And now for something interesting.
 

Penske, you said you weren't socking anymore. Liar liar pants on fire.

Photo Retouch Fun
 

Speaking of retouched photos, who's picture is on the cover of Hillary Clinton's new book:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/07...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.ijohn.com/images/lying_hillary.jpg

Question about sex
 

I have a question.

If you are in bed with someone really good looking (really good looking, not just cute) and that person's technique is not all that good, do they get a pass just because they are devastatingly beautiful/handsome? Or would you criticize them to your friends just as much when they are gone as you would someone not so good looking and equally lame in bed?

SL/FL
 

Anyone catch the Sorority and Fraternity Life premieres?

SL: Don't think I'll be watching it this season. Only one of the girls (Meena, the dance troupe one) is even moderately attractive. The pledge mom disturbs me as she looks like a 50-year-old old maid schoolmarm/librarian type and a lot like the neighbor that I loathe (READ THE DAMN HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION RULES!!!) . They also skipped the rush process for this one, so I am less interested in the pledges. The "Even though I was talking loudly ouside your door at 2:30 in the morning, the fact that you asked me to quiet down shows that you are disrespectful of the sisters" bit cracks me up every time.

FL: Much more entertaining. While I think the cast would be more attractive with fewer piercings (lots of nostrils and eyebrows), they are at least fun to watch. While it won't be aired. 2 of the guys are being prosecuted for catching and cooking (and eating I believe) some really old koi that was some big campus tradition or something.

Photo Retouch Timmy
 

whose indeed.

O'Canada
 

I was attempting to make a joke -- i.e. that Canadians are purists about their hockey and that no one anywhere wants Californians moving in on them -- much less Californian hockey dads. Obviously my lame attempt fell flatter than LFB's breasticles. Oh well, back to my "How to Tell a Joke" correspondence course.

Question about sex
 

THey do not get a pass. In fact, they are judged even more harshly due to the fact that their extreme good-looking-ness should have affoded them more opportunity to hone their technique.

Being bad in bed is inexcusable. No one is safe from the friend critique...

Survivor XXXVI
 

Once upon a time I worked in a battered women's shelter, and one of the women I worked with had a crazy ex who happened to be in law enforcment. Every time she tried to move elsewhere, the guy would put out a search for her and he'd track her down within a month, bring her home, and beat the shit out of her. The woman was a mortician by trade, but she was pretty sure that she'd have to give that up because he'd just end up tracking her through the licensure process.

Anyhow, she was asking me about her options, and since he was pretty persistant, she was thinking about trying to change her identity so he couldn't track her down. I couldn't really advise her on anything other than the legal aspects of changing her name and restraining orders. While I was explaining the name change process, she blurted out "I know a lot of dead people and their information and stuff, can we use any of that?" I told her that we couldn't use someone else's information, and continued with my little lecture on the name change process. She left a few days later, and I have no idea what happened to her. I wouldn't be surprised if one of her former clients had a miraculous recovery.

Question about sex
 

A dull fuck is a dull fuck. I might be willing to devote more resources to training with someone really good looking, though.

Question about sex
 

Would you rather have your star pitcher throw a 95 mile an hour fast ball that he can't get over the plate or a 80 something change up that he can place just where he wants it? (Because every good sex question deserves a sports metaphor).

The ones who waste a natural talent are a tragedy. The ones who do the most with what they are given deserve praise (and to be called on to pitch a few more games).


Editted to (Belatedly) Avoid a Timmy Rush (thanks, GWNCY)

Question about sex
 

It is only fair to criticize them more, since their good looks created false expectations. And because you are entitled to SOME fun out of the deal.

Question about sex
 

Now most of my baseball knowledge was gained on the day Darryl Strawberry played for the Springfield Isotopes, but I think I get your drift. (However I think your use of apostrophes might cause a few timmies on the board to implode. Might I suggest the "edit" function).

Question about sex
 

I don't think so. If you've slept with a REALLY hot girl, and your buddies say "man you're lucky -- I'd love to fuck her", the normal response is "trust me - nothing to write home to mom about - she was a terrible lay"...In fact I've heard this quite frequently.

Unfortunately you really can never tell. Mild-mannered Susie could be a fuck-beast, while drinking, smoking hot Tara could lay there like a stiff board...

In fact, it's usually the cute but not uber-hot girls that absolutely go ape-shit in the sack.

Question about sex
 

I am going to guess that pretty much everyone is going to say that they'd not get a pass, but they'd actually invite the person back to bed because he or she is so fucking hot. I mean, don't we all get that much more excited to fuck someone because we're really, really attracted to them? Attractiveness adds to the whole thing, otherwise we'd be asking for references instead of just trying to jump the bones of the hotties that we see. Sure, if nothing improves after a few tries, and you're getting bored, we'll be more willing to move on, but I'm pretty sure that the hotties that aren't any good in bed, in general, get more time to try out than the non-hotties. (Note: non-hotties doesn't mean unattractive, just not in that 0.01 percent).

Question about sex Timmy
 

The ones indeed.

Thanks, RP and fringey for passing this OCD on to me.

Question about sex
 

No guy* walks on a really beautiful women because she's too passive, uncreative etc, at least not for a few months. This is because of to the whole question of what is "good" from a guy's perspective. See monolouge on subject in Clerks.

*Except for largely hypothetical people or stars who have a revolving door of the really beautiful.

Did you just pull this out of your ass, or do you base this on personal experience?

I, for one, keep my cars in impeccable condition. I will not be seen driving a rat. Maintenance is usually included (free oil changes, inspections, etc.). I even wax said leased car and condition the leather.
They inspect the car when you turn it in - they don't, however, check to see wheter you've kept proper inflation. But they do check for "undue wear." Not to be confused with underwear.
All maintenance is tracked in the computer, FYI.

There are as many people who ignore maintenance on their "purchased" cars - check any used car lot.

Question about sex
 

Why criticize? If you didn't like it, don't go back.

Question about sex
 

I was wondering this. I don't tend to criticize my bed partners' abilities to other people for the most part.

I also will normally give someone several chances. The first time is awkward enough.

But no, no one gets a pass for being beautiful. No more than she would get a pass for being beautiful but an asshole or vapid. I wouldn't be interested.

Question about sex
 

Good point. But people tend to talk about this stuff even if they don't go back.

Leases vary. Maintenace is not included in many leases, but certainly my time to take the car in and leave it for awhile is not included. If its a car I own, I might be more likely to do so. Also, changing the oil and other maintenance can be done at places not tied to the dealers computer. They do inspect the car, but you can usually argue them out of much of what they'll try and charge you for. So I'm comfortable with my post. I hadn't thought of my theory until reading the post I replied to, so I guess I did pull the theory out of my ass as you say.

Question about sex
 

I have an answer.

They get a pass the first time. At least if you're a guy they do, because she's so fucking hot that it doesn't really matter. After that, she gets ridiculed behind her back. And eventually her hotness means nothing because, what's the point? Sure, your friends say, "DAMN she's hot. But you then have to say, "Sure. But the bitch can't screw and she gives lousy head." And they nod their heads thinking to themselves that they'd like to get a shot so they could confirm.

There is nothing worse than someone who doesn't know how to fuck.

TM

I feel so special
 

I am devastated. I thought part of the reason a modern, civilized society allows single-sex educational institutions to persist is the hope that one day, when we are rich, fat and impotent, the trophy wife will regale us with stories of the brief shining moments she was a LUG art history major.

Question about sex
 

It's a public service announcements. Friends don't let friends bed dopes.

Car discussion Timmy
 

If it's a car you own indeed.

Question about sex
 

In my experience, post mortems tend to be reserved for one (OK, maybe two) night stands, not long term partners. Since you are willing to give extra chances, by definition, your partners don't fall into this category.

IMHO, it would be rude to date someone, allow one's friends to get to know her, and then trash her performance in bed just b/c things didn't work out in the long run.

I feel so special
 

No, honey. She'll have long since gone back to the source for some action, and won't be regaling you with play-by-plays.

Isabel
 

Just to be serious for a moment, as I see the impact of Isabel starting to become more prominent here, everyone please stay safe tonight and tomorrow.

If you aren't Burger, don't go watching for flying signs, Burger can duck in time. You probably can't.

And no driving your cars into puddles that don't look deep but are. We all know where that leads. Especially if you lease your car. The owner would be most put out.

Question about sex
 

Isn't that true of all hot people? That they're more selfish and self centered and therefore bad in bed? Plus - who needs to be good when people are thowing themselves at you. Who's going to be there to tell you how bad you are when you can just go out and get someone new. Oh, the tragedy of being beautiful.

Car discussion Timmy
 

What was that drug again for the OCD? Oh yeah, that's right. Behavior modification. Handcuff your hands to your office chair, read all the post's from people's whose dont' know how to use appostrophes' and see how long it take's you to chew through the armrest's.

Isabel
 

Speaking of hurricanes, where is Paigow today?

Question about sex
 

It's true of some, but not all. The hottest guy I've ever slept with was also the best.

Dude. I miss him. Memories.

That increases somewhat the value you receive by paying for the steeper depreciation during that period, but it has no effect on the Magliozzi thesis that the annual cost of maintenance (whether you pay it or someone else does) remains pretty consistent over time.

This issue is irrelevant to the lease v. buy debate --- I just wanted to address the widespread myth that the cost of keeping a old car running is an upward slope. It's not. The general trend line is flat; I think the Magliozzis found the average was about $800/yr or something for repairs and maintenance. You might not have repairs one year, and get hit for $1,600 the next, but it stays a relatively flat line.

If you budget --- and bank --- that for each year you own the car, you will probably keep it running to 150,000 miles or much more. The point is to debunk the idea that a car reaches a critical juncture at which the annual cost goes above that average and that you're doing yourself some kind of financial favor for getting rid of the car (i.e., "Dump it before it really starts costing you money.") All of this analysis occurs outside the warranty window.

I've heard the Magliozzis say on the radio that, cost aside, reliability is a legitimate reason to dump a car --- if you can't stand the risk of breaking down by the side of the road, you should bear the additional cost of always being early in a car's life cycle. But again, this doesn't require that repair costs jump in year 8 or 10 like most people think they do. The Magliozzis concluded that the supposed jump was something people tell themselves on the showroom floor to convince themselves to do something they want to do but don't need to do, i.e., buy a new car when the old one is still running.

Question about sex
 

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski

While I doubt as many of the menfolk as the womenfolk would hit the road due to a denial of, or inability at, oral sex, I bet there are some.

Isabel
 

Speaking of hurricanes, thanks to the Phillies coming from behind and spanking the Marlins (oh, HAHA -- you pervs), the Braves have clinched their 12th division title.

Carry on.

Question about sex
 

This has been my experience, but I'd like to increase the sample size of the uber-hot. To be scientific, and all.

Isabel
 

Seriously. We've got rain here and we are at least 1100 miles away from the eye. I'm wondering if Burger and fringey saw the pic on the cnn homepage today that showed someone using a Dead End sign as an umbrella. I'm sure when the wind gusted, hilarity ensued!

Isabel
 

As there is still nothing serious going on here yet. Just another rainy, windy day. Really, its just a perfect day to stay home from work and have sex all day.

That is, if you aren't me.

At least we're getting back to the sex talk.

Hey Macarena
 

Cheffie: [request for coitus interruptus storeis]

NFH: Two words: Hotel Housecleaning

NCS: Three words: Do Not Disturb

Actually, two words: Door chain.