Originally Posted by Adder (Post 465310)

And now they are allegedly backtracking, thus having pissed off both groups.

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 465301)

Most men don't do anything. Yeah, we'll bitch. The decision certainly irked me, and I told a few people I thought it sucked, and we all agreed it did. But being a typical male, I became interested in something else and forgot about it.

Women actually pick up the phone and do things. And thank God for that.

Shaking your head in disagreement? Well, tell me... Have you seen national testicular cancer awareness weeks? Seen any skyscrapers with huge inflatable testicles put on either side of the shaft to ensure no one forgets about that cancer? That'd be a hell of a compelling image, no? Folks would sure as shit remember that. But for more reasons than possible offense of local obscenity laws, you're never going to see it. Why? Because it's a disease that kills guys. And guys are lazy. For that reason, when this woman says Komen's reversal was "women helping women," I have to grudgingly agree.

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 465293)

It's not the credit I care about, but the example. More men might stand up for women in situations such as this, if they knew that more men already did so.

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 465301)

Most men don't do anything. Yeah, we'll bitch. The decision certainly irked me, and I told a few people I thought it sucked, and we all agreed it did. But being a typical male, I became interested in something else and forgot about it.

Women actually pick up the phone and do things. And thank God for that.

Shaking your head in disagreement? Well, tell me... Have you seen national testicular cancer awareness weeks? Seen any skyscrapers with huge inflatable testicles put on either side of the shaft to ensure no one forgets about that cancer? That'd be a hell of a compelling image, no? Folks would sure as shit remember that. But for more reasons than possible offense of local obscenity laws, you're never going to see it. Why? Because it's a disease that kills guys. And guys are lazy. For that reason, when this woman says Komen's reversal was "women helping women," I have to grudgingly agree.

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 465314)

Isn't Movember supposed to be for prostate cancer awareness?

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 465312)

Bloomberg kicked in 250k. Seems to qualify as "doing something." Lots of men made calls, emails, etc. Did men do as much -- or nearly as much -- as women? No. But your email illustrates the problem I was talking about, the sense that "men do nothing, so, well, I'll do nothing."

Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 465307)

I wouldn't call them "sick tickets" but rather people who feel very very storngly about abortion -- in fact the very same group of people in the religious right the GOP courts do make that kind of decision.

My brother boycotted* Target for years because among the zillions of dollars of donations they made, some was to Planned Parenthood -- I think even specifically targeted to community health or something non-abortion. His thinking was that donations to support non-abortion functions leaves more undesignated funds to be used for abortion.

There are people who feel very strongly about supporting -- even very tangentially -- an organization that does abortions. And there are people who feel equally as strongly about supporting an organization that would not fund PP's health services. Because there are plenty of options for charitable giving, people in each of those groups are entitled to act on their beliefs. The Komen executives badly misjudged which of those two groups provides most of its funding.

*By not shopping there, he didn't demonstrate or anything.

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 465316)

I shudder to consider what symbol might be used for that campaign. Would people wear latex gloves to show solidarity? ("Save your life - get a finger up the arse regularly!") If only one glove, this may be confused with nostalgic enthusiasm for Michael Jackson.

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 465304)

OK, you've convinced me. I'm going to buy a couple of big balloons and ask the window-washing guy to attach them to my window.

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 465316)

I shudder to consider what symbol might be used for that campaign. Would people wear latex gloves to show solidarity? ("Save your life - get a finger up the arse regularly!") If only one glove, this may be confused with nostalgic enthusiasm for Michael Jackson.

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 465313)

There are quite a few men who I know that are active supporters of Planned Parenthood without having the women in their lives prompting them. One of my friends originally saw the young professionals events (though neither of us can really be called "young" anymore) as a great place to meet like-minded women. His involvment over the years has been so great that he is now on the board of directors (of the affiliate, which is the largest in the nation, I think, not the young leaders group).

The outgoing President and CEO of our affilate (27 years) is one of the more remarkable men I've ever known, and I'm truly sad to see him retire. I'm very glad I like his replacement as much as I do, but Peter will be missed dearly.

That said, I'd say a good 70 percent of the attendees at the Roe v. Wade luncheon last week were women, and almost all of the men that went were with a spouse or partner or mother. Or they were politicans who wouldn't miss that luncheon for the world (it's the largest luncheon in Houston, I think about 2000 people attend).

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 465314)

Isn't Movember supposed to be for prostate cancer awareness?

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 465313)

There are quite a few men who I know that are active supporters of Planned Parenthood without having the women in their lives prompting them. One of my friends originally saw the young professionals events (though neither of us can really be called "young" anymore) as a great place to meet like-minded women. His involvment over the years has been so great that he is now on the board of directors (of the affiliate, which is the largest in the nation, I think, not the young leaders group).

The outgoing President and CEO of our affilate (27 years) is one of the more remarkable men I've ever known, and I'm truly sad to see him retire. I'm very glad I like his replacement as much as I do, but Peter will be missed dearly.

That said, I'd say a good 70 percent of the attendees at the Roe v. Wade luncheon last week were women, and almost all of the men that went were with a spouse or partner or mother. Or they were politicans who wouldn't miss that luncheon for the world (it's the largest luncheon in Houston, I think about 2000 people attend).

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 465269)

Ever use one of those provisions to seize vested pension benefits?

Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 465328)

The whole point why the pension was preserved is because he resigned before they could fire him.