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notcasesensitive 09-23-2003 11:46 AM

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I caught all of the following last night --

Sorority Life season premiere -- I cannot buy that a senior in college would seriously put herself through the rush/pledge process and bullshit for only one semester of "sisterhood". The woman who is doing it says that is common in black fraternities/sororities (because it is thought of as a life-long bond). Anyone know if this is true? Seems to me more likely that she wanted her mug on tv.

Fraternity Life season premiere -- I didn't get into this show last year, but this season actually looks kinda interesting to me. I liked that the brothers sent a spy in to see what the pledges really thought about rushing. Obviously the gay guy will get a bid despite the pledge of the guy with multiple face piercings that he won't let the guy in "his" fraternity.

Real World/Road Rules Challenge preview -- looks like more of the same old bickering and drama. Sign me up!

Newlyweds -- The spoiled freaks seemed more normal than usual while visiting Cincinnati.


All this, and I watched the Raiders get decimated by the Broncos at the same time. Multitasking.

bilmore 09-23-2003 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
You can imagine the crush of disappointment I felt when I read the post and then read the author. I think I may have to use that post as the gleaming example of what it takes to be Bilmore of the day. not tht people should be competing for this as I have already explained.
We all have our roles to play here, and it's comforting to see so many adhering so religiously to script.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-23-2003 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive



All this, and I watched the Raiders get decimated by the Broncos at the same time. Multitasking.
Timmy says: the Broncos destroyed 10% of the Raiders?

evenodds 09-23-2003 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
The woman who is doing it says that is common in black fraternities/sororities (because it is thought of as a life-long bond). Anyone know if this is true?
I had friends pledge Omega when they were in law school and the OM was recruited heavily by the Kappas throughout his time in college. If they thought they could get him now, they would still try. They have a special graduate membership, though I cannot remember what it is called.

Even(Hi, Coltrane!!!!!!!)Odds

Not Bob 09-23-2003 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
BTW... I got creamed this week playing fast and loose with other people's words. I'm still smarting. Judge got sooo fucking serious on my ass. This field can be sooo fucking gay. Everyone takes everything so toolishly serious. Its all just silly paper pushing and throwing words about in the air.
Yeah. I hate it when that happens. I mean, so freaking what that Piggly-Wiggly has millions (well, ok, thousands...uh, fine, hundreds -- happy?) of dollars at stake when I go into a trial. So what if I say in opening that "any moron blind enough not to see moldy banana goo on the floor by aisle two deserves what he gets"? Or that I insert the word "not" into the causation portion of the transcript of the plaintiff's expert's depo?

Judges. They can be so anal about that stuff.

robustpuppy 09-23-2003 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Judges. They can be so anal about that stuff.
Not Bob,

I believe the proper expression is "sooo f-ing anal."

R(SD Timmy)P

P.S. Always love to see the Rockford avatar.

notcasesensitive 09-23-2003 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Timmy says: the Broncos destroyed 10% of the Raiders?
Thanks, Tim. Dictionary.com says --

dec·i·mate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ds-mt)
tr.v. dec·i·mat·ed, dec·i·mat·ing, dec·i·mates
1. To destroy or kill a large part of (a group).
Usage Problem.
To inflict great destruction or damage on: The fawns decimated my rose bushes.
2. To reduce markedly in amount: a profligate heir who decimated his trust fund.
3. To select by lot and kill one in every ten of.


I guess I was loosely using meaning one. But thanks for broadening my knowledge of the background of the word...

evenodds 09-23-2003 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Timmy says: the Broncos destroyed 10% of the Raiders?
Of course, a true Timmy knows that you can only decimate your own ranks, not your opponents.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-23-2003 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Thanks, Tim. Dictionary.com says --

dec·i·mate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ds-mt)
tr.v. dec·i·mat·ed, dec·i·mat·ing, dec·i·mates
1. To destroy or kill a large part of (a group).
Usage Problem.
To inflict great destruction or damage on: The fawns decimated my rose bushes.
2. To reduce markedly in amount: a profligate heir who decimated his trust fund.
3. To select by lot and kill one in every ten of.


I guess I was loosely using meaning one. But thanks for broadening my knowledge of the background of the word...
No no, I think you Timmied my Timmy. Nicely done.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-23-2003 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive


I guess I was loosely using meaning one. But thanks for broadening my knowledge of the background of the word...
When talking about sports, you should feel free to use words improperly, like ironic. Or make them up, like trickeration. It's all part of the game.

You may also do this in the courtroom, if you're a cool cat.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-23-2003 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds
Of course, a true Timmy knows that you can only decimate your own ranks, not your opponents.
decimate only your own ranks indeed.

paigowprincess 09-23-2003 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds


Even(Hi, Coltrane!!!!!!!)Odds
Off my corner, Ho.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-23-2003 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess

and I have to ask, did your pied piper of cows experience convert you to a non cow eater?
No, but after listening to a recent discussion on the Food Revolution, I may start. How can I get meat that isn't from the U.S.? I don't want all those 'roids and antibiotics and growth hormones in my meat. Is free range the answer, or is that meat juiced up as well?

paigowprincess 09-23-2003 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Not Bob,

I believe the proper expression is "sooo f-ing anal."

R(SD Timmy)P

P.S. Always love to see the Rockford avatar.
I love this new role you have of SD monitor. I am enjoying it so much that I started to post something about how great it was to see a "lawyers are losers who play Dungeons andDragons " rant by SD when I realized I would be stepping on your turf. I applaud your work in this area for its humor and originality, and also for its backdoor tribute to a classic poster. Much like my Bilmore award, yet totally not like it at all. I think you should take it to the next level, whatever that is, and only you can decide. Because you are Not Derivative and funny. Gcubed could learn a thing or ten from you, madam. Keep up the good work and dont you start phoning it in.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-23-2003 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
How can I get meat that isn't from the U.S.?
Some British or Canadian meat is more appealing?

There are lots of antibiotic-free farms in the US. E.g., Niman Ranch and Georgetown Farm. You could mail order or find a store that sells their stuff.

Hail_Columbia 09-23-2003 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I vote "hoax." No matter how much they like sports, girls who went to Columbia (Barnard! {cough} Barnard!) do not give good roadhead.

Prove me wrong, Lady Lions . . . stink_stank_stunk@hotmail.com . . . .
You are wrong sir.

Now, while it is a known fact that Barnard girls give bad head (submission to patricarchal oppression combining with the pressure to remain the kind of girl one of those nice Columbia men will marry), College girls are pretty good at it. It is the whole "geek cutting loose" thing, you know, like Catholic girls on a weekend furlough. It's a question of enthusiam.

And as for roadhead, well, after the games, given how hugely the football team sucks, we become inspired experts just by example.

If there is a lack of head-giving among Columbia women, however, you must acknowledge that the primary cause of that. You've seen Columbia men. I recall a college fight song about just that:

"Snore, lion, snore!
If this is sex, I'd rather be a virgin.
You think you're debonaire and cool,
But you know, to all of us you're just a tool.
Columbia! Columbia!
Why can't you keep it up?
So snore, lion snore,
Have you forgotten what your dick is for?"

Hail, Columbia!

ltl/fb 09-23-2003 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Yeah. I hate it when that happens. I mean, so freaking what that Piggly-Wiggly has millions (well, ok, thousands...uh, fine, hundreds -- happy?) of dollars at stake when I go into a trial. So what if I say in opening that "any moron blind enough not to see moldy banana goo on the floor by aisle two deserves what he gets"? Or that I insert the word "not" into the causation portion of the transcript of the plaintiff's expert's depo?

Judges. They can be so anal about that stuff.
Really. I mean, if we had wanted to be in a field where words are important, we would have become like landscapers or something. Geez.

Luckily, SD is like the bestest litigator ever (as he's assured us many times) who can cream any lawyer out there because lawyers are big dumbasses etc. etc. (and if female, highly unattractive which I guess goes toward stupidity as well but I can't quite figure out the connection) and his clients are so lucky to have him instead of some big dumbass lawyer person.

Tyrone Slothrop 09-23-2003 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Lexus Talionis
Ahem.

I have it on good authority that Gibson Dunn DC is looking for junior to midlevel lateral associates to work on litigation matters. I don't work there, so don't ask me for details. Just look up the name of a likely associate in that office, tell them that he/she located you, and they'll get $10,000 or so, assuming that you pan out, of course. Maybe they'll even give you some if you're nice.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
The only problem with this being that you would have to work at Gibson Dunn's DC office.

Tyrone Slothrop 09-23-2003 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
More farm country weirdness: this may be pretty normal for people who have knowledge of farms. It was strange to me.

My car broke down in farm country. Nothing for miles but farms, but I know there's a town about 4 miles ahead so I get out and start hiking it. I come upon a herd of cows. About 100 of them. Their eyes all follow me. As I walk by, the entire herd starts to follow me. I'm on the road side of the fence; the cows are on the other. Coltrane was the pied piper of cows for about a half-mile. I'd look back, and 10 feet behind were the cows. All staring at me and following me. I was pretty amused.
Good God, man! You should be thankful you escaped with your life!

Shape Shifter 09-23-2003 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Luckily, SD is like the bestest litigator ever (as he's assured us many times) who can cream any lawyer out there because lawyers are big dumbasses etc. etc. (and if female, highly unattractive which I guess goes toward stupidity as well but I can't quite figure out the connection) and his clients are so lucky to have him instead of some big dumbass lawyer person.
I suspect that you're being sarcastic, but c'mon. If litigation is a crapshoot, who else would you want rolling those 12-sided dice?

sebastian_dangerfield 09-23-2003 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
You probably already know this, but that's a real dangerous attitude in this business, one that can screw you over in a heartbeat if you're not careful. Don't get so tied up in process that you stop thinking about the substance - i.e., the client's fight. Our role in the fights is just what you say - but the consequences to others are real, and will be to you, too, if you are actually believing (and living) what you just typed.
Bilmore,

Dude, when you have people throwing shit in your face all day and demanding the unreasonable and ready to sue your ass for malpractice in a heartbeat because they're fucking sleazbags who'd sell mom and the kids for another buck, you develop a "me first" attitude. I can't stay up till midnight anymore for swine, and being measured only by your most recent mistake is no way to live everyday. You either do your best and let the cards fall where they may or lose your mind trying to produce the impossible.

S(What consequences? No one can put me in jail for deciding to phone it in)D

Theres and Thats 09-23-2003 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
I love this new role you have of SD monitor. I am enjoying it so much that I started to post something about how great it was to see a "lawyers are losers who play Dungeons andDragons " rant by SD when I realized I would be stepping on your turf. I applaud your work in this area for its humor and originality, and also for its backdoor tribute to a classic poster. Much like my Bilmore award, yet totally not like it at all. I think you should take it to the next level, whatever that is, and only you can decide. Because you are Not Derivative and funny. Gcubed could learn a thing or ten from you, madam. Keep up the good work and dont you start phoning it in.
Ooooh, yes, I couldn't have said it better myself! Ain't she grand? And the anality of her anal comments is just so, well, double entendrish! TM, take note of her subtle anality.

Theres & Thats (not a backdoor tribute)

:sportswav

ltl/fb 09-23-2003 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter [re: SD]
litigation is a crapshoot
And who could be better at shooting crap?

Edited to say the crap would be shooting out of the mouth, not that he would be obliterating the crap of others with a special ray gun or something.

ltl/fb 09-23-2003 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
throwing shit in your face all day
And I hadn't even read this yet!

paigowprincess 09-23-2003 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Theres and Thats
Ooooh, yes, I couldn't have said it better myself! Ain't she grand? And the anality of her anal comments is just so, well, double entendrish! TM, take note of her subtle anality.

Theres & Thats (not a backdoor tribute)

:sportswav
You are not a tribute sock, you are a stalker sock or a fan. A tribute sock would be a dumpy rhodes or the divine miss maude or less effectively, Bilmore's inner cynic. Someone who emulates the tributee. I am not sure of your genesis or when you first emerged, but it would nto surprise me if you started as a no theme sock, or just some random secondary who at the last second thought of going after RP. I think this bc you dont really have effective moves. though i could be wrong.

now granted, RP might be a hard poster to tribute bc, while genius, she doesnt seem to have a visible posting style, beyond the incessant editing. if you truly want to take the challenge of tributing her, you might want to do a really OCD sock. toss in a couple of her known posting traits, like flirting with wonk, talking about long island. its a tough gig, and its made tougher that while RP has a persona, its very meta. A good rule to follow for tributing might be to stick to posters who form a visual image or voice in your head of how they sound as you read them. Thurgreed seems to ahve done this for many. RP, not so much. Actually, I had the image of Mercenary Melissa from Millionaire for PJ before she departed for the Ignore List. Anyway, I wish you luck in your endeavors.

bilmore 09-23-2003 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You either do your best and let the cards fall where they may or lose your mind trying to produce the impossible.
As long as you have this part in there, I'm not disagreeing with you. I was just afraid you were meaning something less than that.

And, what consequences? Suit, liability over limits, license loss, clients with guns, reputation trashed - lots of things.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-23-2003 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Really. I mean, if we had wanted to be in a field where words are important, we would have become like landscapers or something. Geez.

Luckily, SD is like the bestest litigator ever (as he's assured us many times) who can cream any lawyer out there because lawyers are big dumbasses etc. etc. (and if female, highly unattractive which I guess goes toward stupidity as well but I can't quite figure out the connection) and his clients are so lucky to have him instead of some big dumbass lawyer person.
Oh Lord, I knew i'd get my nuts handed to me for the "fuck words" rant...

Hey sweetie, I was not clipped by Judge Anal for stumbling and saying "without prejudice" where I should have said "with prejudice." I was using a hypertechnical meaning of a certain word to skirt a court order and the judge threw a hissy fit. I was left to backpedal and got caught with my hand in the cookie jar, but the judge didn't need to be a cock about it. He knows its my job to play with the words to my client's advantage, so he shouldn't get all, well, judgmental on me for doing so.

PS: What's up with the "fat" comment? Where in my post do I deride the obese? And why would you bring up past comments... are you a li' porky and pissed about my prior posts? If so, put down the Ho-hos and go jogging at lunch instead of sitting at your desk writing on this board.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-23-2003 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I was using a hypertechnical meaning of a certain word to skirt a court order and the judge threw a hissy fit. I was left to backpedal and got caught with my hand in the cookie jar, but the judge didn't need to be a cock about it. He knows its my job to play with the words to my client's advantage, so he shouldn't get all, well, judgmental on me for doing so.


I thought Bill Clinton was disbarred.

purse junkie 09-23-2003 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
As long as you have this part in there, I'm not disagreeing with you. I was just afraid you were meaning something less than that.

And, what consequences? Suit, liability over limits, license loss, clients with guns, reputation trashed - lots of things.
Bilmore, lawyers' reputations can't get any worse. Competency questions are the least of our problems.

As to clients with guns, that's why I like in-house work. What, they're going whack me then have to outsource to some huge firm for $400 an hour? The cost-benefit analysis is clearly on the side of keeping me ticking.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-23-2003 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
And, what consequences? Suit, liability over limits, license loss, clients with guns, reputation trashed - lots of things.
1. Liability over limits - Good luck. Everything is in tenancies by entireties. Effectively judgment proof in these parts (and there ain't enough to warrant execution anyway).

2. Suit - See # 1 above. I'll offer a stipulated judgment. Just ttry to collect.

3. License loss - Excellent. It'll keep me out of court forever.

4. Clients with guns - Ok, Touche.

5. Reputation trashed - I'll be dead in 40 years. Who cares.

ltl/fb 09-23-2003 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
1. Liability over limits - Good luck. Everything is in tenancies by entireties. Effectively judgment proof in these parts (and there ain't enough to warrant execution anyway).
Um, you do know that the Supreme Court kinda fucked with the tenancy by the entireties thingy. Just in case you ever deal with federal law instead of just state.

It's good to know you are up on stuff like Supreme Court rulings. I am getting ever more confident in your lawyering skills.

Here's even an article that mentions PA -- oddly enough the first one that pulled up when I did the yahoo search. Hah.

http://www.pa-estateplan.com/library/asset/entirety.htm

Penske_Account 09-23-2003 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess

the other strange site I can recall is a married man begging me to take off my clothes and undies, not to see me nekkid, but so he could wear them around. And I did. So I saw a married man in my bra, undies, and little plaid skirt prancing around like a schoolgirl.
You bitch (please), you said you'd never tell.

paigowprincess 09-23-2003 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
you said you'd never tell.
And we have the Bilmoer of the Day (with my edit, sorry - I dont see bilmore saying bitch (please). Congrats.

Atticus Grinch 09-23-2003 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I was using a hypertechnical meaning of a certain word to skirt a court order and the judge threw a hissy fit. I was left to backpedal and got caught with my hand in the cookie jar, but the judge didn't need to be a cock about it. He knows its my job to play with the words to my client's advantage, so he shouldn't get all, well, judgmental on me for doing so.
We've all been there. You get an order in, and resign yourself to having lost. Then Client gets em's copy of the order and reads it for loopholes, then gives you instructions to follow the loopholes, not the judge's obvious intent (i.e., that you lose).

Client says, "I think we can just do X."

You say, "No way, dude, I have to practice in this town."

Client says, "But you agree with me the order isn't exactly clear, right? You said so when you called me to tell me we had lost --- the order is poorly written and the judge got it wrong, yadda yadda yadda."

You say (to yourself), "Well, it's not exactly Rule 11 sanctionable; I can say this with a straight face." You say this because you don't want Client to tell you to do something you've expressly refused to do, because then you will have to explain to a GP why your firm will have to withdraw from Client's matter, and probably lose the Client entirely. Not to mention some lost receivables.

Meanwhile, GP "advises" you that sometimes Client needs you to walk into bayonets --- you'll understand when you're older --- and that's what lawyers are paid to do --- make the Client's arguments, even shitty ones like "Your order said file by Monday, not file and serve." Or whatever.

The only lawyers who successfully avoid this conundrum are the ones who are given enough juice by their firms to say "Fuck you; I like having a ticket to practice" to Client without being blamed for having "lost" the Client. Sadly, a lot of GPs think a single GA's reputation in front of a discovery commissioner, arbitrator, or even law & motion judge is less valuable than presenting a "can do" attitude to the client.*

*This observation does not apply in federal courts or in small towns with fewer than 15 judges.

Edited to add: The above commiseration does not apply if you were getting "hypertechnical" to cover your own fuck-up. Only when you're instructed by a Client to be an ass-jack WRT an order.

Penske_Account 09-23-2003 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
And we have the Bilmoer of the Day (with my edit, sorry - I dont see bilmore saying bitch (please). Congrats.
Yes! How schweeeeeeet it is!!!

sebastian_dangerfield 09-23-2003 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Um, you do know that the Supreme Court kinda fucked with the tenancy by the entireties thingy. Just in case you ever deal with federal law instead of just state.

It's good to know you are up on stuff like Supreme Court rulings. I am getting ever more confident in your lawyering skills.

Here's even an article that mentions PA -- oddly enough the first one that pulled up when I did the yahoo search. Hah.

http://www.pa-estateplan.com/library/asset/entirety.htm
Maybe you ought to read articles before posting links. Unless you've utter shit for brains you can see that the cite you provided is (a) limited to claims by the Federal Government, (b) to date has only been applied in the context of TAX liens and (c) does not apply to the standard judgment creditors.

If you've actually litigated executions at all, you'd recognize that Courts in states that have tenancy by entireties will never unwind a tenancy by entireties because to do so takes away a protection the sole advantage to having a tenancy by entireties. Why would the states that recognize t by e even retain the concept? One of the main reasons you and your spouse own a home by t by e rather than merely as joint tenants is to avoid judgment creditors getting your home. And by the way, I've used t by e several times to avoid execution in a few states and fed cts, so if the law's changed -- other than some novel distinguishable tax lien case -- its news to me.

Now, please go google me some more distinguishable shlock from some estate lawyer's website.

paigowprincess 09-23-2003 01:39 PM

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advice on how to tribute, I refer you to my personal all time favorite tribute sock Snidely Condescending.


This sockis a narrow tribute sock that hones in on one facet of my "persona". Yet there is something subtle about it and a person less familiar with em's oeuvre might just think its an ordinary sock. And it is generally quite funny. It also does not appear that often, and it does not make the classic JFUCK mistake of beating its theme to death by heavy posting in a short period, often assisted with a similarly themed, and named sock.

I suspect that Snidely Condescending could be the work of Cheval who is a pretty good sockster in my experience. His socks are clever, closely honed to their theme, narrow in scope, and only appear on occasion. Having more tribute socks than anyone, and having never tributed myself, I feel I am a good judge of these things, and therefore, I suggest you OM Cheval for tips.

Penske_Account 09-23-2003 01:55 PM

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advice on how to tribute, I refer you to my personal all time favorite tribute sock Snidely Condescending.
Yes, SC is one the greats. Not mine, but great nonetheless.

Did I say not mine. Seriously. I. quit. socking.

Penske

ltl/fb 09-23-2003 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Just in case you ever deal with federal law instead of just state.
Maybe you ought to read articles before posting links. Unless you've utter shit for brains you can see that the cite you provided is (a) limited to claims by the Federal Government, (b) to date has only been applied in the context of TAX liens and (c) does not apply to the standard judgment creditors.

If you've actually litigated executions at all, you'd recognize that Courts in states that have tenancy by entireties will never unwind a tenancy by entireties because to do so takes away a protection the sole advantage to having a tenancy by entireties. Why would the states that recognize t by e even retain the concept? One of the main reasons you and your spouse own a home by t by e rather than merely as joint tenants is to avoid judgment creditors getting your home. And by the way, I've used t by e several times to avoid execution in a few states and fed cts, so if the law's changed -- other than some novel distinguishable tax lien case -- its news to me.

Now, please go google me some more distinguishable shlock from some estate lawyer's website.
Gosh, honey, I'm sorry my reading skills are deficient.

I must have forgotten to say something to the effect of "if you ever do anything besides state law."

Oh, except I didn't forget. Weird.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-23-2003 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Maybe you ought to read articles before posting links. Unless you've utter shit for brains you can see that the cite you provided is (a) limited to claims by the Federal Government, (b) to date has only been applied in the context of TAX liens and (c) does not apply to the standard judgment creditors.

If you've actually litigated executions at all, you'd recognize that Courts in states that have tenancy by entireties will never unwind a tenancy by entireties because to do so takes away a protection the sole advantage to having a tenancy by entireties. Why would the states that recognize t by e even retain the concept? One of the main reasons you and your spouse own a home by t by e rather than merely as joint tenants is to avoid judgment creditors getting your home. And by the way, I've used t by e several times to avoid execution in a few states and fed cts, so if the law's changed -- other than some novel distinguishable tax lien case -- its news to me.

Now, please go google me some more distinguishable shlock from some estate lawyer's website.
Gosh, honey, I'm sorry my reading skills are deficient.

I must have forgotten to say something to the effect of "if you ever do anything besides state law."

Oh, except I didn't forget. Weird. [/QUOTE]

Interesting... so you're saying the state laws of the states wherein the Fed Districts are located do not apply in the Fed Cts? Hmmm... I seem to recall some case about this in law school... I think it had the name of a Great Lake in it or something like that...

S(If you insist on acting like a pinata...)D


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