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Anne Elk 09-28-2003 03:17 PM

Geek Love
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tmdiva
[Great book, btw. Anyone else read it?]

It's Webelos, not Weeblos. Silly people.

Not that I agree with the current policies of the BSA, homophobic bastards.

tm
Loved the book. Anything ever happen with the movie? Last I heard Harry Anderson was working on it, but that was years ago.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-28-2003 03:19 PM

post-bilmore physics
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Even Google wouldn't help him here unless he had 100+ hours to understand the additional forces. you start with two masses (Bilmore and his opponent) that independently exert gravitational (static?) forces at t=0, the force being dependent upon the relative location of the center of each mass and the mass itself.

Bilmore lifting his opponent allows the earth's materials, that formerly were deformed by the pressure applied by Bilmore's opponent, to undeform* in a sense. But Bilmore suddenly is applying some measure of the opponent's weight underneath his own (Bilmore's) feet when he lifts his opponent from the earth, causing (additional) deformation under Bilmore's own feet.

Furthermore, Bilmore's exertion of energy to lift his opponent, and presumably moving his opponent's center of mass farther away from the earth's center of mass, alters the earth's position relative to everything else, by changing the gravitational pull. Of course, that requires an understanding that we exert as much gravitational pull on the earth as it does on us at any one time.

It should be noted that energy has been "converted" in a sense by Bilmore's effort. He uses a few of his calories to lift something and next thing you know, the earth is off-kilter.

Furthermore, I note that the gravitational variations are almost insignificant. However, the relative deformations and undeformations, may be significant, depending on the earth's supporting material, Bilmore's mass, and Bilmore's opponent's mass.

And that is without even touching on the external frictional forces from movement.

That is all.

Hello

* If "undeform" is actually a word.
I'm not sure I understand this. Can you lay it out in a formula?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-28-2003 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
2. You had better not be calling me a patent lawyer.

I think P.C. footnoted you as an example of a geek who is not a patent lawyer. I belive your Ahnuld example withstood P.C.'s scrutiny better than all other Bilmore/Mat/Tree examples.

pretermitted_child 09-28-2003 03:37 PM

Yawn and Yea!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Physics?
Programming language inventors?

What in the hell is wrong with you people?!!!!!!!!

I knew we shouldn't have strayed from the telemarketer discussion.

bilmore 09-28-2003 03:46 PM

post-bilmore physics
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Even Google wouldn't help him here unless he had 100+ hours to understand the additional forces. you start with two masses (Bilmore and his opponent) that independently exert gravitational (static?) forces at t=0, the force being dependent upon the relative location of the center of each mass and the mass itself.
I think that you all forget that force can be dissipated through heat. You skip the whole subject of the generation of hot air.

Oh, no, wait, you all got that part . . .

;)

pretermitted_child 09-28-2003 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I belive [sic] your Ahnuld example withstood P.C.'s scrutiny better than all other Bilmore/Mat/Tree examples.
The Ahnuld example was something that wasn't covered in my physics classes. I'm simply not qualified to comment on it, as my knowledge is limited to Newtonian physics at an introductory level. Leagl's analysis creeps into the non-Newtonian realm.*

Pretermitted(Really, all of what Leagl said just went over my head. Whoosh.)Child

* A notable example of non-Newtonian physics is quantum mechanics.

Say_hello_for_me 09-28-2003 03:52 PM

post-bilmore physics
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I'm not sure I understand this. Can you lay it out in a formula?
Oh, someone here may want to shoot you for even asking. I'll do something close for gravity: (quote to follow)

"Gravitation

All bodies attract or pull upon other bodies. In other words, all matter has gravitation. One of Newton’s laws states that the force of attrac-tion between two bodies is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely pro-portional to the square of the distance between their two centers. Therefore, a mass has less gravitational pull on it at the top of a mountain than it has at sea level because the center is displaced farther away from the gravitational pull of the center of Earth. However, the mass remains the same even though the gravitational pull is different. Gravity also varies with latitude. It is slightly less at the equator than at the poles due to the equator’s greater distance from the center of Earth."

From http://www.tpub.com/weather2/2-6.htm

A sorta cute site for simpler explanations than I give.

Note the thing about masses and centers of mass (gravity)

As for static forces, in e.g., a wrestling mass, fughedaboudit. That stuff can be done with numbers (equal and opposite, equal and opposite...), but you'd still be ignoring dynamics, and that stuff is not understood almost at all by your reporter.

Lord give me the strength to exit this discussion now.

Hello

pretermitted_child 09-28-2003 04:00 PM

post-bilmore physics
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me

Lord give me the strength to exit this discussion now.

Hello
Sounds like someone has found a way to reconcile science and religion.

Pretermitted(atheist)Child

blueballs 09-28-2003 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pretermitted_child
The Ahnuld example was something that wasn't covered in my physics classes. I'm simply not qualified to comment on it, as my knowledge is limited to Newtonian physics at an introductory level. Leagl's analysis creeps into the non-Newtonian realm.*

Pretermitted(Really, all of what Leagl said just went over my head. Whoosh.)Child

* A notable example of non-Newtonian physics is quantum mechanics.
You seem like a strange little boy. Are you sure you are not lobotimized_child?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-28-2003 06:35 PM

Joe $MM
 
Just caught the ads. I guess the solution to the problem of "what stupid woman would be fooled by Fox and Joe Millionaire" now that the "secret" is out has been answered: It's only stupid American women. There are plenty of idiotic european women unfamiliar with the show for Joe $MM II.

I smell major international incident.

leagleaze 09-28-2003 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I think P.C. footnoted you as an example of a geek who is not a patent lawyer. I belive your Ahnuld example withstood P.C.'s scrutiny better than all other Bilmore/Mat/Tree examples.


So....that joke went right on over your head huh?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-28-2003 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
So....that joke went right on over your head huh?
Thought the Ahnuld one was hilarious.

"You better not be calling me a patent lawyer" seems like a perfectly sensible sentiment. I just wish I could find a smilie showing me ducking.

leagleaze 09-28-2003 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Thought the Ahnuld one was hilarious.

"You better not be calling me a patent lawyer" seems like a perfectly sensible sentiment. I just wish I could find a smilie showing me ducking.
Right, cause I was expressing preference for being called a geek. See it isn't funny when you have to explain it.

I did think Ahnuld was one of my better ones, but you know I can't take credit, I really did happen to turn on the TV as I was reading the question and there was Ahnuld, walking in a circle.

It was as if God created the answer for me.

Shape Shifter 09-28-2003 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
It was as if God created the answer for me.
Awfully nice of Her.

evenodds 09-28-2003 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
See it isn't funny when you have to explain it.
Yeah, that's why it wasn't funny.

leagleaze 09-28-2003 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Yeah, that's why it wasn't funny.

Oh shush.

blueballs 09-28-2003 08:42 PM

Joe $MM
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
There are plenty of idiotic european women unfamiliar with the show for Joe $MM II.

I smell major international incident.
If these are european hoes then I think it's body odour that you are smelling. But $1MM would certainly buy a lot of Right Guard.

Don Van Vliet 09-28-2003 09:01 PM

Not what I expected
 
I think someone pointed me to the wrong group. I heard this was the place for music, sex and boogie. If the Cap here wanted a physics lesson, he would have gone to the batting range instead.

Where is the one-on-one fun?

the Captain.

leagleaze 09-28-2003 10:07 PM

http://www.brianmung.com/blainegame.htm

Shoot David Blaine (flash game, has sound.)

bilmore 09-28-2003 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze

It was as if God created the answer for me.
There is no god.

But, that was a very nice answer. One that more than rewards me for posing a physics poll on a weekend.

You are simply better than you give yourself credit for. Stop trying to lay off credit on some horseradish-induced bad dream.

leagleaze 09-28-2003 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
There is no god.

But, that was a very nice answer. One that more than rewards me for posing a physics poll on a weekend.

You are simply better than you give yourself credit for. Stop trying to lay off credit on some horseradish-induced bad dream.
Horseradish?

Yes, it was a better answer than you deserved for posting a physics poll on a weekend. However I believe in God, though I do not believe that was the source of the answer. That I must concede came from my twisted yet gifted brain.

By the by, we had the visit from the Phelps clan this weekend in the 'burg. I don't think Phelps himself was there and I didn't see the protestors themselves, they were a good distance from where I was located. Fortunately we managed to organize a unity day and some silent witnesses. The unity day attracted most people and the silent witnesses blocked the view of the protestors. This avoided people screaming at each other and any potential for violence.

It was something though, the city had all sorts of cops, bomb sniffing dogs, helicopters and rumor had it snipers.

It was amazing.

pretermitted_child 09-28-2003 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
http://www.brianmung.com/blainegame.htm

Shoot David Blaine (flash game, has sound.)
So that's what the kitten in your avatar is doing.

bilmore 09-28-2003 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Yes, it was a better answer than you deserved for posting a physics poll on a weekend.
Hey, YOU come up with that much conversation on a simple "there's no such thing as . . . " post. I dare ya'.

Quote:

That I must concede came from my twisted yet gifted brain.
You will never get a concession from me on one. Certainly on the second, but . . .

Quote:

By the by, we had the visit from the Phelps clan this weekend in the 'burg.
Do NOT take these people lightly. Please. You can think you're having a conversation about morality, while they're busy trying to fight satan. You can do a lot of really irrational things when you're trying to fight satan. You can kill people and still feel good about it. Religion inspires that kind of no-mind shit. Stay home.

Gawd sucks. Gawdlovers suck. And they kill while they're sucking - see 9/11 - so take them seriously.

leagleaze 09-28-2003 10:54 PM

I don't take them lightly. Believe me. Certainly it is easier to stay home, but to allow such hatred to go without any response solves nothing. I'm not about to hide my head in the sand for fear of a maniac. I'd much prefer to stand up and be counted against them when it comes down to it. Does this make my friends and family worry for my safety? You bet. Do they try to talk me out of it? Not on your life. They support me and tell me to please be careful. Which I am.

I am aware of the risks. I do whatever I can to minimize them. And should something happen to me because I have chosen to do what I do, so be it.

In this case we took every precaution possible. We had the cooperation of the police, we had a separate location for those who would most likely have engaged the Phelps clan, and we had individuals trained in silent protest to deal with the protestors themselves. I personally never saw them, well until just now on the local news. It would seem they don't only hate fags, but thank god for september 11th. I bet that wins them fans.

Regardless, we had a peaceful and successful day. We didn't invite Phelps to visit, he chose to do so because of a movie a youth group was showing. We weren't about to cancel a fundraiser just because he decided to bring his so called message to our city.

bilmore 09-28-2003 11:09 PM

Thank you.

Sometimes I worry.

leagleaze 09-28-2003 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Thank you.

Sometimes I worry.
I know, it's very sweet.

paigowprincess 09-29-2003 08:27 AM

My weekend
 
Things I discovered

1) The cordless vibrator. Falls somewhere between the magic wand and the rabbit in terms of power. My wand died a sparky death after about five loyal years. May it RIP. Went to the Ye Olde Porn Shoppe to replace it only to find a homeless guy making a scene at the register bc of his bankcard (good to know my spare change is going somwhere to "feed" him) and two cops. Rap music blaring. Store run by a big man and a woman talking to each other using swear words totally. Not really a womyn friendly environment to ask where the waterdancers with attachements are. I did anyway, along with the magic wand. They were out of everything (who moved the hitachis?). And teh DVD section was not lit so you couldnt read the boxes, which is important.

So a light bulb went off and I went to Rite Aid, asked for the heating pad, back massager section (Hi, Slave!) , and found the massagers. No Hitachis there either, but saw a conair looking magic wand thing for sixteen bucks, and the Hometrics (?) cordless for nineteen bucks. Cordless, way cheaper thatn the wand. Sadly I am wand dependent , but this may help me ease back into the less powerful things so that the man's touch is more effective.

2) Went to the video store and rented a DVD called Jenna Love Kobe. I thought *that* sounded interesting, but Kobe turned out to be an asian broad. I havent watched porn in awhile but can someone explain when the dialogue got replaced by techno dentist music? I would rather here "Oooh, what are you making, cake?" "Aaaah, sorry I spattered cake batter on your pussy, let me lick it off" than canned techno. What a turn off.

3)One can drink a Pisco Sour at the RUmba Cafe in Adams Morgan. I considered it but the fact that Pisco is a "grape liquor" ultimately deterred me. I was so excited I busted out the cell phone and called Mineeapolis Information, but realized that Flower wasnt in the phone book.

paigowprincess 09-29-2003 08:57 AM

Edited to put in a header bc the no header posts bug me since I am a heavy srroller
 
I saw a two second clip of Arnold debating Arianna Huffington. Whatever happened to the Americans running for office?

Between Arnold (whose movies I have never seen) and that Robert from Cupid, I never wnat to hear an Austrian accent again. THey just sound robotic (And I am of Austrian descent in part).

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Right, cause I was expressing preference for being called a geek. See it isn't funny when you have to explain it.

I did think Ahnuld was one of my better ones, but you know I can't take credit, I really did happen to turn on the TV as I was reading the question and there was Ahnuld, walking in a circle.

It was as if God created the answer for me.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-29-2003 09:04 AM

Fred Phelps
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
I don't take them lightly. Believe me. Certainly it is easier to stay home, but to allow such hatred to go without any response solves nothing. I'm not about to hide my head in the sand for fear of a maniac. I'd much prefer to stand up and be counted against them when it comes down to it. Does this make my friends and family worry for my safety? You bet. Do they try to talk me out of it? Not on your life. They support me and tell me to please be careful. Which I am.

I am aware of the risks. I do whatever I can to minimize them. And should something happen to me because I have chosen to do what I do, so be it.

In this case we took every precaution possible. We had the cooperation of the police, we had a separate location for those who would most likely have engaged the Phelps clan, and we had individuals trained in silent protest to deal with the protestors themselves. I personally never saw them, well until just now on the local news. It would seem they don't only hate fags, but thank god for september 11th. I bet that wins them fans.

Regardless, we had a peaceful and successful day. We didn't invite Phelps to visit, he chose to do so because of a movie a youth group was showing. We weren't about to cancel a fundraiser just because he decided to bring his so called message to our city.
I just ran a google search on Fred Phelps and read through his website. I'd usually say I'm appalled by someone so foul, but he's so utterly ridiculous I have to ask... Is it possible he and his alleged following are actually someone's idea of macabre black humor?

S(The site is just so insane that no one could ever really expect anyone with a stitch of grey matter between his ears to take it seriously)D

sebastian_dangerfield 09-29-2003 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
1. I hate the stomach flu. I hate it even more when you combine it with a chest cold. How miserable is that?

3. I think it isn't quite right to call centrifugal force a fictitious force really, but ah well. People who have actually studied physics, unlike me, can debate that one. My physics knowledge is limited to Ahnuld movies.

8. What is this famous people dying week? Now Donald O'Connor has died. http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movi....ap/index.html
1. I got the worst goddamn sinus cold this week and the fucker won't go away. Its got this annoying low grade fever which picks up fromtime to time. Everyone in my office has some stomach flu. It must be something around this area.

3. Physics? I'd rather watch people wallpaper my kitchen than spend five minutes discussing it. I took one course in it in college. The professor and I got into an argument over whether Rush was better than the Allmans during an exam prep session. The guy swore Rush was a perfect example of mathematics applied to music. I got the "Gentleman's C" because the prof found me amusing, even though I really flunked every exam. That said, physcis is more useful than philospohy and religion, which are utterly worthless courses. The difference, however, is that its easy as pie to ace philospohy and religion by bullshitting on exams, while one cannot fake his way through a physics exam.

S(Do you have a sore throat as well? I'm starting to get one, and I have a goddamn oral argument tomorrow)D

evenodds 09-29-2003 09:25 AM

My weekend
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
One can drink a Pisco Sour at the RUmba Cafe in Adams Morgan. I considered it but the fact that Pisco is a "grape liquor" ultimately deterred me. I was so excited I busted out the cell phone and called Mineeapolis Information, but realized that Flower wasnt in the phone book.
I was tempted to call the Flower and the entire Pisco Sour team to report that there are still people who considered the mojito to be worthy of this exchange:

"So, Even, have you ever had a mojito?????

Aren't they sooooo good?????"

This exchange disturbed me on two levels.

First, they are guys -- granted guys who'd been drinking beer for an entire weekend by the time I met up with them last night -- so effervescence about a cocktail is troubling.

Second, how could you live in America since 1999 and not have "enjoyed" a mojito?

Additional observations:

Unless you are Mr. Man, you can wander into any bar in Austin and hear really talented musicians.

Hangovers suck on Mondays.

Not Bob 09-29-2003 09:38 AM

My weekend -- Lost in Translation
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Hangovers suck on Mondays.
Indeed.

What doesn't suck, however, is "Lost in Translation," Sofia Coppola's new film. Mrs. Not Bob and I caught it this weekend -- we have been anxious to see it since reading the cover article in the NYT Sunday magazine on Ms. Coppola a few weeks ago.

Bill Murray was *very* good. And he sings pretty good versions of "More Than This" and "What's So Funny Bout Peace, Love, and Understanding?"

Ling-a-ding-ding, baby.

paigowprincess 09-29-2003 09:41 AM

My weekend
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
I was tempted to call the Flower and the entire Pisco Sour team to report that there are still people who considered the mojito to be worthy of this exchange:

"So, Even, have you ever had a mojito?????

Aren't they sooooo good?????"

This exchange disturbed me on two levels.

First, they are guys -- granted guys who'd been drinking beer for an entire weekend by the time I met up with them last night -- so effervescence about a cocktail is troubling.

.
I did not go into the Rumba but was standing outside looking at the menu when I heard a guy on his cell say "I HAD to come to the RUMBA because I was craving their mojitos. So good! Have you had one?" Not clear whether he as gay or straight and not clear whether this would be a worse offense for a stright or gay.

And speaking of straights and gays, I went out Friday evening with a female friend who I learned was a bi. I learned a lot about bis on friday bc I later had a bi man come pick me up on behalf of his really shy friend. I asked my bi female friend, lets call her BF, whether she had a preference between men and women, and she said she would only have a LTR with a man and thats who she saw herself ending up with. I guess women are just for fun for BF. I always figured bisexuals are just basically at a transitional point between straight and gay. or are in college experimenting to be cool.

the bi guy told me right off the bat he was bi. As I thought he was picking me up for him, not his friend, I told him I dont date bi guys. He got offended as if I had just engaged in some hate crime. I was like, some of my best friends are bi, and I am insulted by how you took my remark.

Seriously. What woman wants to date a bi guy? And its not just the fear of AIDS thing (which, to be honest, is a little palpable just bc men who sleep with men are at higher risk, but not the main reason). I would always think the guy was just using me as a road stop on the high way to out. Plus, i would always worry that he would prefer to be with a guy and that there was always something I could not provide him with. I bet my thinking is similar to gay women who dont date bi girls. Would any of you gals date a bi guy?

Hank Chinaski 09-29-2003 10:05 AM

My weekend
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
the mojito
is close to being a mint julep with rum instead of bourbon*. On Queer Eye, when Alan's girlfriend corrected his mint julep to use gin, she was close to actually ordering a mojito, accidently, if only her confusion had been slightly different.


*different kind of sugar, different kind of water, plus lime juice, but still real close

RealityBites 09-29-2003 10:06 AM

My weekend
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Would any of you gals date a bi guy?
A friend actually married a bi guy. They now have their first child. Everyone else thinks it's rather off, but she doesn't have a problem with it. she's the one that told us in the first place.


I don't think I could do it. I went on a couple dates with a bi guy back in college. I didn't know it at the time, but I knew something wasn't right about him in that way. We never even kissed, but we had a blast!

Turned out to be a good friend, and I was entirely jealous when I saw the hottie he ended up with....

purse junkie 09-29-2003 10:10 AM

brownie haters
 
That chic little hat alone validates their entire existence and was the main reason I joined and I can't imagine who could speak ill of them as a result. My smashing vintage hat collection is entirely because of their inspiration. Viva Brownies!

notcasesensitive 09-29-2003 10:21 AM

My weekend
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Additional observations:

Unless you are Mr. Man, you can wander into any bar in Austin and hear really talented musicians.

Hangovers suck on Mondays.
Well, Miss Busy Social Life, that is the price of a good time. No complaining. Do all the talented musicians hide from Mr. Man? I'm confused...

bold_n_brazen 09-29-2003 10:21 AM

brownie haters
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
That chic little hat alone validates their entire existence and was the main reason I joined and I can't imagine who could speak ill of them as a result. My smashing vintage hat collection is entirely because of their inspiration. Viva Brownies!
There's something in my pocket
it belongs across my face
I keep it very close to me
in a most important place
I bet you wouldn't guess it
if you guessed a long long while
So I'll take it out and put it on
It's a great big Brownie smile.

Shape Shifter 09-29-2003 10:25 AM

Fred Phelps
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I just ran a google search on Fred Phelps and read through his website. I'd usually say I'm appalled by someone so foul, but he's so utterly ridiculous I have to ask... Is it possible he and his alleged following are actually someone's idea of macabre black humor?

S(The site is just so insane that no one could ever really expect anyone with a stitch of grey matter between his ears to take it seriously)D
I had to google him after Leagl mentioned something about him a few weeks back. I remember thinking the same thing. The disturbing part is that uncomplicated messages coupled with calls to action can find a ready audience among the unsophisticated.

Shape(just doing it)Shifter

sebastian_dangerfield 09-29-2003 10:27 AM

My weekend
 
Quote:

Originally posted by RealityBites
A friend actually married a bi guy. They now have their first child. Everyone else thinks it's rather off, but she doesn't have a problem with it. she's the one that told us in the first place.


I don't think I could do it. I went on a couple dates with a bi guy back in college. I didn't know it at the time, but I knew something wasn't right about him in that way. We never even kissed, but we had a blast!

Turned out to be a good friend, and I was entirely jealous when I saw the hottie he ended up with....
I messed around with a bi chick some years back and found it very frustrating. I kept trying to get the 3some gig going, but she had this wierd rule that when she was feeling "into chicks", she slept with only chicks, and when she was feeling into guys, she'd sleep with only guys. The best plus of being bi would seem to be to be the fact that you could sleep with both sexes at any given time, and at once. Her compartmentalization/separation of the sexes seemed an anathema to what I took to be the very intent of bi-ness. I asked a bi friend about this once and he agreed that there really was not much point in being bi if you were never going to have the threesome.


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