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Replaced_Texan 06-16-2010 04:47 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 426503)
I mostly just listened and looked when something exciting happened. The last bit of the game had lots of excitement -- goalkeeper red card, penalty kick goal on the hapless replacement goalkeeper, and another goal at the end for a 3-0 win. Put that in your stats.

The red card is about when I posted. Poor SA.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-16-2010 05:06 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 426497)
2.

Michael is the best. I saw him from great seats those years we beat him. He was too fast. I can't describe it, but his first step was clearly just too fast for Dumars to handle. Joe did better than anyone else could, but the best defender in the league had no chance.

I saw him play a few times live. A couple times in good seats and more times in not-too-bad seats. He was unbelievably quick. Put a quicker guy on him and he would just rise above him or post him up. And when he lost some of that quickness, he would just fade away. Since he still had lift before he retired the second time, he just couldn't be guarded.

I remember watching Jordan and Pippen in their primes. In one game against the Wolves, I watched them half-ass it on cruise control for 3 1/2 quarters. They were literally going 2/3s speed. They were down 10 with like 6 minutes to play and I was close enough to see Jordan give a look to Pippen that clearly meant, "Turn it on, now." And then they really started playing and just created havoc--forced turnovers, steals, offensive boards, 3 point plays. It was ridiculous. It was like playing against your little kid.

Kobe has some of Jordan's athletic talent and basketball skill, but he doesn't know when to abandon the fade away jump shot in favor of the drive (to get fouled or to dish). The guy shoots way too much, especially when he's missing. And I don't think he knows the game or his teammates well enough to ever be as good as Jordan.

If the two of them had faced each other in the finals, in the deciding game, Kobe would score 36 on 10 of 30 shooting and Jordan would drop 45 on his head on 15 of 28 shooting to win the game.

TM

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2010 05:06 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 426504)
The red card is about when I posted. Poor SA.

the only person I've felt sorry for so far is the Brazilian goalie when the DPRK game was nil-nil. if he had let one bounce in and they lost he'd be a dead man.

Replaced_Texan 06-16-2010 05:06 PM

Re: Boring.
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 426496)

Unreliable stat over phone, ignore.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-16-2010 05:16 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 426506)
the only person I've felt sorry for so far is the Brazilian goalie when the DPRK game was nil-nil. if he had let one bounce in and they lost he'd be a dead man.

They're playing North Korea and you feel sorry for anyone on Brazil? I'm sure none of the DPRK players, or their families, face any consequences for a poor showing like, say, a half-family-meal-ration of grubs for the rest of their lives

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-16-2010 05:17 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 426503)
Put that in your stats.

Doesn't change the first-group-game stats . . .

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2010 05:46 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426508)
They're playing North Korea and you feel sorry for anyone on Brazil? I'm sure none of the DPRK players, or their families, face any consequences for a poor showing like, say, a half-family-meal-ration of grubs for the rest of their lives

wanna hear a "funny for patents" Korea story?

there's this treaty which acts as an option to file in up to 100 (actually more) countries. now when you file the application you automatically preserve the right to file in any of them. ten to 20 years ago you had to list the countries you were interested in preserving-

AND North Korea was in the treaty. 99.9999% of US patent filers have no interest in a NK patent (GGG's imaginary clients might which is why I don't say 100%)

but the problem is that North Korea and South Korea don't accept the divide.

So North Korea was/is not called that in the treaty- it's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. South is the Republic of Korea.

Several instances of malpractice grew from secretaries and lawyers checking the DPRK box instead of the RPK box. and I have have an actual conversatino with one who said "Democratic, that's like us, I figured." (Hi Ty!!)

Tyrone Slothrop 06-16-2010 05:52 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 426510)
wanna hear a "funny for patents" Korea story?

there's this treaty which acts as an option to file in up to 100 (actually more) countries. now when you file the application you automatically preserve the right to file in any of them. ten to 20 years ago you had to list the countries you were interested in preserving-

AND North Korea was in the treaty. 99.9999% of US patent filers have no interest in a NK patent (GGG's imaginary clients might which is why I don't say 100%)

but the problem is that North Korea and South Korea don't accept the divide.

So North Korea was/is not called that in the treaty- it's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. South is the Republic of Korea.

Several instances of malpractice grew from secretaries and lawyers checking the DPRK box instead of the RPK box. and I have have an actual conversatino with one who said "Democratic, that's like us, I figured." (Hi Ty!!)

Hi! But shouldn't it be translated as Democrat People's Republic of Korea? Somone get Spanky on this.

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2010 06:00 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 426511)
Hi! But shouldn't it be translated as Democrat People's Republic of Korea? Somone get Spanky on this.

hmmm. sticking to soccer only, and not base political beliefs, the Dems can hardly be tied to the NKers. The NKers were mainly focused on defense and protecting their goal. I think that makes the NK soccer team a Republican?

patentparanyc 06-16-2010 06:11 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 426510)
wanna hear a "funny for patents" Korea story?

there's this treaty which acts as an option to file in up to 100 (actually more) countries. now when you file the application you automatically preserve the right to file in any of them. ten to 20 years ago you had to list the countries you were interested in preserving-

AND North Korea was in the treaty. 99.9999% of US patent filers have no interest in a NK patent (GGG's imaginary clients might which is why I don't say 100%)

but the problem is that North Korea and South Korea don't accept the divide.

So North Korea was/is not called that in the treaty- it's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. South is the Republic of Korea.

Several instances of malpractice grew from secretaries and lawyers checking the DPRK box instead of the RPK box. and I have have an actual conversatino with one who said "Democratic, that's like us, I figured." (Hi Ty!!)

When you register with the Cali Bar, they ASK YOU country of origin and I had to google it. it's really easy. Google-fu. Own it. Love it.

there is a funny story at a firm years past. Country of New Mexico, State of Canada. and no, no, not me. :)

I just don't miss patent one bit. not even sure if N korea would be pct or direct foreign filing. I think direct. shudder.

Gah. No thx.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-16-2010 06:20 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
The Swiss coach, earlier today:

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“We saw how the Americans played against Spain with a lot of interest,” Hitzfeld said. “You know that if you are going to have a chance against [the Spanish] you need to do certain things very well.

“The USA did not try to do everything. They accepted the fact that Spain has pace and width and simply made sure they kept the center of defense as tight as they could. It is not a perfect system, but it was a very interesting tactic and it worked.”

Replaced_Texan 06-16-2010 06:22 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426509)
Doesn't change the first-group-game stats . . .

I think Americans are trained to be very statistic oriented in their sports watching. I like the FIFA stats page because it has a lot of information, but that's not where I'd go to find out about the teams that are playing and how well they're doing (though Brazil is fucking unbelievable at the number of passes they make and their completion rate). But if you look at the box score, of say Span vs. Switzerland you don't get much information except the general sense that Spain had the ball most of the time, had a lot of opportunities to score, but Switzerland won. It's very different than last night's Lakers vs Celtics box score that is individual player oriented and whatever game this is from baseball (the MLB site sucks) which is also individual player oriented.

Adder 06-16-2010 06:28 PM

Dweebness
 
Already owning the theatrical releases and extended editions of each of the films, can I justify buying the new blu ray versions of the Lord of the Rings movies?

Replaced_Texan 06-16-2010 06:29 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 426510)
wanna hear a "funny for patents" Korea story?

there's this treaty which acts as an option to file in up to 100 (actually more) countries. now when you file the application you automatically preserve the right to file in any of them. ten to 20 years ago you had to list the countries you were interested in preserving-

AND North Korea was in the treaty. 99.9999% of US patent filers have no interest in a NK patent (GGG's imaginary clients might which is why I don't say 100%)

but the problem is that North Korea and South Korea don't accept the divide.

So North Korea was/is not called that in the treaty- it's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. South is the Republic of Korea.

Several instances of malpractice grew from secretaries and lawyers checking the DPRK box instead of the RPK box. and I have have an actual conversatino with one who said "Democratic, that's like us, I figured." (Hi Ty!!)

We were curious yesterday to figure out who exactly was willing to forego American business to outfit North Korea. After some fits and starts with the pause button in the DVR, we deciphered "Legea" and went to their Wiki.

Italian. Other international clients are:

Albania national football team
Bosnia and Herzegovina national football team
Iran national football team (until 2015)
Montenegro national football team
Zimbabwe national football team

patentparanyc 06-16-2010 06:30 PM

Re: Dweebness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 426516)
Already owning the theatrical releases and extended editions of each of the films, can I justify buying the new blu ray versions of the Lord of the Rings movies?


If you enjoy it, why not, I say? i may buy a new i phone and after we buy the kids i pads. it may be overkill after my husband's htc new smart fone but whatevs.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 06-16-2010 07:03 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 426505)
I saw him play a few times live. A couple times in good seats and more times in not-too-bad seats. He was unbelievably quick. Put a quicker guy on him and he would just rise above him or post him up. And when he lost some of that quickness, he would just fade away. Since he still had lift before he retired the second time, he just couldn't be guarded.

I remember watching Jordan and Pippen in their primes. In one game against the Wolves, I watched them half-ass it on cruise control for 3 1/2 quarters. They were literally going 2/3s speed. They were down 10 with like 6 minutes to play and I was close enough to see Jordan give a look to Pippen that clearly meant, "Turn it on, now." And then they really started playing and just created havoc--forced turnovers, steals, offensive boards, 3 point plays. It was ridiculous. It was like playing against your little kid.

Kobe has some of Jordan's athletic talent and basketball skill, but he doesn't know when to abandon the fade away jump shot in favor of the drive (to get fouled or to dish). The guy shoots way too much, especially when he's missing. And I don't think he knows the game or his teammates well enough to ever be as good as Jordan.

If the two of them had faced each other in the finals, in the deciding game, Kobe would score 36 on 10 of 30 shooting and Jordan would drop 45 on his head on 15 of 28 shooting to win the game.

TM

2.

Our idiot loudmouth (but award winning!) local columnist just posted a new column calling Kobe the second best ever ("And apologies to Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Bill Russell and Co., but they aren't in his class."). I think Kobe is the best in the game today, but I'd take Magic or Bird over him. Russell's before my time (and harder to compare, anyway).

Whole thing here: http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/ore...performan.html

Gattigap 06-16-2010 07:07 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 426519)
2.

Our idiot loudmouth (but award winning!) local columnist just posted a new column calling Kobe the second best ever ("And apologies to Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Bill Russell and Co., but they aren't in his class."). I think Kobe is the best in the game today, but I'd take Magic or Bird over him. Russell's before my time (and harder to compare, anyway).

Whole thing here: http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/ore...performan.html


Agree that Kobe's probably the best today, but also agree that it seems your idiot loudmouth is indeed an idiot loudmouth.

FWIW, there are plenty of homers in the LA media for Kobe, but not everyone. One of the local wiseass columnists has dubbed Kobe Our Ball Hog.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-16-2010 07:22 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 426515)
I think Americans are trained to be very statistic oriented in their sports watching. I like the FIFA stats page because it has a lot of information, but that's not where I'd go to find out about the teams that are playing and how well they're doing (though Brazil is fucking unbelievable at the number of passes they make and their completion rate). But if you look at the box score, of say Span vs. Switzerland you don't get much information except the general sense that Spain had the ball most of the time, had a lot of opportunities to score, but Switzerland won. It's very different than last night's Lakers vs Celtics box score that is individual player oriented and whatever game this is from baseball (the MLB site sucks) which is also individual player oriented.

Some Americans are stats oriented. Most just want the two teams they're watching to score and, better yet, to have one team win!

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 06-16-2010 07:23 PM

Re: Dweebness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 426516)
Already owning the theatrical releases and extended editions of each of the films, can I justify buying the new blu ray versions of the Lord of the Rings movies?

No. Because you're never going to watch them unless you flip to them and they're on one of your hd movie channels and you decide not to turn the channel.

The only movies I actually watch from my dvd collection are Trading Places and Trains, Planes and Automobiles.

TM

eta: And Snatch.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-16-2010 07:28 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 426519)
Our idiot loudmouth (but award winning!) local columnist just posted a new column calling Kobe the second best ever ("And apologies to Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Bill Russell and Co., but they aren't in his class."). I think Kobe is the best in the game today, but I'd take Magic or Bird over him. Russell's before my time (and harder to compare, anyway).

I'll have to check that out. I agree with everything you say, except the "Kobe is the best in the game today." He's clearly the best if you need someone to take over at the end of the game or hit a game-winning shot--and that's definitely very important. But Lebron is a better player. I'll ask you what I asked Ty about Bird. If you put Lebron on the Lakers and Kobe on the Cavs, the Lakers would miss the playoffs and the Lakers would probably win the championship in 5.

TM

Tyrone Slothrop 06-16-2010 07:29 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 426520)
Agree that Kobe's probably the best today, but also agree that it seems your idiot loudmouth is indeed an idiot loudmouth.

FWIW, there are plenty of homers in the LA media for Kobe, but not everyone. One of the local wiseass columnists has dubbed Kobe Our Ball Hog.

His act of playing nonplussed (in the incorrect sense of the word) at post-game press conferences is so very, very tired.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-16-2010 07:30 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 426521)
Some Americans are stats oriented. Most just want the two teams they're watching to score and, better yet, to have one team win!

You're saying Americans aren't smart enough to handle three possible outcomes instead of just two? Hockey tends to suggest you're right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall
If you put Lebron on the Lakers and Kobe on the Cavs, the Lakers would miss the playoffs and the Lakers would probably win the championship in 5.

Doing both would be quite the feat.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-16-2010 07:44 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 426520)
it seems your idiot loudmouth is indeed an idiot loudmouth.

Clearly.

"He's a better long-range shooter than Jordan, and more skilled all-around offensively." What? Yes on long range, are you fucking delusional on all-around? That's not even close to funny.

"And apologies to Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Bill Russell and Co., but they aren't in his class." This is a joke. This guy shouldn't be able to write about basketball ever again.

"In the Finals, against the unit that plays the league's best team defense, Bryant is averaging 29.5 points per game. That's a basket above his season scoring average." Ha! What is his shooting percentage? How often does the ball go to Kobe and never come back out again, freezing the offense? The idiot loudmouth should study this article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...-of-the-finals

"Bird won three NBA titles but wasn't the all-around player that Bryant is. Magic was a charismatic entertainer and a wonderfully creative offensive player, but he didn't play top-notch defense or carry his team single-mindedly the way Bryant does. And Russell isn't in the same conversation as Bryant offensively." Bird was a slow, kind of crappy defender, but he could score with Kobe any day and was 5 times the passer Kobe is. Magic comanded the game, led his team, made everyone around him better and sacrificed scoring for assists. This guy forgot that Magic played all 5 positions in game 6 of the championships in '80 and put up 42 purnts, snatched 15 boards, while passing out 7 dimes. And Russell has 10 championships and guarded Jabbar and fucking Wilt Chamberlain.

"Loudmouth idiot" is an understatement.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 06-16-2010 07:48 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 426525)
You're saying Americans aren't smart enough to handle three possible outcomes instead of just two? Hockey tends to suggest you're right.

Interesting that you think it's about brains. If I'm stupid because I went to a game expecting to see one team win and was disappointed when the game ended 0-0, then I guess I'm not smart enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 426525)
Doing both would be quite the feat.

Lebron on Lakers wins in 5. Kobe on Cavs misses playoffs.

TM

Pretty Little Flower 06-16-2010 08:42 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 426521)
Some Americans are stats oriented. Most just want the two teams they're watching to score and, better yet, to have one team win!

TM

Americans don't like soccer because they are not used to it, don't understand it, and have lots of other really good sports options. Other countries enjoy soccer because it is and has been the biggest or one of the biggest sports in their countries since they were kids, and they grew up watching it. I don't think American sports sentivities in that regard are somehow better or worse than the rest of the world -- just different. I don't think we are better than, well, pretty much every single country in the world because we don't like soccer, nor are we unsophisticated thugs for not appreciating soccer. It just seems like a dumb argument to have that fans of one sport are somehow better or worse than fans of another sport.

Well, I just opened up the NYT, and find my belief (that arguing about whether Americans are good or bad because we don't like soccer is moronic) is confirmed:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...-mentality/?hp

Icky Thump 06-16-2010 09:21 PM

Re: Okay, maybe I like soccer a little.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 426480)

Now THAT would catch on in a minute here.

Icky Thump 06-16-2010 09:24 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 426473)
Sadly, I still don't understand what this means. Sigh.

"I will suck your dick in Macy's window if LeBron comes to the Knicks." is a bet I have made with like umpteen motherfuckers.

Icky Thump 06-16-2010 09:27 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 426514)
The Swiss coach, earlier today:

Protect the middle. Oy, what a novel concept.

Icky Thump 06-16-2010 09:30 PM

Why the world likes soccer
 
There are no other sports to watch on TV and all their other TV is SHIT !

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-16-2010 09:42 PM

Re: Okay, maybe I like soccer a little.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 426529)
Now THAT would catch on in a minute here.

Why does that chick get to wear some kind of underbra? That's less fair than Drogba's cast.

Adder 06-16-2010 10:04 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 426526)
"Bird won three NBA titles but wasn't the all-around player that Bryant is. Magic was a charismatic entertainer and a wonderfully creative offensive player, but he didn't play top-notch defense or carry his team single-mindedly the way Bryant does. And Russell isn't in the same conversation as Bryant offensively."

This is idiotic, for the reasons you mention. Bird was way more of an "all-around" player than Kobe. He was more limited on defense, because as you say, he was slower. But he was also playing 3, and today likely would have played 4. Moreover, his play making and rebounding more than make up for the difference.

Magic carried his team by setting up other guys, and could guard anyone on the court.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-16-2010 10:20 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 426527)
Interesting that you think it's about brains. If I'm stupid because I went to a game expecting to see one team win and was disappointed when the game ended 0-0, then I guess I'm not smart enough.

I don't really think it's about brains. But it does take getting used to. There is a different kind of strategery involved in a sport where you get 3 points for a win and only 1 for a draw, and where there are no playoffs. If all you care about is who wins a given game, then that stuff doesn't appeal.[/quote]

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Lebron on Lakers wins in 5. Kobe on Cavs misses playoffs.
I don't think I disagree, but maybe I'm just tired of watching Kobe's press conferences.

Flinty_McFlint 06-16-2010 10:44 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 426530)
"I will suck your dick in Macy's window if LeBron comes to the Knicks." is a bet I have made with like umpteen motherfuckers.

Now I'm confused as to where you want LeBron to sign.

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2010 10:47 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 426520)
Agree that Kobe's probably the best today,

lebron is very clearly the most talented player today, or could be. he has no support, and has learned to play such that he is too needy with the ball. I really don't know if he can adjust to being on a team. but the stuff he does 1 guy can do. Kobe is special, but others can do what he does, just not as often.

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2010 10:48 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 426521)
Some Americans are stats oriented. Most just want the two teams they're watching to score and, better yet, to have one team win!

TM

plus we need beer/pee breaks. maybe we just need to learn to beat up the other team's fans?

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2010 10:54 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 426528)
Americans don't like soccer because they are not used to it, don't understand it, and have lots of other really good sports options. Other countries enjoy soccer because it is and has been the biggest or one of the biggest sports in their countries since they were kids, and they grew up watching it. I don't think American sports sentivities in that regard are somehow better or worse than the rest of the world -- just different. I don't think we are better than, well, pretty much every single country in the world because we don't like soccer, nor are we unsophisticated thugs for not appreciating soccer. It just seems like a dumb argument to have that fans of one sport are somehow better or worse than fans of another sport.

Well, I just opened up the NYT, and find my belief (that arguing about whether Americans are good or bad because we don't like soccer is moronic) is confirmed:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...-mentality/?hp

i also don't like european porn. it seems to me like they're faking speaking german. and some of the lady parts seem strange.

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2010 10:57 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 426535)
There is a different kind of strategery involved in a sport where you get 3 points for a win and only 1 for a draw, and where there are no playoffs. If all you care about is who wins a given game, then that stuff doesn't appeal.

I don't get this. I get that NK was playing Brazil for a tie and I get that US might have been playing UK for one too. But mostly you have to win to advance right?

Tyrone Slothrop 06-16-2010 11:58 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 426540)
I don't get this. I get that NK was playing Brazil for a tie and I get that US might have been playing UK for one too. But mostly you have to win to advance right?

It's harder to see the dynamic in the first match of the round, but it seems like a lot of teams have been playing not to lose. For example, the Portugal / Ivory Coast match. If that's the third match, at least one of the teams will think they have to win, and they go at it. By the second and third matches, a team's place in the standing will start to dictate things.

Similarly, when you have a home-and-home series with away goals as the tiebreaker, teams have to take a longer view than just winning that game. I think it makes the sport richer, but if TM or someone else doesn't like it, that's fine. I don't like auto racing.

Hank Chinaski 06-17-2010 12:04 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 426541)
I don't like auto racing.

do you know about the exposed tits when u c it live?

Icky Thump 06-17-2010 05:53 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 426538)
plus we need beer/pee breaks. maybe we just need to learn to beat up the other team's fans?

going to take a leak at a soccer game and missing the goal is worse than a premature orgasm


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