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Bad_Rich_Chic 09-30-2003 05:08 PM

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In lawschool, a friend and I were in this class taught by a raving critical race theorist, who was completely out of her mind. We collected a list of her most outrageous phrases from lectures (all of which were primo crit-satire material) and had a competition to see who could use the most of them in writing the final exam. Despite using the phrases "hegemony of patriarchal dogma" and "the racist oppression of the primacy of facts" more than once, my friend won. I seem to recall a phrase something to the effect of "the unmaking of the literalist historical narrative of the oppressor and the non-making of a free narrative of subjective experience of the unseen" put her over the top.

We both got As. We laughed and laughed.

Atticus Grinch 09-30-2003 05:08 PM

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Have any African-Americans ever done even passably well on a reality tv show?
They did really well on "Roots," all things considered.

notcasesensitive 09-30-2003 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds
Have any African-Americans ever done even passably well on a reality tv show?
Yes. Both women I believe. One won Survivor and one came in first or second on Big Brother.

Now that I think about it, Rubin and Justin on AI.

greatwhitenorthchick 09-30-2003 05:10 PM

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Ollie (in high school, I was chased by a wild pig while shroomin') Ramone
for real or in your head? I have had some funny experiences with shrooms. I don't know if this is common, but we used to eat shrooms at the tail end of the buzz from X so it was easier. One time I was certain there was a purple man sitting in a urinal who was talking to me. And once I think there was some hallucinogenic stuff mixed in with my X because this girl's face suddenly became plaid. It stayed that way for a long time. I even remember the tartan. It was like pastel blue and dark blue. weird.

these days generally I just talk to the purple man sitting under my desk because I am chicken about getting caught and getting deported.

AngryMulletMan 09-30-2003 05:12 PM

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So, like, I keep having this recurring nightmare over and over where I show up for a test I never studied for. It's an algebra test and it's my evidence professor giving the test and he is really pissed because I skipped class for the entire semester. So he asks me what I know about algebra and my bubble totally bursts and to top it off, I miss the school bus home and have to walk all the way back, twenty miles, all uphill and I am so, like, out of shrooms.

So then I wake up and I am, like, totally pissed because I realize that going to work every fucking day sucks way more than flunking exams ever did.

And I'm not taking any fucking tests on the internet to tell me whether I am going to hell because I am, like, so totally there.

Bad_Rich_Chic 09-30-2003 05:14 PM

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I have brake failure dreams too! Bizarre.
I sometimes have the "trapped at Camp Crystal Lake and Jason is in the lodge and the only working car is a standard transmission and I have to drive it to escape" dream.

But I just chalk this up to a combination of too many Friday the 13th movies and not being able to drive a stick.

LessinSF 09-30-2003 05:15 PM

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Yes. Both women I believe. One won Survivor and one came in first or second on Big Brother.
Vecepia won Survivor, but she could swim decently. Danielle came in second on BB3, where the only water is the hot tub.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-30-2003 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
One time I was certain there was a purple man sitting in a urinal who was talking to me.

New board motto?

ThurgreedMarshall 09-30-2003 05:21 PM

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However, the Miami teams of the mid-late 80s under Jimmy Johnson could have made the NFL playoffs. And maybe that crazy Auburn team from a few years back that was unbeatable but was under the death penalty and couldn't go to a bowl.
You need to cut back on the 'shrooms.

TM

Anne Elk 09-30-2003 05:22 PM

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You did not just say "colored friends", did you? You sound like my husband's southern grandmother.
Well, I don't know what else to call them. African-American doesn't seem quite right because most are not African or American. Some are African, others are various islanders (Haiti, T&T, Aruba) with green cards. Privately the SO and I use tan, since he is tanner than I am, but I don't want to offend anyone in FB land.

So what is the PC phrase du jour?

Shape Shifter 09-30-2003 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
One time I was certain there was a purple man sitting in a urinal who was talking to me.
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New board motto?
What is with your fascination with colored people?

bold_n_brazen 09-30-2003 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
for real or in your head? I have had some funny experiences with shrooms. I don't know if this is common, but we used to eat shrooms at the tail end of the buzz from X so it was easier. One time I was certain there was a purple man sitting in a urinal who was talking to me. And once I think there was some hallucinogenic stuff mixed in with my X because this girl's face suddenly became plaid. It stayed that way for a long time. I even remember the tartan. It was like pastel blue and dark blue. weird.

these days generally I just talk to the purple man sitting under my desk because I am chicken about getting caught and getting deported.
In college, I went with my then boyfriend to see Pink Floyd. We ate mushrooms. Not more than 15 minutes into the concert, I turned to him and said "I have to go...there are pigs in the air". Now, there were actually gigantic inflatable pigs in the air. He told me so. I told him that I was aware that they were really there, but the fact that they were there meant that I had to go.

After a long pause, while he looked at me intently, I believed he understood. Then he sighed and said "Do I have to go too?"

I told him no, trotted down to my favorite bar, and enjoyed the evening shrooming, in public, without him.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-30-2003 05:28 PM

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Not thinskinned. Just a reality check that there are two kinds of posters- those that post something that contributes to the community, and those who sit in the audience and heckle .

I used to think the world was divided into two kinds of people. People who took acid and those who didnt. Now I realize it is divided between the entertainers and the hecklers from the audiecne (actually there is a third group, the plain old audience, but they dont actulaly post so are not on my radar).
1. Heckling's easy. You say something snide quickly and people think its witty. Its cheap, its easy and it makes the heckler feel like he's one of the cool kids. Hell, I do it all the time when I'm talking to a boring people. Its an easy way to keep shifting topics so you never have to have that awkward moment of realizzation that you and "Carl, from accounting" and "Bill, from risk management" and their fat little wives have utterly nothing in common. Heckling is also learned. The best hecklers steal liberally from television. Watch this board - what often passes for witty comeback is someone mimicing sitcom snipes in both delivery and subject matter. To their credit, hecklers recognize just how much of comedy is contingent on timing. But its still cheap humor.

2. People are still divided by those who goton the bus and those who didn't. There's a certain recognition of things that those who've ridden the bus always have, whether they want it or not. Those who haven't ridden the bus will never have it. Its a real life event, and it does alter you, for the better. I can still recall the day I opened the curtain and realized "Hey, fuck, there's a lot going on the ordinary conscious mind misses..." Its all good. Everyone needs to got there from time to time. I'd make tripping a 4X a year mandatory act if I were emporer. People have a hard time hurting one another when they can't even properly operate their bodies, let alone weapons.

paigowprincess 09-30-2003 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
He did just fine.
Oh, that was a good one. Did he get his horns wet?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-30-2003 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
One time I was certain there was a purple man sitting in a urinal who was talking to me.
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What is with your fascination with colored people?
Anti-dentite

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 09-30-2003 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
for real or in your head?
For real. And I ain't even lying. Actually, I didn't get close enough to it to fully confirm its pig status. But it was long, low, and grunted while rooting around the ground at the bottom of the hill I was standing on. It was a good night. Earlier, a non-trippin' friend completely mind-fucked me with a camara flash unit. Later, I saw a trannie who had to go at least 6'6" walking down a random suburban street.

notcasesensitive 09-30-2003 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
In college, I went with my then boyfriend to see Pink Floyd. We ate mushrooms. Not more than 15 minutes into the concert, I turned to him and said "I have to go...there are pigs in the air". Now, there were actually gigantic inflatable pigs in the air. He told me so. I told him that I was aware that they were really there, but the fact that they were there meant that I had to go.

After a long pause, while he looked at me intently, I believed he understood. Then he sighed and said "Do I have to go too?"

I told him no, trotted down to my favorite bar, and enjoyed the evening shrooming, in public, without him.
Thus violating the one rule of drug use that I always took very seriously -- never split away from the party group. Especially important for X and hallucinogens.

Glad it worked out for you though. Pigs actually flying would be quite freaky.

paigowprincess 09-30-2003 05:33 PM

Realtiy tv request
 
I have a date with my new 28 year old boyfriend (e/o and I were discussing whether this makes me a Jag-ooo-are or a Lynx since I am not old enough to be a Cougar) on Trhusday and will miss yet another episdoe of survivor. can soeone tape it for me and mail it to me (ncs????).

paigowprincess 09-30-2003 05:35 PM

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Have any African-Americans ever done even passably well on a reality tv show?
a black woman won a sruvivor. it was the survivor nobody remebers though. Must have been the OUtback where nobody hd to swim.

"all realtiy all the time, except when hurling one liners"

TexLex 09-30-2003 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Now that I think about it, the requirement was for the student to tread water for a certain amount of time, fully clothed, while holding a brick over his/her head.
That is part of the red cross' test to become a certified lifeguard and it's ten minutes of brickholding. All of the black persons in the lifeguard class I took eons ago failed, but I don't care to generalize that sample to the rest of the population.

RE papers - I double dipped on several political philosphy papers - the Plato's Republic paper got used three times if I'm not mistaken.

RE dreams - I used to have the recurring never-been-to-class-and-thought-I-dropped-it-but-the-drop-didn't-go-through-in-the-computer dream quite often - it was always a lawschool class. In undergrad I usually had a similar dream that involved birth control pills not having been taken when in fact, they were. This week I dreamed that I lived in the dorm of some college in the mountains and my baby was a little pug dog. ???

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Ollie (in high school, I was chased by a wild pig while shroomin') Ramone
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A real pig? I had to chase down a friend's roomate who was being chased by imaginary giant bugs and running around campus (Cullen Fountain) nekkid on a bad trip. Turns out nekkid tripping lunatics can run really fast. (OK - now I see it was a real pig).

To Ann - I hear "colored" used by my older clients who mean no harm. I don't think they know what term to use either.

Anyone else think an intervention is in order to wean PP off reality shows?

I think I'm caught up now.

-T(phew!)L

notcasesensitive 09-30-2003 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
I have a date with my new 28 year old boyfriend (e/o and I were discussing whether this makes me a Jag-ooo-are or a Lynx since I am not old enough to be a Cougar) on Trhusday and will miss yet another episdoe of survivor. can soeone tape it for me and mail it to me (ncs????).
no vcr. repeat with me... tivo.

I haven't watched it at all this season, tho I think it made it onto the tivo last week. Survivor is more of a wait until there are less than 8 people to remember sort or show for me anyway. And then I usually just catch a minute here or there then watch the final episode. I'm a skimmer.

Shape Shifter 09-30-2003 05:37 PM

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Oh, that was a good one. Did he get his horns wet?
Only enough to rinse off Christ's blood, presumably.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-30-2003 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Thus violating the one rule of drug use that I always took very seriously -- never split away from the party group. Especially important for X and hallucinogens.

Glad it worked out for you though. Pigs actually flying would be quite freaky.
Second.

Also, there should be a coach involved. I mean, what would have happened if a flying pig attacked and you wanted to jump over the building to escape?

paigowprincess 09-30-2003 05:38 PM

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Well, I don't know what else to call them. African-American doesn't seem quite right because most are not African or American. Some are African, others are various islanders (Haiti, T&T, Aruba) with green cards. Privately the SO and I use tan, since he is tanner than I am, but I don't want to offend anyone in FB land.

So what is the PC phrase du jour?
Cant wait to see Thurgrteed on this one. I call them cafe au lait myslf. or yummy caramel goodness.

baltassoc 09-30-2003 05:40 PM

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In my last semester in college I had final papers due on the same day in four different classes. I picked the wrong one to be be late on. The professor had given a 5 pm deadline; by 7:30 pm he was on an airplane to his native South Africa, never to return to the US. He could have let us know that he really, really meant it.

After much nashing of teeth, the head of the department graded the paper and gave me an A, at least a grade higher than the prof would have given me. I got word the day before graduation.

I had another professor for several classes for whom a paper on homosexuality = A. Boosted my GPA by at least a couple of tenths.

As to black people swimming, it's got to be experiential. Growing up, I swam competitively. There were not a whole lot of black kids on the teams, but the fastest swimmer I've ever known personally was black. He had about 1% body fat, too. He could have tread water for days. I think I had a little man crush on him: great athelete, very very smart, funny, all around nice guy.

paigowprincess 09-30-2003 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
For real. And I ain't even lying. Actually, I didn't get close enough to it to fully confirm its pig status. But it was long, low, and grunted while rooting around the ground at the bottom of the hill I was standing on. It was a good night. Earlier, a non-trippin' friend completely mind-fucked me with a camara flash unit. Later, I saw a trannie who had to go at least 6'6" walking down a random suburban street.
Where areyou from that you saw both a wild pig and a gigantic trannie in the same area?

Replaced_Texan 09-30-2003 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Where areyou from that you saw both a wild pig and a gigantic trannie in the same area?
That could easily happen here.

evenodds 09-30-2003 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by Anne Elk
Well, I don't know what else to call them. African-American doesn't seem quite right because most are not African or American. Some are African, others are various islanders (Haiti, T&T, Aruba) with green cards. Privately the SO and I use tan, since he is tanner than I am, but I don't want to offend anyone in FB land.

So what is the PC phrase du jour?
Frankly, I don't think there is one.

We use "Islander" or the specific island (bahamian, trini, granadan, etc.) for the Islanders and the descendants of Islanders.

Here's a hint, though. If you find out your SO has white British relatives in those islands, he will generally not appreciate being called white or British.

TexLex 09-30-2003 05:45 PM

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That could easily happen here.
I understand there are feral pigs in and about Memorial park. So yes. Definitely.

-TL

Anne Elk 09-30-2003 05:47 PM

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Cant wait to see Thurgrteed on this one. I call them cafe au lait myslf. or yummy caramel goodness.
Yeah, he'll probably yell at me again. Oh well.

bilmore 09-30-2003 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
As to black people swimming, it's got to be experiential.
Concur. I've never seen a correlation. As for Islanders, well, people who live in waters teeming with sharks don't learn to swim like people living next to calm, friendly, non-human-eating lakes do.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 09-30-2003 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Where areyou from that you saw both a wild pig and a gigantic trannie in the same area?
A place with the nation's largest w/in city park and a decent freak quotient (though I still don't know what the trannie was doing in the 'burbs); a place with more strip clubs per capita than any other city in America; a place with good beer and shitty salaries. In other words, the same place I am now. If that's outable, well, fuck it.

And what, no props for using the old Spreewell "ain't even lyin'" line?

Anne Elk 09-30-2003 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds
Frankly, I don't think there is one.

We use "Islander" or the specific island (bahamian, trini, granadan, etc.) for the Islanders and the descendants of Islanders.

Here's a hint, though. If you find out your SO has white British relatives in those islands, he will generally not appreciate being called white or British.
Ahhh, that makes sense. Islander here in Bean-town usually refers to inhabitants of Nantucket or the Vineyard.

So to rephrase my earlier statement: none of my friends from Senegal, Kenya, Trinidad & Tobago, Haiti, Aruba, Jamaica, Brooklyn, or Springfield, Mass. know how to swim. The guy from Bermuda does, kinda.

evenodds 09-30-2003 05:56 PM

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I call them cafe au lait myslf. or yummy caramel goodness.
The OM hates being called cafe au lait and prefers the wildly inaccurate mochaccino.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-30-2003 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds
Frankly, I don't think there is one.

We use "Islander" or the specific island (bahamian, trini, granadan, etc.) for the Islanders and the descendants of Islanders.

Here's a hint, though. If you find out your SO has white British relatives in those islands, he will generally not appreciate being called white or British.
How about the old fashioned "people of color".

For Brits everyone, I simply use "prig".

Bad_Rich_Chic 09-30-2003 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Cant wait to see Thurgrteed on this one. I call them cafe au lait myslf. or yummy caramel goodness.
Is "people of color" still on the radar screen? I always hated that phrase, so I rather hope not. Sounds somehow like social-worker patronizing to me. Like being one of the "special" people who ride the short bus.

Thinking of this, I have a friend from south africa who says colored (or "coloured," I suppose) all the time, which is quite disconcerting. I think I find it much more disconcerting than if he were to refer to himself as a "nigger." He just laughs at the sour expressions on our faces and says "get the fuck over it."

Anyhow, if by "colored" one means to include "everyone but the white guys," why not just say "everyone but the white guys"? It seems the distinguishing factor is whiteness, not some miscellaneous non-white ethnicity. While the observation that pacific islanders, asians, west indians, africans, etc. are not correctly referred to as "african-americans," why should there be one all-encompasing term identifying their shared "other-non-whiteness"?

And, while I'm on the subject (sort of), what is this "black people don't swim" thing? I've never heard of this in my life, so I am doubly surprised to find so many people backing it annecdotally. Is this up there with "black people don't eat mayonaise," which seems a bizzarre and random thing to assert but apparently is annecdotally borne out? Where the hell do these kind of strange, seemingly fairly neutral, stereotypes come from?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-30-2003 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds
The OM hates being called cafe au lait and prefers the wildly inaccurate mochaccino.
Double Tall, Grande or Venti?

TexLex 09-30-2003 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
A place with the nation's largest w/in city park and a decent freak quotient (though I still don't know what the trannie was doing in the 'burbs); a place with more strip clubs per capita than any other city in America; a place with good beer and shitty salaries. In other words, the same place I am now. If that's outable, well, fuck it.
Big park, check.
Plenty freaks, check.
Tittie bars galore, check....

This sounds terribly familiar.

-TL

robustpuppy 09-30-2003 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by AngryMulletMan
So, like, I keep having this recurring nightmare over and over where I show up for a test I never studied for. It's an algebra test and it's my evidence professor giving the test and he is really pissed because I skipped class for the entire semester. So he asks me what I know about algebra and my bubble totally bursts and to top it off, I miss the school bus home and have to walk all the way back, twenty miles, all uphill and I am so, like, out of shrooms.

So then I wake up and I am, like, totally pissed because I realize that going to work every fucking day sucks way more than flunking exams ever did.

And I'm not taking any fucking tests on the internet to tell me whether I am going to hell because I am, like, so totally there.
Why did you take a hiatus from posting? Welcome back from lurkland!

greatwhitenorthchick 09-30-2003 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Anne Elk
So to rephrase my earlier statement: none of my friends from Senegal, Kenya, Trinidad & Tobago, Haiti, Aruba, Jamaica, Brooklyn, or Springfield, Mass. know how to swim. The guy from Bermuda does, kinda.
This is silly (not you Anne, just this debate). My brother in law + nieces (black African although nieces are peculiarly considered white because of white mother) swim well because they are rich and swim at the freaking Nairobi club whenever they get the urge and they vacation in Mombassa and the Seychelles. I very much doubt that their housekeeper, gardener, nannies or driver knows how to swim because they are poor. Nothing to do with skin color. Everything to do with access to safe water (requires money).


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