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Tyrone Slothrop 09-26-2003 12:38 AM

Fucking telemarketers and Fucking Judges
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Adder
Jumping in in the the middle and not having read any of the discussion before this, but whether it was Congress or the FTC made the distinction is irrelevant. It is, at least in the opinion of one judge (which on the surface appears reasonable), still a content based restriction on speech.

My recollection of First Amendment law says that's a fairly big no no..
It's not really content-based, is it? Isn't it based on mode of communication (telephone), identity of communicator (commercial enterprise), and expressed preference to opt out?

T. (don't really know much about the statute) S.

bilmore 09-26-2003 12:57 AM

Fucking telemarketers and Fucking Judges
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
It's not really content-based, is it? Isn't it based on mode of communication (telephone), identity of communicator (commercial enterprise), and expressed preference to opt out?

T. (don't really know much about the statute) S.
Your friends can still call you at 3am to discuss cars. Your kid's teacher can call. Absolute strangers who have never spoken to you before can call and ask to discuss politics, charities, or your kid's teacher.

Telemarketers can call you anytime, to discuss anything that is NOT related to their jobs or sales pitches. They probably won't but they can, so it's not identity-based.

Politicians can still call, unless they are trying to sell you aluminum siding. (Query whether having donated by phone to a politician allows that politician, after she loses the election, to become a siding seller and use your pre-existing relationship to call you.)

The only restriction is, someone cannot call you out of the blue to discuss with you the possibility of a commercial sale.

It is clearly the content of the call that is distinguished. Problem is, charity calls are "commercial" calls, and the inclusion of those makes the exclusion of regular sales calls discriminatory vis-a-vis the USConst.

Penske_Account 09-26-2003 02:08 AM

the Paigow
 
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
I know this may be outable, but I need you to say it isnt so.

PLF was IMing me about something and I told him I visuallize you wearing a plaid suit He said you dont, just a lot of down and polypropolyene and white manpanties.

Is it true you dont wear plaid suits? this is blowing my mind.
In Stark contrast to some of the longtime GAs who have so sadly yet so obliously hurdled the shark, to coin a phrase,....P..[COUGH] L....COUGH].....F..[COUGH], you, Paigow, have truly hit your stride.

Gotta love the Paigow, indeed!

Penske

Penske_Account 09-26-2003 02:15 AM

let's play solitaire
 
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Originally posted by spookyfish
I'm a little more concerned about how PLF might know about the manpanty thing.
Pretty Little Flower is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

Penske_Account 09-26-2003 02:27 AM

Bilmore
 
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Flower, my lover
I'm sure all y'all have heard the old wives' tale that no one, no matter how stoned on the hibiscus leaf, may be forced to do that which is repellent to his moral nature, whatever that may be.

Indeed.

Penske_Account 09-26-2003 02:32 AM

Fucking telemarketers and Fucking Judges
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Watchtower
Isn't socking annoying?
Yes. NTTAWWT.

leagleaze 09-26-2003 08:09 AM

Moved to big board.

Here

(The post below referred to this post. I've quoted it over at the big board as well.)

bridge of love 09-26-2003 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
I logged on this morning to a PM which contained some links to infirmation.

The PM referred to the following posts on the SF Board numbered:

26161
26162
26163
26165


It would seem, according to these posts that someone deleted some posts about Carr & Ferrell LLP. The last post informs them that dammit they aren't going to take it any more and they are going to create a new board where there is no censorship.

Apparently we should advertise more. ;)

Regardless, if our friends should need a place they are, of course, welcome here. And to do them a favor, I will summarize the gist of the posts over on the SF Board. Not that I am suggesting that the present posts which I number above will disappear. But you know, just in case there is some sort of technological glitch or something.
in other news of law firm/greddy boards conflicts.......Gina T., the CEO of the Michigan H&H firm has stepped down. Gina was "credited" with threatening Yahoo with suit after a post on the old-old boards that listed confidential H&H info. Yahoo immediately killed at least the Detroit board, if not all of its boards. Once new boards popped up, Gina was the subject of many hateful posts.

Ultimately, her administration is seen as a failure by those still at thew firm.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-26-2003 09:03 AM

Fucking telemarketers and Fucking Judges
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Adder
whether it was Congress or the FTC made the distinction is irrelevant.
The distinction Congress made, however, is in the general grant of authority to the FTC, which does not extend to non-profit institutions. If such a grant itself can create a content-based restriction, doesn't that make it nearly impossible for any agency with limited jurisdiction (as they nearly all are) unable to regulate speech in any way?

One good thing about the Denver ruling: presumably to reach the constitutional issue, he had to conclude that the FTC did have the authority to promulgate the regulations.

leagleaze 09-26-2003 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bridge of love


Ultimately, her administration is seen as a failure by those still at the firm.

It occurs to me I really should have posted my original message (which now reads moved to big board) on the big board, so I moved it there.

I'd like to reroute this discussion there so we don't take over the Fashionistas board with it.

So I'll quote your post BOL over there as well if that is ok.


http://www.lawtalkers.com/forums/sho...5933#post35933

paigowprincess 09-26-2003 09:26 AM

Funniest Line on Friends (that the lame posters havent beaten to death)/ Fashion Dont
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
In context, that's a strong competitor for funniest line uttered on television, period. I think it was preceded by "If I can't find a dress to wear for Col. Butler, it'll be curtains," or maybe I'm conflating it with an older joke. My nominations for funniest line on television ever would be:

"Don't blame me; I voted for Kodos."

"I'm the luckiest man on the face of the Earth, now that Lou Gehrig is dead."

As much as I hate to do it, I'll give runner-up status to "Monica: 'Hey, the camera adds ten pounds!' / Chandler: 'How many cameras are on you?'" And at that moment, "Friends" stopped being funny.
My favorite Friends line that I remember right now is when they were doing that game about how well they know each other and the question was "What is Monica's biggest pet peeve?" "Animals dressed like humans". Also "what is the name on Chandler's TV Guide adress?(or whatever)" "Miss Candlelera (or whatever) Bong".

this show was definitely quite funny for a long time.


***

Fashion Don't.

Old Rule that obviously needs to be dusted off. If you have really thick bangs (a hairstyle dont in the first place), do not, and I repeat do not, wear a ponytail. espeicall a mid to high ponytail. I saw a bleach job on the subway doing this. It can aslo be seen by the gal who is apparently a lesbian on "K Street". Maybe this form of hairstyle victim is unitque to DC, but I bet its big in Decatur.

paigowprincess 09-26-2003 09:31 AM

Funniest Line on Television
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Some years ago, there was a comedian on Letterman who did a sitting-in-the-chair-talking-to-Dave routine instead of a stand-up routine. I don't remember much about his routine, but he killed. It was something about a fire in his living room, perhaps at Christmas, and he just kept following up with more jokes about it. The punchline of the last one was, "So we had to set a backfire on the cat." In context, it totally killed, and is my nominee.

Out of context, not so much. Flipping channels a few years later, I came upon the middle of the routine, and was entirely unimpressed by the thing about the cat. So I guess you had to be there.
The two stand up lines I always remember that are so funny and probalby wont be when I post them are:

1. some woman comedian, whose name I do not knwo, but had kind of a weird high pitched voice. "It is such a pain in the ass being a single woman. Even if you are just running down the street to the store (paraphraase here) you have to spend a half hour doijng your hair and your make up and finding something to wear that is flattering but has to appear effortless. Because you never know when you will meet Mr. You Might Do. "

2) the other one is Chris Rock's thing about AIDS testing and the Ghost of Pussy Past.

purse junkie 09-26-2003 09:35 AM

Gossip Folks
 
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I just don't understand how Dershowitz made the list with Wapner.
Especially since that half-assed 'scholar' Dershowitz doesn't even judge 'Animal Court.'

paigowprincess 09-26-2003 09:47 AM

I guess I was at the tool table
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Fugee
I was going to complain last night about not being on the list of "our friends" who got the email. But to find out Paigow got it --- oh the humanity.
Fucking wingnut bitch. What would the Lord say?

ThurgreedMarshall 09-26-2003 09:49 AM

Funniest Line on Television
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
funniest line on television ever:

As much as I hate to do it, I'll give runner-up status to "Monica: 'Hey, the camera adds ten pounds!' / Chandler: 'How many cameras are on you?'"
That's an old joke that Friends should hardly be allowed to take credit for.

But here's my submission.

Seinfeld to Kramer: "Ya kept making the stops?"

TM

purse junkie 09-26-2003 09:51 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
I hated that misogynist tool video but loved that song.

What is it with youngish male celebrities in their fifties and sudden heart problems?

http://www.boston.com/ae/music/artic..._manager_says/

leagleaze 09-26-2003 09:55 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
What is it with youngish male celebrities in their fifties and sudden heart problems?
Drugs? Sex? Rock n Roll?

paigowprincess 09-26-2003 09:56 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
I hated that misogynist tool video but loved that song.

What is it with youngish male celebrities in their fifties and sudden heart problems?

http://www.boston.com/ae/music/artic..._manager_says/
Wow. Last weekend I busted out one of my alltime favorite CDs "sneaking sally down the alley" and was going to post about how grat it is and maybe do a forgotten great CD poll (but I forgot to post and I dont want to read a bunch of TM and EO stuff about old skool rap). I dont know what the misogynistic tool video is, but the guy was extrememely clever.

Usually you kjow your musicians arent long for the world (Jerry., Warren, George) so when something like this happens, its prtty shocking.

bilmore 09-26-2003 09:57 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Drugs? Sex? Rock n Roll?
More likely, IRS, prostate, and alimony.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-26-2003 09:59 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
I hated that misogynist tool video but loved that song.

What is it with youngish male celebrities in their fifties and sudden heart problems?

http://www.boston.com/ae/music/artic..._manager_says/
Misogynist? Come on... The guy had a few models play guitar behind him in rather conservative outfits. I don't know how anyone could hate that guy. I saw him interviewed years ago and he seemed pretty down to earth and shockingly normal for a rock star.

S(All that said, he will probably still go to purgatory for having sung that awful version of "I Didn't Mean to Turn You On")D

Editted to say I once again replied before really reading the post and now realize that PJ was actually saying she hated the VIDEO, and NOT RP. I really think the Knob Creek is beginning to rot my brain...

robustpuppy 09-26-2003 09:59 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
More likely, IRS, prostate, and alimony.
Right -- if drugs sex and rock & roll were the culprits, how would one explain Keith Richards?

On second thought, maybe Mick & Co. are pulling a Weekend at Bernie's on us.

bridge of love 09-26-2003 09:59 AM

Funniest Line on Television
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
That's an old joke that Friends should hardly be allowed to take credit for.

But here's my submission.

Seinfeld to Kramer: "Ya kept making the stops?"

TM
best stand up- Jay Leno on letterman, pre-Leno's tonight show clean-up, Talking about air travel- soon after the air fla. crash "You know, Air Fla. slogan is 'We go where the others don't' Yeah? like the 14th street bridge?" then moving into the crash instructions, and the guy with the inflatable vest floating in the water "you see the look on his face? he doesn't look scared- he looks put out, it's like he looking at his watch thinking 'looks like I'm going be a little bit late getting into LaGuardia..."
can't stand watching the guy now because I can't forget how not-white bread he was.

leagleaze 09-26-2003 10:02 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
More likely, IRS, prostate, and alimony.

Mine are more fun.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-26-2003 10:05 AM

Funniest Line on Television
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
That's an old joke that Friends should hardly be allowed to take credit for.

But here's my submission.

Seinfeld to Kramer: "Ya kept making the stops?"

TM
My roommate has that entire dialogue on a wav file on his computer. He plays it at least twice a week.

One of my favorites:
"What exactly is a barometer?"
"It's pronounced "thermometer"."

purse junkie 09-26-2003 10:05 AM

Funniest Line on Television
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bridge of love

can't stand watching the guy now because I can't forget how not-white bread he was.
Especially when he was on "All in the Family" or "Good Times" or whatever it was giving an earnest lecture about V.D.

paigowprincess 09-26-2003 10:06 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Misogynist? Come on... The guy had a few models play guitar behind him in rather conservative outfits. I don't know how anyone could hate that guy. I saw him interviewed years ago and he seemed pretty down to earth and shockingly normal for a rock star.

S(All that said, he will probably still go to purgatory for having sung that awful version of "I Didn't Mean to Turn You On")D

Editted to say I once again replied before really reading the post and now realize that PJ was actually saying she hated the VIDEO, and NOT RP. I really think the Knob Creek is beginning to rot my brain...
That was the misogynistic video? The Addicted to Love and the one after it? How onearth is that misogynistic? It was kinda cool, kinda sleek and kinda funny, to have him have these models who look alike, but didnt, play air guitar and move in unison.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-26-2003 10:06 AM

Funniest Line on Friends (that the lame posters havent beaten to death)/ Fashion Dont
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
My favorite Friends line that I remember right now is when they were doing that game about how well they know each other and the question was "What is Monica's biggest pet peeve?" "Animals dressed like humans". Also "what is the name on Chandler's TV Guide adress?(or whatever)" "Miss Candlelera (or whatever) Bong".

Big Fat Goalie

sebastian_dangerfield 09-26-2003 10:07 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess

Usually you kjow your musicians arent long for the world (Jerry., Warren, George) so when something like this happens, its prtty shocking.
Well, RP was not a musical genius. he was always a bit more of a marketing guru than a brilliant songwriter. Addicted to Love is up there with Kasmir and Are You Gonna Go My Way for 'Most Amazingly Repetitive Yet Catchy Song.'

I didn't expect someone like RP to drop dead. I'm guessing he probably had garden variety arteriosclerosis or some wierd genetic condition. He certainly didn't party like Jerry (1974 - Jerry had a cholestrol level in excess of 450 and lived for many months on heroin, Hagen Dazs and smokes while not leaving his apartment) or Warren, who once stated that he had a hard time remembering most of 1978 through 1980.

purse junkie 09-26-2003 10:07 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Editted to say I once again replied before really reading the post and now realize that PJ was actually saying she hated the VIDEO, and NOT RP. I really think the Knob Creek is beginning to rot my brain...
Right. And despite the video bimbo collection, he gets many points for being such a consistently snappy dresser.

bilmore 09-26-2003 10:10 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
He certainly didn't party like Jerry (1974 - Jerry had a cholestrol level in excess of 450 and lived for many months on heroin, Hagen Dazs and smokes while not leaving his apartment) or Warren, who once stated that he had a hard time remembering most of 1978 through 1980.
You make these sound like bad things. It's not the fun things in life that kill you, it's the stressors.

paigowprincess 09-26-2003 10:11 AM

Holy crap! Robert Palmer R.I.P.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Well, RP was not a musical genius. he was always a bit more of a marketing guru than a brilliant songwriter. Addicted to Love is up there with Kasmir and Are You Gonna Go My Way for 'Most Amazingly Repetitive Yet Catchy Song.'

I didn't expect someone like RP to drop dead. I'm guessing he probably had garden variety arteriosclerosis or some wierd genetic condition. He certainly didn't party like Jerry (1974 - Jerry had a cholestrol level in excess of 450 and lived for many months on heroin, Hagen Dazs and smokes while not leaving his apartment) or Warren, who once stated that he had a hard time remembering most of 1978 through 1980.
Wrong, Palmer was a genius. YOu apparently only know his eighties oeuvre which is classic eighties but not genius. Listen to his seventies funk inspired stuff. Outstanding. Absolutely stands the test of time.

robustpuppy 09-26-2003 10:14 AM

Funniest Line on Television
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
My roommate
I knew you were still in college.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-26-2003 10:16 AM

Funniest Line on Television
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I knew you were still in college.
It's a huge dorm room though. I've got a sheet hanging over my bed and everything for privacy. Wanna come over?

Bad_Rich_Chic 09-26-2003 10:16 AM

Fucking telemarketers and Fucking Judges
 
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
OK, who has this judge's home number?
Dunno about home, but the tel. no. on his letterhead: (303) 844-5018

Chambers Facsimile (303) 335-2155
Secretary: Stacy Steinbrecher (303) 844-5018
Courtroom Deputy Clerk: Edward Butler (303) 844-5018
Docket Clerk, Civil Matters: Patricia Pirner (303) 844-5018 or 303-844-3433
Docket Clerk, Criminal Matters: Elaine Quintana (303) 844-2115
Court Reporter: Therese Lindblom (303) 844-5018 or 303-628-7877

robustpuppy 09-26-2003 10:18 AM

Funniest Line on Television
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
It's a huge dorm room though. I've got a sheet hanging over my bed and everything for privacy. Wanna come over?
I'm a tiger, not a cougar.


Yet.

bilmore 09-26-2003 10:19 AM

Fucking telemarketers and Fucking Judges
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Dunno about home, but the tel. no. on his letterhead:
Later, we can all call the judge handling the Laci Peterson case and scream "fry him!". Dumb fuck wants to hear evidence and stuff - what a waste!

Shape Shifter 09-26-2003 10:29 AM

Insane in the Blaine
 
You have to admire the Brits for both there creativity and tenacity. I would hope that some jackhole starving himself in a box in the US would go largely unnoticed. The Brits have taken it upon themselves to really make this Blaine's life hell. Uncontent with efforts thus far - which include pelting the box with eggs and golf balls, laser pointers, and all manner of loud noises - some bloke filled balloons with paint and launched them at Blaine's box with a catapult.


From the article:

[Pat Prince, the director of Network Security] said that this morning's attacker broke into a derelict building at the rear of the car park behind the Blaine site. Leaning out of a window, he fired seven or eight shots at the illusionist before hitting the box.

Mr Prince added: "One of our officers who was patrolling in the area heard the twang of a catapult being fired and went to investigate. We detained the man and the police then arrested him.

"The frustrating thing is that once again this man was smartly dressed and well-spoken. You would think that middle-class, middle-aged people would know better.

http://www.thisislondon.com/til/jsp/...itemId=6902175


A catapult?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-26-2003 10:31 AM

Funniest Line on Television
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I'm a tiger, not a cougar.

You can still come over. Just don't fuck with my Bob Marley poster.

Shape Shifter 09-26-2003 10:33 AM

Funniest Line on Television
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
You can still come over. Just don't fuck with my Bob Marley poster.
I've got papers if you've got weed.

Bad_Rich_Chic 09-26-2003 10:40 AM

Fucking telemarketers and Fucking Judges
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Later, we can all call the judge handling the Laci Peterson case and scream "fry him!". Dumb fuck wants to hear evidence and stuff - what a waste!
That, too, would be a justifiable expression of one's political views. However, it won't happen because, frankly, almost no one actually gives a shit. Apparently millions of people care enough about rounding up and executing telemarketers to exercise their speech rights.

NB, I have absolutely no rationality about this, at all. I think these fuckers are a public menace. I would probably applaud the repeal the first amendment w/r/t/ commercial speech entirely if it would get these assholes off my line. I think a lot of other people would, too. That scares the fuck out of me. I think that "constitution isn't a death pact" thing might apply: in applying a no-content-discrimination rule in this case, they court complete and total disaster with the backlash.

BR(considering buying an air horn)C


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