RIP
 

Johnny Cash

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...n_mu/obit_cash

John Ritter

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...d=496&ncid=716

Tofu blech
 

If you'd read my posts (that you purport to ignore, but clearly do read) more carefully, you'd note I never said I wear or own a fur coat--just that I don't object to them. I wear a fantastic mink hat of my grandmother's (which you still may hate, but who gives?).

I don't mind your multiple personalities, or the mindblowing fact that you think someone's feelings are going to actually be hurt by being on your ignore list, which you constantly "threaten" people with. But at least learn to fucking read you idiot.

First Mr. Furley, Now This?
 

I'm sorry he passed away, but John Ritter is near the top of my Most Annoying Celebrity list (along with Alf and the Osmonds).TC is on my Most Annoying Sit-Coms Ever list (along with Too Close for Comfort).

There won't be a TC reunion, but there will be a "I Love TC" on VH1 complete with Michael Ian Black and Hal Sparks commentary.

Anne
I'll pass.

Tofu blech
 

pj-

I just remembered why I love you. And wanted to let you know how glad I am to be sharing space on paigow's ignore list with you.

I'm sure you look charming in your grandmother's hat.

Bn(not opposed to Chilean grapes either)B

Two amusing Bennifer articles
 

My favorite, as usual, is the PeopleNews speculation:

They married on Monday. True to their professed desire for something Lo-key, the couple settled for a registry office, a couple of close friends and a vol-au-vent or two. Come on... It's all off. Friends of down-to-earth Affleck convinced him it was getting out of hand and she was never right for him anyway. Possible. The wedding's on hold. When press scrutiny dies down, Ben'n'Jen disappear into the wilds of smalltown America and return as Bennifer._It's still on. Key family members have apparently been told to stay put in Santa Barabara, leading to speculation that a smaller ceremony is in the offing._The cheque for the photo rights failed to impress.The couple is holding out for a more impressive offer than the rumoured $5 million already on the table. Two words: the Douglases. God advised against it. Lo is known to have chatted with away-with-the-fairies godmother Merle Gonzalez, who may have relayed to Jen the Almighty's message: that_dress looks awful. Hallelujah.

http://www.peoplenews.com/news/index.php?id=2871

Lies, damn lies and statistics
 

We had insomnia. Yes, the entire board. We are very sensitive about it and don't appreciate you pointing it out and mocking us for it.

I did not lick the eyeball of that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
 

Sounds more like it's been a slow life.

Even(afraid I am stuck at 45 forever unless I get hooked on the pipe)Odds

I did not lick the eyeball of that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
 

I think this is where Wonk is supposed to show up and suggest sex with a married guy as another way to lower your score.

Ollie (and then there's always sniffin' glue) Ramone

I did not lick the eyeball of that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
 

No cute cousins, eh?

I did not lick the eyeball of that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
 

27%. I think that's down from last year. But I can't figure out why.

Reel fiction beats real fiction
 

The Beckinsdale version was pretty good, actually. I, too, am anxious to see Underworld.

On the "movie is better than the book" theme, I find this an interesting question in the abstract, because, despite the entirely different art forms, I think the question "which was better" usually does have an answer and I don't have any clue why my opinions swing one way or the other. Anyhow:

The Firm: movie FAR exceeded the book. Much better ending.

Rosemary's Baby: a draw. S. King is right, they are actually totally interchangeable.

13th Warrior: Depends on which "book." Beowulf was better. Michael Crichton can't write for shit and is a preachy bastard, so I'll say 13W was better than Eaters of the Dead without having read it. But I have a soft spot for this movie because I went to it not having a clue that it was about Beowulf, and so I had a surprising blast.

Relic: The "book of the movie" was better than the movie. (The book of the movie was quite decent, a cut above the usual airport book, actually.)

Starship Troopers: Now, this is one of those interesting "how can you compare them" problems. The book was, overall, better than the movie. The movie was radically different than the book. The movie was also one of the better thematic translations of a book to screen that I have ever seen. The book was basically a philosophical and political treatise, and the movie translated the ideas pretty well.

I did not lick the eyeball of that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
 

28% here, which is about 5 points lower than last time. They must change the questions a little because lord knows I haven't been doing anything too impure in the last year.

I did not lick the eyeball of that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
 

Excuse me?




Love the avatar by the way. Have you ever played the King of the Hill Paintball game on Shockwave? The sound effects make the game.

Reel fiction beats real fiction
 

Blond?!? I've never seen her blonde. (Obviously, didn't see Laurel Canyon...)

I really didn't like Gwynneth Paltrow (except for the Box Hill Scene -- that was perfect...). She wasn't bad, certainly, but Gwynneth Paltrow playing a snob? Now that's a stretch...

Purity Test Variation
 

Feeling like a total reprobate, I decided to retake the test answering only with respect to my behavior over the last five years. My score was significantly raised over my lifetime score of 20%:


You are 52% Pure!
(Very interesting.)

Here's how the REST of the world breaks down, compared to you:

people less pure than you (27%)
people like you (2%)
people more pure than you (71%)

Dua(ah, the indiscretions of youth)lit

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

Good. Although I will be shocked if you don't reply to this post.

Actually, you said it was misogynistic. I said, "Absolutely. But (i) you only hear 2% of what's out there, so why are you pretending to be an expert on all of it and (ii) how is different than any other form of entertainment? You responded with (i) well, I heard some on the radio and it was bad and (ii) I've never watched tv or been to a movie. If you can't see how self inflated an opinion you have of yourself from making blanket statements about things you know little to nothing about, then your nuts.

You also tried to make it a race issue because I asked you why it bothered you so much since the genre is consistent in its misogyny with other forms of music, television, print ads, movies, whatever. I am a fan of rap. This is why I wanted to know why you had such a problem with it and nothing else. You couldn't comprehend that it wasn't a racial issue with me because in your mind, all I see is race and you are convinced you are right about everything.

And this is the bullshit I'm talking about. Whenever you say something stupid, it was a joke. "I was kidding. Can't you see that? Don't be so PC. Blah, blah, blah." You're full of shit. If it was so clearly a joke, why did like 8 people feel the need to tell you that they DO in fact do other things? And ask yourself, if you got that reaction, does it matter if you were joking?

And if you can't see the arrogance in suggesting alternate activities that have your stamp of approval because it's what YOU like to do, it's YOU that has "well and truly lost it."

For a smart guy, sometimes you are extraordinarily dense. I was not commenting on the substance of your joke. I recognized it as a joke. What you fail to see is that your defense of your joke is the exact same defense of my joke from the day before. You can't see it because your arguing style is to refuse to see it. When you say, "I get pissed and point out that maybe offense should possibly be measured at least partially in context of the speaker's history of trying to offend" it is substantially the same as when I say, "EO, from the context of the post, you should take the Raising Arizona joke as something that's harmless." You were fighting just as much to explain yourself to leagle as I was with EO. Yet, you CAN'T SEE that it is arrogant to suggest to ME that others didn't see my joke the way I did, so I might be wrong about it, while at the same time failing to apply your own brilliant logic to yourself twelve hours later.

More bilmore bullshit. Your argument about rap was paper thin. And I wasn't even arguing with you about people watching too much tv. I was making a point about the fact that you think you're better than people who DO watch tv. I don't give a shit what you think about rap or tv because in both cases YOU'VE ADMITTED you know nothing about either one. Your arrogance arises when you make pronouncements about shit you know nothing about and then turn the argument around to race or political correctness or other forms of other people being sensitive to your crap. That is the overall point.

No shit. Have you ever thought you weren't? Either way, you're still missing the point.

That's so fucking stupid it's comical. I apologized to EO the other day on IM on the very topic that started this. I apologize all the time when I've done something wrong or stupid. And you know what else I do? I admit when I'm wrong. I can't imagine that you have ever done that.

You backed down? Okay. Maybe it's because it's hard to argue about something you have conceded you know nothing about. And altering my point? Go back to the beginning of this email to see my point on rap music, which I've only spelled out for you 50 times.

You still don't get it. Whether or not I or Barely or anyone else on this board watches too much tv is irrelevant. My criticism of you is that your "joke" was arrogant because what you were really saying was, "you guys are pathetic because you're not more like me." You can argue 'til you're blue in the face that you were just kidding, but I'm sure most people know I'm mainly correct when I say, they were defensive about it because of that. It wasn't a throw away line, like "Damn you guys need to get out more." It was, "Look at me! I have a life and you don't!" And I'd like to note that I think it's hilarious that you would post something like that when you post on this board late at night. Shouldn't you be off enjoying your perfect life? Turn your criticism around on yourself.

What are you talking about? You're babbling old man. I have no problem with you or anyone else joking about things. Hell, I GOT your joke to leagle and AGREED with you on the substance of your argument with her. I just thought it was amazingly arrogant of you to fail to apply your stupid horn analogy to yourself in a situation that was exactly the same as mine. You don't see what I'm saying because you CAN'T. You're too busy screaming, "I'm right! I'm right!" to understand what is going on around you.

Do you think you're surprising me when you say that you'll stick to your opinion in as arrogant a way as possible? You'll make a stupid statement. Someone will call you on it. You'll yell that they're being PC or inserting race or whatever other knee-jerk defense mechanism you're employing that day. And then you'll walk around all day knowing you were right without actually hearing what they said to you.

TM

Not that anyone cares...
 

but if I can't crow about a fabulous purchase here, then where in the wide, wide world of sports can I do it?

I just won a tweed riding jacket (it's cubbing season, after all...) for $9 (that's right, you read that correctly $9) on e-bay. What a STEAL!!!

I never got around to reading that NYT Magazine article (although I kept that week's magazine and am hoping to get around to it eventually), but if the point of it was you're never as happy as you think you will be with the purchase of something (was that it?), they are just wrong, wrong, wrong. However, their wrongness may only apply when you're getting a bargain -- kind of like the maxim "everything tastes better if it's free!"

Not that anyone cares...
 

Crow away, it's what we live for. We all love a good deal. Well, at least I do.

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

Long diatribe by TM not omitted, because he deserves now to be as annoyed by this as we all are.

USE FUCKING PM ALREADY!

Since you obviously know we're all bored by this conversation, given your heading, continuing it in public serves no purpose. Throw us a bone here, and hit next for us BY USING PM

Not that anyone cares...
 

Sweet! Has anyone ever used e-bay for vintage hats/bags? Been happy with the clothes, etc. you've gotten? Many thanks for any advice--have never used e-bay.

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

Some of us enjoy the public debate. Since the most recent problems arose in part from two discussions on two days with two different people, I appreciate hearing what they have to say.

Thurgreed and I realized we were having two different conversations and resolved them through IM.

It is utterly ridiculous for any lawyer to claim to be cooler than any other lawyer. We are by nature geeky, were we not, we'd have dropped out of this life a long time ago.

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

Thanks for reminding me of this nugget, which is currently underused by me. I just can't hear it in anything other than the Dr Evil voice. Must work it into daily conversation...

In other news, Dualit, it isn't fair to wipe out your childhood indiscretions like that. Who among us, other than Winona Rider, would answer yes to shoplifting within the last 5 years?

Not that anyone cares...
 

Yes. I have bought handbags and I have been very happy with all but my first purchase (I overpaid since I knew not what I was doing). You need to be sure the seller has done a lot of transactions and that the comments have been positive. It's incredibly easy to check.

Tofu blech
 

When did Paigs let me off her ignore list? What do I need to do to get back on? The two of you and Chevy sounds like a fine crowd. I'll bring the tofu.

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

Okay. TM, when you PM bilmore, cc evenodds. Anyone else want to hear the continued debate? If so, please PM TM and/or bilmore, so they can include you on the cc list.

But the dead horse is already being eaten by dogs in Japan today. (and, by tomorrow those dogs will be being eaten in China.)

Tofu blech
 

I think you meant "steak," but the gesture is appreciated. I will try to think of a vegetable to bring. Popcorn counts, right?

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

If, by tomorrow, you are still talking about this, please skip the next obvious step in the progression of the horse. Impugning the eating habits of other countries is marginally acceptable, but scatology is right out.

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

I don't mind seeing the debate so much. I just don't want to see the passionate make-up sex that is sure to ensue.

Maybe if I fucked the dead horse, I could lower my purity score enough to catch gwnc.

Reel fiction beats real fiction
 

Anyone seen Pasolini's "Gospels of Jesus"? Better than the book.

(And my purity score goes down, just like that.)

Not that anyone cares...
 

I've bought bags that are NWT (new with tags) beofre, but never vintage. I've always been happy with what I've gotten. Recewtnly bought a Kate Spade Diaper Bag for about $40 less than in department stores...

I agree with evenodds advice...make sure the seller has loads of positive feedback, and do your due diligence.

Tofu blech
 

C'mon in. Mind the first step into the hot tub. It can get slippery.

Veal kabobs, all around please. And any other oppressed animal food we can think of.

Frankly, I'd just like a martini. (which reminds me...I had the most delicious cantelope martini several weeks ago. I know it sounds disgusting but it actually taste just like fresh cantelope. oooh...me want one now.....)

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

I have no clue what Bilmore realized, but we too resolved through other than on board means. I didn't get his joke as a joke, and was even less amused by his reaction to my not getting it as a joke. He was hurt because he figured I should have known it was a joke which is why he reacted the way in which he did.

This is an old story.

Person makes joke.

Other person doesn't get joke and reacts.

Person who made joke instead of saying, oops sorry, it was just a joke, didn't mean offense, makes a sarcastic or obnoxious response that you have no sense of humor or what have you because you didn't get the obviously funny joke you should have gotten, you moron, or you PC person or you whatever.

This further irritates.

Argument results.

Clarity occurs.

End of argument.

We could short cut this all if the person making the joke would simply recognize that when you make a joke, sometimes it won't be received as you intended and the response of the individual is a valid response to a joke that backfired. It doesn't require a lack of sense of humor, it doesn't require someone being overly PC. What it requires is that at that point in time the joke just rubbed the person the wrong way. This is the risk of joke telling. Happens to all of us.

Say oops and move on.

It isn't a big deal.

However the whole Bilmore/TM thing is a bit different. Y'all have been fighting for how many years now? It is sort of like bacon and eggs you two fighting. We're just used to it.

Plated Finds New Meaning
 

Flirting advice from NY's Museum of Sex:

"go to a restaurant, head for the bathroom, take off your panties and put them on your date's plate."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...leisure_sex_dc


I'm not sure how I would respond to this gesture. I can see either being turned on or pissed off. It would depend on the restaurant. It would depend on the woman. It would depend on what's in the Depends. I heartily approve of other suggestions:

"Tips were given on an exercise regimen aimed at keeping pelvic muscles in good shape and a recommendation for making eye contact with one's partner during oral sex."

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

I don't mind it. But the way I see it, the horse has been led to water and refused to drink, and is dead now.

I did not lick the eyeball of that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
 

Oops. RT (not RP). Apologies.

I will definitely check out the paintball.

Reel fiction beats real fiction
 

I really liked this movie a lot, because I went in having no idea what it was about and was pleasantly surprised to find Beowolf pretty much set exactly as I had envisioned the book back when I read it the first time in seventh grade.

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

Holy cow, I saw this episode! Doc also made a pass at a fetching young woman and Gopher did something goofy.

Hilarity ensued.

aV

Plated Finds New Meaning
 

If a woman is wearing Depends, I can pretty much guarantee that I won't have sex with her, no matter how "flirty" she gets.

sf

Reel fiction beats real fiction
 

You can add "The Rules of Attraction" to the list of movies made of Bret Easton Ellis novels that really, really sucked. Good lord that was horrid, even though expectations were already low.

SKIP IF YOU'RE SICK OF TM V. BILMORE
 

Oh, stop fucking whining. It would take 97% less energy to scroll past it than posting this stupid complaint took. Besides, no less than 6 people IMed or PMed me to express their views on the argument, so kiss my ass.

TM

Edited to add that I'm amazed that you followed up your first idiotic post (quoting my whole post and taking up space) asking me not to take up space with another idiotic post that says the same exact stupid thing.