Nice fake. You post something - and I assume that, when you post a Dem rant, you're doing it for some reason aside from convincing us that that particular ranter is nuts - whose main point is, we never said that! And, of course, that's exactly the theme that's been pushed by you ("you" is the overarching liberal Bush-hating solution-avoiding big-city mass) all these many months. But, did you ("you" here means, well, you - Ty) ever say those exact words? Don't remember, but I certainly remember you saying, over and over and over, that, gosh, maybe all of those good things might someday happen, and I ("I" here meaning, me, Bilmore) must be far more optimistic than you, 'cuz, well, you just couldn't see it, given the idiot we had in charge.

For you to come here and say anything even remotely resembling "well, I always said it would all work. or at least I never poo-pooed it" is just funny. ("Funny" here means, complete and arrant bullshit.)

She does punctuation, not logic. Be kind.

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2. And isn't it "Happy Thanksgiving".

That's right, Hanky. Follow b's shining example.

don't get hoodwinked. It is said that Mein Kampf was written in long-hand and without any misspellings or grammar errors.

Good grammar does not equal good content.

What a non-responsive pile of crap this was. I'm sorry I wasted fourteen seconds of my life reading it.

Yeah Ty! Even though most people say you're at fault for the board being dead, you're not. You are not at fault- of course not. I have decided to quit this board because of you, but I'm sure......well actually I do think your intellectual dishonesty combined with your toadies acting like you make sense have killed the board. Bye.

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If you're going to suck Bush's cock, do it in 2 paragraphs or less. And leave me out of it.

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"Backpedaling"? "Like _we_ keep trumpeting in the theme that is the sole essence of _our_ party."? I see you still can't seem to break out of your habit of viewing groups of people as undifferentiated masses.

Nice. Keep on believing that. If you do, you'll be sitting there wondering "What happened" after my party hands you your ass.

You are on record as saying that it is honorable and defensible to belive that Bush was negligent in his rationale for taking us into the Iraq war. I do take that position, and I believe that his handling of much of it thereafter has been incompetent as well.(particularly the first year). Mission Accomplished!

So, its honorable and defensible, but still makes you see red, hmm? Well, I'll have to reconsider my entire philosophy after hearing such well-considered criticism from a neutral observer like yourself.

You know, you're right, B. Its all good.

S_A_M

P.S. It cracks me up that the Dems being successful at demagoguing Bush pisses you off so much. Since Lee Atwater, your party has made a living at doing the same damn thing -- its a big piece of how the GOP has been so damn successful in national campaigns since then. The Dems were much slower and worse at it -- not sufficiently disciplined and organized to do it well until motivated by minority party status.

You think you're better than that, spend time talking about Bush's "honor." Fucking hilarious.

You know, I think the big, resignation flounce-out would be more effective, and more justified if you had done something better than the crap you criticize.

Its been too long since you've even tried. So quit already, if the last year is the best you can do.

S_A_M

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So, since I can't substantively engage the former member of CREEP - 2004 style -- what do you think about the permanent campaign point in my post?

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STP

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I don't agree with it. Campaign mode to me means that you are always looking to the next election, and the elections are more important than policy. Constanly gauging public opinion etc.

I think the Clinton administration was in permanent campaign mode. Clinton was definitely very concerned with elections. This was very clear form his turn around after the 94 election disaster and his run to the arms of Dick Morris. Clinton changed his policy to get reelected.

With Bush, Policy trumps politics. Bush sticks to what he believes in and tries to get the country to go along with what he believes in. You may not like what he believes in, but I think it is totally erroneous to say that he is in permanent campaign mode because his policy is very consistent.

I think he is in permanent sell. He knows exactly what his policy is and is always trying to sell it. And he does a pretty good job of it. But if public opinion turns against him, he changes his selling tactics but never his policy.

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BTW - I worked full time on 2000 but was just a volunteer consultant on 2004.

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I don't remember giving you permission to leave the board!!!!!!!!.

First Sidd left, and I was still trying to formulate his punishment and then Penske left. My operatives will hit him right after Sidd. It may take me a while, but if you leave I will get you also. My recommendation is that you don't make the same mistake as Sidd and Penske. They will soon regret their decision.

Don't force my hand. I don't want to have to get nasty in the Holiday season.