Re: Whoredom
 

Of course, that's only necessary if you're unlucky enough to have a dick that doesn't have healing powers.

TM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

Only In LA Dept.:

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

Human stupidity is limited to LA? Or backyard hot tubs?

I don't think so on either count.

Re: Whoredom
 

Don't you mean Wolverine-like healing powers?

But, I have a question . . .

Oral is not really in my repertoire (oral to completion, that is), so why is it such a big deal to guys? Is it a power thing?

Re: Whoredom
 

No. That's anal.

It's simple. Oral feels good. And we don't have to do anything (except maybe click the remote) while getting it.

Re: Whoredom
 

I think he meant the power to heal others who come in contact with it.

This statement is internally inconsistent. You mean choose to refuse to finish the job. As you apparently have the skills, it's in your repertoire, you just choose not to use it. To reference Dan Savage, not very GGG of you.

Personally, I don't think it is a power thing. It feels good. Variety is good. Presumably you also enjoy multiple kinds of stimulation, perhaps even multiple ways of reaching climax.

Re: Whoredom
 

When o' when will Tom Ammiano back legalizing and taxing prostitution? It might not raise the alleged $1.3 billion the proposed pot tax would generate, but it would still be a win-win situation for all involved.

Re: Whoredom
 

I cannot speak for other men, but there is also an element of (even if she is faking it) "she enjoys actively sucking, tickling, licking, caressing, whatever, my dick" whereas vaginal sex is less personal to me. She could be lying there asleep or thinking about the crochet she is knitting.

Re: Whoredom
 

there is the line in clerks where the the guy tells his girlfriend "it's easy to get a guy off, but we have to work at getting a woman off."

sex done right by a guy means he is doing lots of stuff, it's mission control kind of. a woman might be as busy, or might not, but a guy has to be. a BJ? it's just relax and enjoy, the focus being on the guy alone.

Re: Whoredom
 

No. That's not what I meant (although I feel sorry for those who don't have that too).

1. How is this possible? You suck and don't suck all at the same time. You need to take another, hard look at why any of your previous relationships didn't work out.

2. A good blow job is awesome. It's not about power (unless you're on your knees, in which case it partially is). It's more about the mouth and tongue action, which really feels great. And the visual. I love the visual. If you're just talking about blow jobs to completion, then ask yourself if would like to be interrupted right before you have an orgasm. Also, swallowing makes us think you really like to suck a dick, which makes the whole experience that much better.

TM

Re: Whoredom
 

I assumed that completion did not necessarily imply swallowing, as I don't think the latter is necessary (although it is convenient and mess-free from a male perspective).

Blow Jobs
 

I have nothing to ass except Hoorrray!!! for the return of evenodds, who has seriously upped the sex-related (and therefore interesting) content of this board. Three Cheers!!!

Also, Lady gaga is back, but I will persevere.

Re: Blow Jobs
 

You just stuck "I will survive" in my head. So yeah, thanks for that.

Re: Blow Jobs
 

All we hear is Lady gaga, lady goo goo, lady gaga
All we hear is Lady gaga, lady blah blah
lady-o what's new?
Lady, someone still loves you!

Re: Blow Jobs
 

Somehow, this is disturbing in context.

Re: Whoredom
 

It feels good. Why do women always think that there's some power-trip thing going on?

Does the guy who offered you the $500 know that he won't get what he paid for?

Re: Whoredom
 

Personally, I think it's all just a renegotiating ploy. e/o is pretty crafty.

Re: Whoredom
 

I also do not get why, short of pain or significant discomfort, people rule things out of their sex life. Sure, you might want to limit thing you don't really enjoy, but shouldn't you also be factoring in your partners happiness?

In other words, what woman in her right mind* would put up with a guy who said oral is not really in my repertoire (oral to completion, that is), so why is it such a big deal to woman?

*A woman who is not interested in her own sexual pleasure is by definition not in her right mind.

Kayden Kross' Blowjob 'Tips'
 

EO, memorize these tips and you can raise your rates. The woman who wrote this clearly knows exactly what she's doing (except for the moving-the-skin-with-the-hand part--don't do that).

> BJs are fun for everyone
> Let’s talk about blow jobs. Of the many many things porn
> botches and distorts I think blow jobs take the hardest hit.
> Blow jobs and boobs. If you watch any award winning porn
> you’re going to see this: 3-5 minutes of gagging, spitting
> and choking on a dick that was hard before she got it out of
> his pants. She’ll slap her face with it. She’ll jerk it
> hard and fast. She’ll stop and go. She’ll baby talk it.
> You probably won’t see his face but it’s there—the bad
> blowjob grimace.
> .. ..
> Blow jobs are an art form. They require time and patience
> and love. While they are great for foreplay I think
> they’ve been typecast. They’re not only foreplay. They
> are a means unto themselves, and ladies, if you’re really
> doing them right you probably love them as much as he does.
> A good blow job can be better than sex. It is not a coupon
> that you issue on birthdays and holidays or when you fuck
> up. It is not a chore. It is an exercise in meditation. I
> zone out when I give them. I go to my happy place where the
> penis and I exist in perfect harmony. The very thought of
> giving one makes me salivate. I don’t believe in lube I
> believe in blow jobs.
> .. ..
> A member of my website emailed me his theory on blow job
> cohorts. He thinks teenagers of the 70’s love to give
> them, teenagers of the 80’s find them degrading, and
> teenagers of the 90’s came back around again. Apparently
> there are blow job generational gaps. I have not tested this
> theory, and being a teenager of the last decade and
> generally ignorant of sexual culture outside of my bubble I
> was unaware that blowjobs had ever been out of favor since
> the advent of birth control. If you like them, read on, if
> not, there are many more bloggers out there who are far less
> concerned with the business of BJs.
> .. ..
> Here’s why boys like vaginas: they’re soft and wet and
> warm and lined with tight muscles. The entire reason
> blow jobs are so wonderful for boys is they mimic this
> habitat. But vaginas don’t have teeth. Teeth are used for
> grinding flesh and roughage. They maim and kill. So keep
> your fucking teeth out of it, which means don’t dive bomb
> his poor dick with your throat. I don’t care how cool it
> looks in porn. It’s very hard to get perfect aim at high
> speed. If you feel you must deep throat for the bragging
> rights, then depress your tongue over the top of your lower
> front teeth and breath out slowly as you go down on it. It
> feels like it pops into place. But do it slowly and avoid
> dragging sharp objects across it at all costs. If you’re
> not sure whether you’ve done it, look for tears. They are
> a sure sign of throat blockage.
> .. ..
> Vaginas don’t hit either, so don’t smack it against
> things. When you see guys in porn pull out and slap it
> around they’re not doing it because it feels good.
> They’re doing it so they don’t cum. That means it feels
> not good. And I understand dirty talk, I do, but you know
> what you’re not doing when you’re going cross-eyed
> staring at his dick and telling him all the dirty things
> you’re gonna do to him? You’re not sucking his dick. So
> shut up and suck it. Save the dirty talk for times when your
> mouth is not occupied or at least pick up sign language.
> .. ..
> Pay attention to where contact is actually being made.
> While avoiding teeth you may end up going too far the other
> direction and not giving enough stimulation. He can feel the
> whole length of a vagina, he can’t always feel the whole
> length of a mouth. Make it count. The head and immediately
> underneath it are the bulls eye, then from there take in as
> much as you can without sacrificing quality for quantity.
> Shafts are cool but that’s why you have hands so use them.
> If you use both then use them in the same way, and use them
> with spit. Live by these words: the wetter the better. The
> best wetness comes from the back of the mouth. It’s longer
> lasting like Doublemint gum. Do not make a sock toy out of
> his penis. That is an absolute no-no. Massage it, stroke it,
> love it. Don’t hurt or desensitize it. The meaner you get
> the harder it’s going to be for him to cum. Blow jobs are
> only fun in the absence of lockjaw.
> .. ..
> Now here is why blow jobs rule: vaginas don’t have
> tongues. Tongues can go any direction they want. And
> they’re soft and wet and strong. They are a dick’s best
> friend. Don’t ruin that relationship. Don’t flick at it
> with the tip. Put as much tongue surface area as you can on
> him in a steady circular motion and it will keep you
> salivating and him happy. It will also keep your lower teeth
> covered. Remember you’re trying to one-up a vagina here.
> It just so happens that when you’re facing his belly
> button with his dick in your mouth it lands right where it
> should on your tongue, with the underside of the head
> nestled safely in it’s care. That’s because nature
> intended for us to give head constantly.
> .. ..
> Hands are dry, bony, and the least-soft body part you can
> use on him unless he’s into feet. They are not a lost
> cause though. He seems to get by with his own with no
> problem on a daily basis. Grip it just enough that the skin
> can be used as a sleeve, so that it moves with the hand and
> not against it. It’s especially nice when you can use the
> foreskin or what’s left of it when gliding over the head.
> A harmonious blow job puts your lips in near or direct
> contact with the top of the fist you’ve made around his
> shaft, and everything moves together. The hand covers what
> the mouth couldn’t get to and the mouth keeps everything
> lubricated. It’s a fine example of teamwork. The slow
> twisting motion that everyone seems to talk about is not
> urban legend. Use it.
> .. ..
> Let’s talk about all the little tricks you’ve heard of.
> Humming. Blowing. Nibbling. Ice. Playing with balls.
> Feathers. Vibrators. Toys in buttholes. Whatever. Some are
> cool. Some are not. The problem with these tricks is the
> blow jobber ends up focusing too much on the tricks and not
> enough on the penis at hand. Only do it if it doesn’t take
> away from the quality job you were already doing. I like to
> stroke lightly from the back of the balls towards the shaft
> with just my fingertips. I use my left hand when I do it and
> my tongue and right hand never miss a beat. Blow jobs in the
> wild don’t need bells and whistles though. Don’t let
> Cosmo confuse you.
> .. ..
> And now the most important thing of all: rhythm. It
> doesn’t matter how perfectly you do everything else if you
> don’t do it with an even tempo. Every time you stop and go
> you’re starting over on building his orgasm. If you pay
> attention you can feel him respond to the speed he likes.
> Faster does not always equal better. You’re not in a race,
> and if you were you’d lose because too fast will only
> desensitize him. He’ll get harder as he gets closer,
> he’ll get softer if you’re doing something wrong. Adjust
> accordingly. Just because I’m stressing an even tempo
> doesn’t mean you shouldn’t speed up or slow down as
> required. It means transition slowly. Balls also move. A
> lot. Balls are the window to his soul. Pay attention to
> where they are and what they’re doing and you’ll get a
> feel for how to tell when he’s close. Some guys have poker
> balls though, in which case focus on whatever
> changes—breathing, flexing etc… Once he starts to
> cum, do not change what you’re doing, whatever that may
> be. If you hit a rut, stop, give it a rest for a few
> minutes, and start anew. It’s a blow job blank slate. In
> my experience, once you pick up the right motion, the
> guesswork is gone. You will become one with the penis and it
> pulls you into an altered state and suddenly you’ll feel
> like an extension of it and when he cums you might have a
> feel-good moment too. At least I do. And that’s why I love
> them.
> .. ..
> Disclaimer: The second you feel like you’ve mastered it
> you’ll probably meet the guys who likes teeth and vice
> grips and throws a wrench in the whole process. I can’t
> control for the outliers.

http://www.drunkenstepfather.com/ind...ne-of-the-day/ (site is generally nsfw)

TM

Re: Whoredom
 

Not in your repetoire (to completion) for getting or giving?

If giving, the beginning part must be pretty good for the ex to offer $500 knowing he might be left to finish on his own.

Re: Whoredom
 

I met a woman who said she stopped with the BJs because a past boyfriend decided that was all he wanted; he never wanted the sex otherwise.

Of course, that reason made me really really want to see (feel) why.

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

I realllly have nothing to ass. I'm just happy we're talking about blowjobs.

But I will address Sidd's point. Leaving aside the fact that women are not a monolithic group ("why do women always.."), I will say that, although I do not like to analyze sex and think it should just be fun, oftentimes playing with power can be part of that fun. I like it. If part of the reason a guy likes his dick to be sucked is because it makes him feel powerful, why shouldn't he? And if I like to be held down and fucked hard because it makes me feel submissive and I get off on that, why shouldn't I? My point is that power and sex can be inter-related and is, for some people.

Re: Whoredom
 

A woman whose SO gave shitty head.

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

Is anyone else having trouble accessing gmail?

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

Less talky talky, more sucky sucky. Jeez, women, amirite guys?

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

Yes, at least through my computer browser. No iPhone issue. And no Google cal. issue. I had assumed it was a work issue, where I have recently had problems accessing pretty much everything not on the computer's hard drive.

Re: Whoredom
 

What kind of women have you been fucking? Vaginal sex impersonal? I have the opposite opinion. Save a couple women who gave gave amazing blow jobs, that's always been impersonal, whereas vaginal sex seems intensely personal.

Anal sex is utterly impersonal. That's more sport/novelty than sex.

Re: Whoredom
 

Time to get a new SO.

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

Less techy techy, more licky licky. Jeez, men, amirite women?

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

You all suck and gwinky will be disappointed.

We were talking about blowjobs. Focus, would you?

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

Now that Ty asks, yes.

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

Clearly you missed the joke (or the snipe, whichever), probably because it wasn't very good.

E/O asked "why is it [oral] such a big deal to guys? Is it a power thing?" As if guys were all the same, and my reason for liking oral would be the same as TMs or Less's. So I responded in kind, by talking about "women" as a group that all think in the same way about things.

Personally, and I think this should be obvious to everyone, different men like oral for different reasons -- and those reasons change based on the giver, the moment, the position, and a number of other things.

Did you notice that E/O was talking about men as a monolithic group?




Yep. Agree with you completely. Power games are fun.

It's going to be very difficult for me to do any more work today, as I am now thinking about restraints and such.

Re: Whoredom
 

I'm pretty sure we've discussed this before, but I would have sex with someone before I'd put his dick in my mouth or let him put his face in my crotch.

I wouldn't say that sex is impersonal but oral sex is way more intimate and makes me feel way more vulnerable (the receiving thereof anyway).

Re: Whoredom
 

Speak for yourself, snake-boy. I eat pussy like a pro.

Re: Kayden Kross' Blowjob 'Tips'
 

I disagree with your caveat, but agree that she provides an excellent overview, although it could have focused a bit more on build up and anticipation, which is where certain of the "tricks" she mentioned can be most effective.

Re: Whoredom
 

The title of this thread seems somehow totally appropriate.

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

Agreed. But I think the prime reason men like blow jobs is being overlooked. Holding women down and fucking them hard (you all like that, monolithically, from time to time) is work. Try doing 100 high speed push ups and see how your shoulders feel. Blow jobs involve zero work. They're the best of all possible worlds - sitting ass, doing nothing and getting off at the same time. Masturbation involves more effort.

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

E/O sucks. Gwinky swallows.

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 

Yes. Apparently they twittered (tweeted? I don't know) that they are "working on fixing it." Whatever that means.

Re: Whoredom
 

In my experience more women seem to be really into blowjobs than men, especially to completion. So, yeah, I would definitely say it's a power thing.