LawTalkers - Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ife_lottery_dc

(Spree: Man wins lottery, must forfeit winnings after jury determines ticket was bought with drug sale proceeds)

Replaced_Texan

06-09-2003 04:59 PM

Webbys

The webbys came out: http://www.webbyawards.com/main/webb.../nominees.html

I always like their "weird" category.

Jesus_Just_Left_Chicago

06-09-2003 05:05 PM

To Madame, with Lust

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Don't forget your original post.

Is this some kind of veiled sexual double entendre?!? robusto-pussy, do you have a savior fetish?!?!

I thought the cybersexing days of this board were a thing of the past, but if you are suggesting what I think you are suggesting I may have to go back and reread some of Lester's old messages to see how one of these deals is sealed. That and lay into a few dozen bottles of cheap booze.

Jesus (that's the Son of God to you!) Just left Chicago

robustpuppy

06-09-2003 05:10 PM

Hot for Teacher

Quote:

Originally posted by Jesus_Just_Left_Chicago
Is this some kind of veiled sexual double entendre?!?

Will you be workin' from one end to the other and all points in between?

Jesus_Just_Left_Chicago

06-09-2003 05:23 PM

Oh Cum All Ye Faithful

Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Will you be workin' from one end to the other and all points in between?

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh you all the way. And back again.

robustpuppy

06-09-2003 05:27 PM

Taking Care of Business Is His Name

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Originally posted by Jesus_Just_Left_Chicago
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh you all the way. And back again.

Sounds promising. And no worries about calling out the wrong name.

str8outavannuys

06-09-2003 05:57 PM

Unfair forfeiture ruling combined with abject stupidity

I can't believe that this guy collects $5.5 million in the lottery and THREE DAYS LATER gets busted for selling coke.

Of course, maybe he's one of those guys who was determined to keep it real and not let his new wealth change him one bit.

"I'm thrilled and blessed and thankful to have won the lottery. I might pay down some debts, buy my parents a new house, but I'm still the same old me. It's not like I'm about to quit my job. You'll still be able to find me where I've always been, selling coke out of the back of my uncle's ice house."

That said, I think it's wrong that lottery winnings are forfietable. I see the gov'ts argument -- if cars bought with drug monies are forfeited, then lottery tickets, win or lose, get forfeited too. I think there's a distinction in kind, but I can see both sides. I can't believe that this guy lost on the key factual issue -- how did the government prove beyond a reasonable doubt (it is a criminal standard, right, for forfeitures?) that the winning ticket was bought with drug money? That seems impossible. It seems impossible on a preponderance of the evidence standard. Maybe it's just that some Texas juries don't feel awful friendly towards convicted coke-peddlers. Still, this one leaves a bad taste in my mouth from a fairness perspective.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

06-09-2003 06:02 PM

Unfair forfeiture ruling combined with abject stupidity

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Originally posted by str8outavannuys

That said, I think it's wrong that lottery winnings are forfietable. I see the gov'ts argument -- if cars bought with drug monies are forfeited, then lottery tickets, win or lose, get forfeited too. I think there's a distinction in kind, but I can see both sides.

I don't know the law on forfeiture, but I don't think it's as high a standard as criminal. That's why the gov't likes it--because it's easier to take away the money than lock the guy up.

One reason to pursue lottery tickets is they've long been used as a method of money laundering. There was a case in Boston a number of years ago about one of the noted crime leaders (maybe Whitey Bulger) winning a significant prize on a scratcher ticket. The suspicion was that he had a bunch of his folks buy tons of scratcher tickets and then collect the small prizes, which are then "clean" money. Even though the gov't takes a 50% haircut, 50% clean is better than 100% dirty, I guess. Being Boston, no one tried to prosecute; of course, he fled to parts unknown before anyone could (thanks FBI informants!).

Jesus_Just_Left_Chicago

06-09-2003 06:12 PM

Don't Deny Me

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Sounds promising. And no worries about calling out the wrong name.

Truly I say to you that on any night of your choosing, before my cock crows, you shall cry Jesus three times!

taxwonk

06-09-2003 06:35 PM

Brigadoon

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Originally posted by London Joker
So THIS is where y'all have been hiding!

Are the gang all here?

Brit, Kafka, Chef, Bob, Paigow, etc.

Miss me?

xxx

Good to see you, old sot. How've you been?

taxwonk

06-09-2003 06:41 PM

Hot for Teacher

Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Will you be workin' from one end to the other and all points in between?

Slut.

Tax(it's over between us)wonk

evenodds

06-09-2003 06:59 PM

FB Book Club

I've closed the thread Leagl opened to solicit submissions for our Amazon affiliaton. This main thread continues to be the place to discuss books, etc.

To prove that I mean it, I am currently reading two wonderful books I highly recommend:

Life of Pi by Yann Martel (Booker Prize winner, now in paperback)
NYT review: http://query.nytimes.com/search/full...54C0A9649C8B63

The Portrait of Dr. Gachet: the Story of a van Gogh Masterpiece, Money, Politics, Collectors, Greed and Loss by Cynthia Saltzman
NYT Review: http://query.nytimes.com/search/full...57C0A96E958260

SlaveNoMore

06-09-2003 07:13 PM

Timing is everything

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str8outavannuys
I can't believe that this guy collects $5.5 million in the lottery and THREE DAYS LATER gets busted for selling coke.

Buying - yes.

Selling - no, that is definitely odd.

not7yS

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