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Replaced_Texan 06-17-2010 02:51 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 426584)
I had lunch today with former co-workers, whose little bit of shop talk made me never want to work again.

Especially as I am about to go watch soccer at a bar!

The French and Mexican (more Mexican than French, I think, but I'm ridiculously biased in this game) fans have made a valiant effort to sing over the din of the vuvuzulas. I think they may be winning.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-17-2010 02:55 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 426585)
The French and Mexican (more Mexican than French, I think, but I'm ridiculously biased in this game) fans have made a valiant effort to sing over the din of the vuvuzulas. I think they may be winning.

The Argentine fans seemed to be getting past the vuvuzelas this morning. That, or ESPN has used an equalizer to cut out sound at the vuvuzela frequency. Oh, and you could hear a pin drop at the end of yesterday's RSA-Uruguay match.

Pretty Little Flower 06-17-2010 03:01 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 426560)
I agree with you, but for whatever reasons I find it increasingly hard to care about two sports I grew up with, football and basketball, and spend more and more of my time watching a sport I didn't grow up watching, soccer. I barely watch the NFL at all anymore. I spent the night outside the Boston Garden once to get SRO tickets for the playoffs, and now I just can't really be bothered to care whether they win tonight. I mean, I care some, but just not that much. OTOH, I'm willing to go without much sleep in order to see, e.g., New Zealand-Slovakia.

But I don't think my experience is typical.

Well, my experience is more like yours, although I still care a bit about basketball when it involves memories of the great rivalry of my youth. ;) Also, I started playing soccer ten or twelve years ago after not playing since high school, which is what got me interested in watching it. Just as I am sure there are some British adults who have become passionate MLB fans.

LessinSF 06-17-2010 03:03 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 426570)
So perfect games are exciting because they are rare. And no-hitters?

As noted, a perfect game is not a scoreless tie. The other side still won at least 1-0. And there have only been 21 (?) in history.

Pretty Little Flower 06-17-2010 03:06 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 426584)
I had lunch today with former co-workers, whose little bit of shop talk made me never want to work again.

Especially as I am about to go watch soccer at a bar!

Me too!

Tyrone Slothrop 06-17-2010 03:08 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426566)
It would be like cheering for the Nazi players in Victory, or something.

I was thinking that rooting for Brazil is like rooting for the tanks to crush that guy in Tienanmen Square.

Cletus Miller 06-17-2010 03:17 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 426590)
I was thinking that rooting for Brazil is like rooting for the tanks to crush that guy in Tienanmen Square.

Except if the tanks are being driven by half naked women and the guy in the square is a completely insane dictator.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-17-2010 03:23 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 426591)
Except if the tanks are being driven by half naked women and the guy in the square is a completely insane dictator.

This has Scinemax written all over it. Or Formula 1 commissioner shenanigans.

Adder 06-17-2010 03:40 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 426585)
The French and Mexican (more Mexican than French, I think, but I'm ridiculously biased in this game) fans have made a valiant effort to sing over the din of the vuvuzulas. I think they may be winning.

The horns don't really bother me. As background noise goes I don't think it's that much better or worse th
an the usual.

Also, who would root for France?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-17-2010 03:42 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426583)
Does it matter? Would it be better with more vuvuzela?

More vulva.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-17-2010 04:08 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 426594)
More vulva.

Mulva?

TM

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-17-2010 04:11 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 426587)
Well, my experience is more like yours, although I still care a bit about basketball when it involves memories of the great rivalry of my youth. ;) Also, I started playing soccer ten or twelve years ago after not playing since high school, which is what got me interested in watching it. Just as I am sure there are some British adults who have become passionate MLB fans.

I grew up playing soccer. It is still my most favorite sport to play.

I love watching the World Cup, but I just can't seem to get interested in soccer at any other time.

Fugee 06-17-2010 04:14 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 426580)
Third, I fail to understand Fugee's notion, or your notion, that a scoreless game is good if there were lots of attempts on goals but not otherwise. Actually, I do understand it -- it's a statement by someone who does not understand the game at all, and cannot recognize that a scoreless game can well be a product of a good offense failing to overcome a good defense.

I don't understand soccer so maybe a scoreless game can be interesting without many attempts on goals.

But I do understand hockey and a scoreless hockey game with few shots on goal would be less interesting for me even if it was because of excellent defense. What can I say -- I like to see people trying to score goals.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-17-2010 04:14 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 426593)
Also, who would root for France?

The Arizona legislature.

Adder 06-17-2010 04:19 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426598)
The Arizona legislature.

Tom Tancredo may be the one guy in this watering hole dressed in blue.

Meanwhile there are two attractive youn ladies at the bar next to me to whom I am not talking. Pathetic.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-17-2010 04:31 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 426585)
The French and Mexican (more Mexican than French, I think, but I'm ridiculously biased in this game) fans have made a valiant effort to sing over the din of the vuvuzulas. I think they may be winning.

I predict a shockingly boring tie between Mexico and Uruguay next week.

Replaced_Texan 06-17-2010 04:36 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426600)
I predict a shockingly boring tie between Mexico and Uruguay next week.

I *heart* Maradona.

Gattigap 06-17-2010 04:39 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 426585)
The French and Mexican (more Mexican than French, I think, but I'm ridiculously biased in this game) fans have made a valiant effort to sing over the din of the vuvuzulas. I think they may be winning.

AoN, just had lunch in a bar here in LA to watch the game, and found the crowd to be enormously and boisterously pro-Mexico (or, at least, anti-France, an issue on which I am sure we can all mainly agree.)

Replaced_Texan 06-17-2010 04:44 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 426602)
AoN, just had lunch in a bar here in LA to watch the game, and found the crowd to be enormously and boisterously pro-Mexico (or, at least, anti-France, an issue on which I am sure we can all mainly agree.)

A few days ago, I was moaning and groaning that poor Mexico had no one rooting for them in that first game against SA. My incredulous boyfriend looked at me and when he regained his power of speech, said "there are 45 million people in this country alone that are rooting for Mexico." "Oh. Right."

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-17-2010 04:44 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 426601)
I *heart* Maradona.

But will you like him in the second round?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-17-2010 04:51 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 426602)
AoN, just had lunch in a bar here in LA to watch the game, and found the crowd to be enormously and boisterously pro-Mexico (or, at least, anti-France, an issue on which I am sure we can all mainly agree.)

Which is why U.S.-Mexico WC qualifiers are played in such locales as Columbus, Ohio.

Hank Chinaski 06-17-2010 04:53 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426586)
The Argentine fans seemed to be getting past the vuvuzelas this morning.

I thought that was something the fans were doing themselves. where does it come from?

Hank Chinaski 06-17-2010 05:03 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426605)
Which is why U.S.-Mexico WC qualifiers are played in such locales as Columbus, Ohio.

but say if there are only 1000 Mexican people there- they still are likely the only 1000 people who care.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-17-2010 05:03 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426604)
But will you like him in the second round?

Will you like him fried or boiled?
Will you like him poached or broiled?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-17-2010 05:04 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 426606)
I thought that was something the fans were doing themselves. where does it come from?

Vulvas. It's one long choreographed queef.

Sidd Finch 06-17-2010 05:08 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426583)
Does it matter? Would it be better with more vuvuzela?

I expect TM to keep updating. Breasticle Day II involved new breasts, not the same pics from BD-I. There were good reasons for that.

Sidd Finch 06-17-2010 05:09 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 426588)
As noted, a perfect game is not a scoreless tie. The other side still won at least 1-0. And there have only been 21 (?) in history.

So the exciting part of the perfect game is all the runs scored by the winning team?

Woo-hoo! Another walk!

Sidd Finch 06-17-2010 05:10 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 426597)
I don't understand soccer so maybe a scoreless game can be interesting without many attempts on goals.

But I do understand hockey and a scoreless hockey game with few shots on goal would be less interesting for me even if it was because of excellent defense. What can I say -- I like to see people trying to score goals.

Yeah, in a scoreless soccer game no one is even trying to score goals. It's mostly passing practice.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-17-2010 05:17 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 426612)
Yeah, in a scoreless soccer game no one is even trying to score goals. It's mostly passing practice.

Get back to me after Uruguay/Mexico.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-17-2010 05:26 PM

ziduzela
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426586)
The Argentine fans seemed to be getting past the vuvuzelas this morning.

http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/...zzzzzidane.gif

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 06-17-2010 05:36 PM

Floppage
 
For RT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-9RF...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzeKi...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Ht_...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCX9Q...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKo_...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r7vz...layer_embedded

For Gatti:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqPBJ...layer_embedded

TM

Pretty Little Flower 06-17-2010 05:38 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426613)
Get back to me after Uruguay/Mexico.

This could happen, but if you're Mexico, don't you think you can take the win and claim top seed. It could make a big difference in who you face in the knockout round. But who knows, maybe it will be a tea party.

I think there is something about a culture of playing for ties that may be more prevalent now, at least with some teams. I understand why Portugal and Ivory Coast would be content with a tie, although it seems that by not playing for the win, you are just deferring the inevitable(unless they think they can knock off Brazil). If I were either team, I would much rather go out hard gamble on a first round win than hope that I can beat North Korea by more goals than the other team can (or lose to Brazil by fewer goals). What really got me was the last play of the game. Ivory Coast has a corner and time has essentially run out. If they swing it in toward net, there is a decent possibility they could score the last second goal and snatch a heroic victory. The downside risk is the almost infinitessimal chance that Portugal will somehow intercept the corner, take it down the field and score in a half second. Instead, they play the corner short and the game is over. Why? Have soccer teams gotten so conservative that the one in a thousand chance Portugal can counterattack with a half second left outweighs the one in ten chance that you can score off the corner and be sitting pretty in the group of death. If so, then pansies like S-G E are indeed making the game more boring.

Pretty Little Flower 06-17-2010 05:39 PM

Re: ziduzela
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 426614)

That is awesome.

Pretty Little Flower 06-17-2010 05:43 PM

Re: Floppage
 
After Ronaldo's tenth flop in the Portugal-Ivory Coast match, one commentator noted that it appeared that he might go down with a "puff of wind."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H2I3CuZxnE

Atticus Grinch 06-17-2010 06:04 PM

Re: ziduzela
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thurgreedmarshall (Post 426614)

people keep insisting that soccer is very popular, but the only people i have ever seen play it are kids and frenchmen.

-- @jjonahjameson

Fugee 06-17-2010 06:11 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 426612)
Yeah, in a scoreless soccer game no one is even trying to score goals. It's mostly passing practice.

OK to clarify: I like to see people getting close enough to the net/goal to take shots on goal. Happy now?

Sidd Finch 06-17-2010 07:30 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 426620)
OK to clarify: I like to see people getting close enough to the net/goal to take shots on goal. Happy now?

Yes. You've moved beyond silly statements to acknowledging that you view excellent defense as boring.

Unless, apparently, that defense occurs in a baseball game and takes four fucking hours.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-17-2010 07:36 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 426600)
I predict a shockingly boring tie between Mexico and Uruguay next week.

Who then wins the tiebreaker for first place in the group and who do they each then play?

Cletus Miller 06-17-2010 07:45 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 426622)
Who then wins the tiebreaker for first place in the group and who do they each then play?

Um, Uruguay? B/c of their better goal differential? Or is this a trick question?

Tyrone Slothrop 06-17-2010 07:52 PM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 426623)
Um, Uruguay? B/c of their better goal differential? Or is this a trick question?

I am sitting in an airport lounge and didn't know. So who would they each play next?


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