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Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-16-2003 10:42 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by Anne Elk

No one can lose, like the Giants can lose.
The Red Sox.

ltl/fb 09-16-2003 10:43 AM

Dating Question
 
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Originally posted by evenodds
Okay, I have been discussing a situation with one of my girlfriends whose birthday is next week.

She has just started dating this new guy. They've been out once or twice, and she likes him.

She'd like to go out with him for her birthday.

Should she remind him that her birthday is next week and hope he steps up? Should she schedule something with him for her birthday, but not tell him it's her birthday? Or something else?
I think either she should make it clear that it's her birthday and she wants to see him on her birthday or not do anything. The hinting is annoying and the secret birthday is kinda creepy.

My two cents and contribution to the effort to get posts.

Shape Shifter 09-16-2003 10:43 AM

strip club question
 
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
At every strip club do the dancers constantly pester you for a table dance? Or are there some out there where they are a little more relaxed? - like if you are getting one, another girl will not pounce on you immediately afterward. What is customary?
This sometimes happens during non-peak hours. Some of the better clubs get such a crowd at peak times that it can be difficult to get a dance. Of course, when a place attracts a crowd, it will also attract more entertainers, who usually work as independent contractors. They may want to start a little early to get a jump on their competition, so to speak. But it's all simple economics, and my invisible hand is working.

evenodds 09-16-2003 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Luckily, I was able to sit through all the inane comments made about Shockey to enjoy an outstanding finish. Shockey's comment about Parcells was stupid (you can take the boy out of Oklahoma but you can't take the Oklahoma out of the boy), but the only people who seemed to care were Lisa Guerrero and Al Michaels. Bill Parcells is 62 years old - he either knows that he is not homosexual or that there is nothing wrong with that.
The single best way to watch a MNF game is on a 45 minute delay. We skipped all the commercials, half-time, almost every time the Bimbette opened her mouth, and half of Al Michaels bullshit.

Even(I love my dvr)Odds

notcasesensitive 09-16-2003 10:47 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Luckily, I was able to sit through all the inane comments made about Shockey to enjoy an outstanding finish. Shockey's comment about Parcells was stupid (you can take the boy out of Oklahoma but you can't take the Oklahoma out of the boy), but the only people who seemed to care were Lisa Guerrero and Al Michaels. Bill Parcells is 62 years old - he either knows that he is not homosexual or that there is nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, that entire story is just made up by the press. Parcells never cared and it was basically a stupid schoolyard taunt that should have been left in 7th grade. Non-story.

Lisa G. continues to fail to impress. I liked it when she was talking about Hamilton being injured and she had to look at the monitor to get the guy's name. Something that could have been committed to memory, maybe?

I'm not happy the the G-Men gave the game back. Not exactly surprised though either...

purse junkie 09-16-2003 10:48 AM

Dating Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
She has just started dating this new guy. They've been out once or twice, and she likes him.

She'd like to go out with him for her birthday.

She should invite him out to dinner/drinks/whatever festive thing as part of a small group. That way he doesn't face the "Jesus Christ I just started dating her and she wants to spend her birthday with me only isn't this going too fast" overanalysis freakout thing, as it's a small group, or the "Jesus Christ we've only gone out a couple of times what do I get her thing," as he can simply treat her to dinner along with everyone else. Plus the friends get to scope him out.

paigowprincess 09-16-2003 10:49 AM

Dating Question
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I think either she should make it clear that it's her birthday and she wants to see him on her birthday or not do anything. The hinting is annoying and the secret birthday is kinda creepy.

My two cents and contribution to the effort to get posts.
concur, but would the outright invite look like a cheap attempt to get a birthday present? and does she have to go with him and a group of people so as not to appear freiendless? if so, is it too soon to meet the friends.

i say she is fucked

ThrashersFan 09-16-2003 10:49 AM

Dating Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Okay, I have been discussing a situation with one of my girlfriends whose birthday is next week.

She has just started dating this new guy. They've been out once or twice, and she likes him.

She'd like to go out with him for her birthday.

Should she remind him that her birthday is next week and hope he steps up? Should she schedule something with him for her birthday, but not tell him it's her birthday? Or something else?
Out only once or twice? She should invite him out to dinner. She should tell him that it is her birthday because it is very likely to escape at some point during the night and then he will feel like a schmuck for not at least bringing her flowers. She should say that she wants to take him to dinner, that it is her birthday but that she wants to play it low key and just have a nice dinner with him because, well, she believes that she will enjoy spending the time with him. I think this makes it not too overbearing (ie "holy shit, does she want me around on her birthday because she wants to get serious too soon?") yet makes it not a total surprise so that he worries that he was supposed to know and now feels like an idiot for not knowing. Perhaps he will pick up the tab as a birthday gift.

edited -- oops, everyone beat me because I over-thought it.

Anne Elk 09-16-2003 10:50 AM

Dating Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
She has just started dating this new guy. They've been out once or twice, and she likes him.

She'd like to go out with him for her birthday.

Should she remind him that her birthday is next week and hope he steps up? Should she schedule something with him for her birthday, but not tell him it's her birthday? Or something else?
Does she want to go out with him for her birthday because she likes him and it would be nice to spend time with him on her birthday, or is she setting up some sort of subconscious test of his potential?

It's too early in the relationship (if there is one) to expect him to do something special for her birthday. Of course, if he's smart, or a playa, he'll do something nice and score points.

If she wants to spend time with him (instead of with friends or family), then she should schedule something with him and not tell him it is her birthday. It's unfair to put that kind of pressure on someone so early in a relationship.

Anne
You should spend your birthday how you want to (you only get one a year).

evenodds 09-16-2003 10:50 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Lisa G. continues to fail to impress. I liked it when she was talking about Hamilton being injured and she had to look at the monitor to get the guy's name. Something that could have been committed to memory, maybe?
That was the funniest moment of the evening. I actually rewound it to see it again.

She has one freakin job and she talks on camera three times a night. How stupid do you have to be to not remember his name?

greatwhitenorthchick 09-16-2003 10:52 AM

Dating Question
 
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
My two cents and contribution to the effort to get posts.
Congratulations on achieving your personal k - that must have happened some time yesterday.

Anne Elk 09-16-2003 10:52 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The Red Sox.
Maybe that's why they are my favorite MLB team. I got used to the suffering as a Giants fan in the early 80's.

notcasesensitive 09-16-2003 10:52 AM

Dating Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
She should invite him out to dinner/drinks/whatever festive thing as part of a small group. That way he doesn't face the "Jesus Christ I just started dating her and she wants to spend her birthday with me only isn't this going too fast" overanalysis freakout thing, as it's a small group, or the "Jesus Christ we've only gone out a couple of times what do I get her thing," as he can simply treat her to dinner along with everyone else. Plus the friends get to scope him out.
Yeah, I would go with an invite to drinks with friends to celebrate. Leave it up to him if he wants to offer to take her out to dinner also, but not request it. this sounds way to rulesish for my liking, but that early in dating, anything more might seem kind of forced.

Shape Shifter 09-16-2003 10:53 AM

Dating Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Okay, I have been discussing a situation with one of my girlfriends whose birthday is next week.

She has just started dating this new guy. They've been out once or twice, and she likes him.

She'd like to go out with him for her birthday.

Should she remind him that her birthday is next week and hope he steps up? Should she schedule something with him for her birthday, but not tell him it's her birthday? Or something else?
I essentially concur with St. F the B on this. It's too soon to expect the guy to do something romantic and special. She should have her friends arrange some sort of gathering and have her friends invite the new guy. This should be a "no gifts allowed" affair so he does not feel the pressure of shopping for a woman he may like but hardly knows. This kind of pressure can cause a man to bail.

Scheduling something on her birthday - without telling him it's her birthday - registers strongly on the psychometer.

evenodds 09-16-2003 10:53 AM

Dating Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Anne Elk
If she wants to spend time with him (instead of with friends or family), then she should schedule something with him and not tell him it is her birthday. It's unfair to put that kind of pressure on someone so early in a relationship.
This is the advice I gave her. It's too soon to put performance pressure on.

Shape Shifter 09-16-2003 10:54 AM

Dating Question
 
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Originally posted by paigowprincess

i say she is fucked
This can be arranged.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-16-2003 10:55 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by Anne Elk


Summary:
Fetal sleepers tend to be shy and sensitive while people who assume the soldier position, flat on their back with arms at their sides, are quiet and reserved.

Sleeping on one's side with legs outstretched and arms down in what Idzikowski refers to as the log, indicates a social, easy-going personality. But if the arms are outstretched, the person tends to be more suspicious.

The freefall, flat on the tummy with the hands at the sides of the head, is the most unusual position. Only 6.5 percent of people prefer it and they are usually brash and gregarious.

Unassuming, good listeners usually adopt the starfish position -- on the back with outstretched arms and legs.

I'm a log. (TM would probably agree with that.)

I'm occasionally a starfish, freefaller and a log.

When you're there, I sleep lengthwise
And when you're gone
I sleep diagonal in my bed.

ThrashersFan 09-16-2003 10:56 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Take a wild guess as to what I am. Freefaller, ********* Its jjust the best position.


Except when you have TITS. Back is kinda weird too because they fall into your armpits (if they are real). Side is generally okay. Or just sleep on your back and wear a bra.

ltl/fb 09-16-2003 10:58 AM

Dating Question
 
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Congratulations on achieving your personal k - that must have happened some time yesterday.
Yes, yesterday. It was a post on zoloft and anorgasmia. It seemed k-worthy.

paigowprincess 09-16-2003 10:59 AM

Dating Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Yeah, I would go with an invite to drinks with friends to celebrate. Leave it up to him if he wants to offer to take her out to dinner also, but not request it. this sounds way to rulesish for my liking, but that early in dating, anything more might seem kind of forced.
I think this only works if he gets to bring his friends, bc otherwise he is totally outnumbered. and it sounds like a lot of work to get everyone to round up their people. esp if short notice.

ThrashersFan 09-16-2003 11:01 AM

Dating Question
 
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Originally posted by evenodds
This is the advice I gave her [don't tell him that it is her B-Day]. It's too soon to put performance pressure on.

But what if she slips or she gets ID'd and the server says "hey, happy B-Day." Does she mumble something about not being big on celebrating and thus spoil all future birthdays with this guy (fine with me since I don't celebrate mine) or does she then explain that she wanted to see him on her B-Day but didn't want to freak him out and thus probably freak him out? Tell him casually when you ask him out and perhaps even add that you are celebrating with friends this weekend and invite him along if you like. This takes off the pressure of slipping up later, tells him that you want to be with him but that it isn't so serious that you are blowing your party time on him. Of course, what the fuck do I know?

notcasesensitive 09-16-2003 11:02 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I'm occasionally a starfish, freefaller and a log.

When you're there, I sleep lengthwise
And when you're gone
I sleep diagonal in my bed.
Wait, I don't think I've been in your bed before. Now I'm a little confused though.

I'm typically a freefaller or log. I do sleep diagonally when alone too. Well, I start off straight, but gradually over the course of the night work into diagonal position in the ongoing effort to find a cool spot for the feet.

Had no idea that women with big TITS had sleeping issues. I'll think about that while I am comfortably freefalling tonight.

paigowprincess 09-16-2003 11:03 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I'm occasionally a starfish, freefaller and a log.

When you're there, I sleep lengthwise
And when you're gone
I sleep diagonal in my bed.
I thank you for not mentioning the gf.

paigowprincess 09-16-2003 11:05 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Except when you have TITS. Back is kinda weird too because they fall into your armpits (if they are real). Side is generally okay. Or just sleep on your back and wear a bra.
I am sorry but did you just call me flatchested? I have a pillow top mattress with a soft thing on top of it, so my girls have plenty of cushion.

I wonder it this means that a freefaller who gets fake tits has a personality change? bc they are too hard to sleep on? she would lose her brash and greagrious self? Interesting.

I dont get the log. what happens to the arm that is on the side you are lying on? This sounds very oncomfortable.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-16-2003 11:06 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
I thank you for not mentioning the gf.
Why would I? I was talking about you.

ThrashersFan 09-16-2003 11:09 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
I am sorry but did you just call me flatchested? I have a pillow top mattress with a soft thing on top of it, so my girls have plenty of cushion.

I wonder it this means that a freefaller who gets fake tits has a personality change? bc they are too hard to sleep on? she would lose her brash and greagrious self? Interesting.

I dont get the log. what happens to the arm that is on the side you are lying on? This sounds very oncomfortable.
Nope, just not capital "T" titted. When you get into the DD range (and I seem to recall some trouble in D too) pillow-top doesn't matter -- there isn't anywhere for the boobs to go and you are sleeping on lumps and it can be somewhat painful to that sensitive breast tissue. I have tried sleeping on my stomach with a pillow under me and it is still uncomfortable. Every woman I know with big 'uns (who I have asked about this) says the same thing. We all know what happens to your boobs when you lay on your back so ......

notcasesensitive 09-16-2003 11:09 AM

Dating Question
 
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter

Scheduling something on her birthday - without telling him it's her birthday - registers strongly on the psychometer.
Yeah, weird. And potentially embarrassing, as TF pointed out. If not that night, it could still end up weird later when they get around to discussing b'days and the guy realizes that he actually did something with her but she didn't tell him. Also bad precedent.

purse junkie 09-16-2003 11:11 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Except when you have TITS. Back is kinda weird too because they fall into your armpits (if they are real). Side is generally okay. Or just sleep on your back and wear a bra.
Was a freefaller until increasing development made it impossible. Now am starfish.

Would never, ever occur to me to wear a bra to bed. Annoying enough to have to wear one in the daytime, except I wouldn't want my rack to bounce up and smash me in the chin walking around.

paigowprincess 09-16-2003 11:13 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Why would I? I was talking about you.
(blush) it is your kind, easygoing logness that takes me from being a shy sensitive fetalist to my real, brash freefall self. The one night stand people never get to see this side. Or didnt back in the day, or wouldnt if I did such a thing.

barely_legal 09-16-2003 11:13 AM

Dating Question
 
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Yeah, weird. And potentially embarrassing, as TF pointed out. If not that night, it could still end up weird later when they get around to discussing b'days and the guy realizes that he actually did something with her but she didn't tell him. Also bad precedent.
Wasn't this a Seinfeld episode? The one with Ben Stiller's wife?

Sometimes I think every problem I've ever had or will have has been addressed in a Seinfeld episode. Except for my kayaking problems.

Anne Elk 09-16-2003 11:16 AM

Dating Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Yeah, weird. And potentially embarrassing, as TF pointed out. If not that night, it could still end up weird later when they get around to discussing b'days and the guy realizes that he actually did something with her but she didn't tell him. Also bad precedent.
I think it is only bad precedent if she is one of those Big Birthday people, who like/expect lots of fuss and festivities.

I'm not big into birthdays. I like to go out to a favorite bar/restaurant with friends and have a good time. I don't tell anyone. They feel no pressure to buy a gift or chip in on dinner, I'm not the center of attention, and we have a good time. To me, that is the ideal birthday celebration. Of course, the SO and I have our own special fun later in the evening.

I get to spend the day as I want it, instead of sitting on the couch.

Anne
Of course, depending on sports that they are showing on TV that night, I may want to spend the evening on the couch.

bold_n_brazen 09-16-2003 11:17 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by purse junkie


Would never, ever occur to me to wear a bra to bed. Annoying enough to have to wear one in the daytime, except I wouldn't want my rack to bounce up and smash me in the chin walking around.
Started to wear a bra to bed when I started breastfeeding. I HATE IT. The nuimber one reason to wean in my book it to go back to sleeping bra-less...well, that, and the possibility that I may be able to see my toes over my boobies once these things deflate...

I am seriously considering breast reduction surgery once we've decided not to have any more little Brazens...thoughts, comments, cheap shots?

paigowprincess 09-16-2003 11:18 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Nope, just not capital "T" titted. When you get into the DD range (and I seem to recall some trouble in D too) pillow-top doesn't matter -- there isn't anywhere for the boobs to go and you are sleeping on lumps and it can be somewhat painful to that sensitive breast tissue. I have tried sleeping on my stomach with a pillow under me and it is still uncomfortable. Every woman I know with big 'uns (who I have asked about this) says the same thing. We all know what happens to your boobs when you lay on your back so ......
Are you telling me there is no such thing as a brash, gregarious Double D lady? I think Dolly Parton might disagree. And probably half the women in Dallas where I suspect most of the Double Ded 6.5 live.

purse junkie 09-16-2003 11:19 AM

Dating Question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Anne Elk
I'm not big into birthdays. I like to go out to a favorite bar/restaurant with friends and have a good time. I don't tell anyone. They feel no pressure to buy a gift or chip in on dinner, I'm not the center of attention, and we have a good time. To me, that is the ideal birthday celebration. Of course, the SO and I have our own special fun later in the evening.

The only problem with this approach is the lack of a truly excellent cake.

idle acts 09-16-2003 11:20 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Except when you have TITS. Back is kinda weird too because they fall into your armpits (if they are real). Side is generally okay. Or just sleep on your back and wear a bra.
That's odd. I have the 36DDs to contend with, and I sleep freefall most every night. Even when I start out on my side, I end up on my stomach. And I would never wear a bra to bed. It's bad enough having to wear one everywhere else.

purse junkie 09-16-2003 11:23 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I am seriously considering breast reduction surgery once we've decided not to have any more little Brazens...thoughts, comments, cheap shots?
Doesn't it leave a big ugly noticeable scar? Or have they now fixed that problem with the surgery?

Better to just embrace 'em IMHO.

leagleaze 09-16-2003 11:26 AM

1. What's the big deal about the birthday? Set something up with the friends and have the friends ask him, or she can just mention it or tell him its her birthday and she'd like to do something with him. Or just say hey dude, it's my birthday on so and so date, want to have dinner?

If she doesn't say it is her birthday and they stay together he'll probably remember later on that she went out with him on her birthday and didn't say it was her birthday. Or he'll ask her sometime soon, as all good boyfriends must, when is your birthday my heart of hearts so I can spoil you and, as a result, get blow jobs? I know I would (well except for the blow jobs part.) And she would say to me, well it was last week, you know, the night we went out. And I would think damn, that's fucked up.

2. What happens if you sleep in a whole bunch of different positions? I've woken up to find myself in virtually every one of these positions, though I seem to sleep on my stomach the most.

When I was a kid I frequently managed to turn myself upside down so my head ended up where my feet started the night, pillow and all.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-16-2003 11:27 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Started to wear a bra to bed when I started breastfeeding.
Does the brazenette not want to eat unless he gets a striptease first?

Replaced_Texan 09-16-2003 11:28 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Nope, just not capital "T" titted. When you get into the DD range (and I seem to recall some trouble in D too) pillow-top doesn't matter -- there isn't anywhere for the boobs to go and you are sleeping on lumps and it can be somewhat painful to that sensitive breast tissue. I have tried sleeping on my stomach with a pillow under me and it is still uncomfortable. Every woman I know with big 'uns (who I have asked about this) says the same thing. We all know what happens to your boobs when you lay on your back so ......
I'm not flat, and I don't have that much trouble sleeping on my stomach. Generally I'm on my side with my legs outstretched, and I'm clutching a pillow. One boob is definitely squished, which is probably why I like the pillow. The Displaced Dog and I have come to an agreement about who gets what parts of the bed. He's a reformed bed-hog, though sleeping arrangements will have to be revised in a few weeks when the Displaced Bitch joins the family.

dtb 09-16-2003 11:31 AM

A New Record
 
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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Started to wear a bra to bed when I started breastfeeding. I HATE IT. The nuimber one reason to wean in my book it to go back to sleeping bra-less...well, that, and the possibility that I may be able to see my toes over my boobies once these things deflate...

I am seriously considering breast reduction surgery once we've decided not to have any more little Brazens...thoughts, comments, cheap shots?
Mine took a while to deflate (like, more than a week -- but that was before my transformation into the new-and-improved, non-OCD dtb), and I considered it too! My doctor said -- uh, why don't you wait at least 6 months, and if they still haven't deflated, we'll talk. I even called around to get names of plastic surgeons -- a long way of saying, I can relate. (They deflated eventually, for those of you desperately wanting to know the conclusion to this riveting tale...)

However, on a slightly different note, eveyone I know who has had breast reduction surgery (all non-pregnancy-related) says it is the best decision she ever made and would encourage anyone who thinks she might want it to go for it. (n.b. -- breastfeeding is difficult or impossible for those who have had the procedure). It's a frustrating problem for many gals with large hooters, who are "out of proportion" (in their view) to the rest of their bodies, as diet/exercise go only so far in reducing the size if that's what Mother Nature (or your own mother, I suppose) gave you. Of course, many guys dig that "out-of-proportionness", but I guess it just depends on whom you're trying to please -- yourself, or some hooter-obsessed pervs. ;)


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