 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I want to know why, in the limited amount of time you have for the board these days, you expend all your efforts discussing childbirth and breastfeeding. Not that there is anything even remotely wrong about those things.
no no no go back and edit. He respects you. If you're gonna ask him a question ask him this
"Why would you ask people who raised someone with all your problems and conflicts how to raise a kid to be relatively free of issues."

Atticus Grinch 08-10-2005 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
no no no go back and edit. He respects you. If you're gonna ask him a question ask him this
"Why would you ask people who raised someone with all your problems and conflicts how to raise a kid to be relatively free of issues."
I let your wife raise my kids. Duh.

Hank Chinaski 08-10-2005 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I let your wife raise my kids. Duh.
It's clear YOU take something to numb your pain.

TexLex 08-10-2005 01:15 PM

More stuff about boobies
 
My son (20mos) attempted to use the breastpump* last night, but couldn't get it to stick to his little baby nipples. If only I had taken a photo to use as some sort of blackmail-type collateral for the teenage years....

-TL

*This has to be the least sexy invention in the history of the world.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 08-10-2005 01:17 PM

More stuff about boobies
 
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Originally posted by TexLex
My son (20mos) attempted to use the breastpump* last night, but couldn't get it to stick to his little baby nipples. If only I had taken a photo to use as some sort of blackmail-type collateral for the teenage years....

-TL

*This has to be the least sexy invention in the history of the world.
Of course, when he hits his teenage years, he'll be trying to use it someplace else.


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