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Adder 07-10-2017 10:40 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508632)

North Korea is working to develop the technology of the 1960s and we're going to consider going to war over it?

Tyrone Slothrop 07-10-2017 10:54 AM

Re: Bernie 2020
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508639)
Disrupting is valley talk for mansplaining, right?

Rebecca Solnit is from San Francisco, which is where most of the startups are these days.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-10-2017 11:28 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508641)
North Korea is working to develop the technology of the 1960s and we're going to consider going to war over it?

You'd prefer going to war over Iran developing the technology of the 60s?

Adder 07-10-2017 11:42 AM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508643)
You'd prefer going to war over Iran developing the technology of the 60s?

I'd prefer that we figure out that draggin these processes out for 2-3 decades is a win and realize that it's not possible to put a 70+ year old cat back in the bag.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-10-2017 12:26 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508644)
I'd prefer that we figure out that draggin these processes out for 2-3 decades is a win and realize that it's not possible to put a 70+ year old cat back in the bag.

Look on the bright side: it's a chance to blame something on the opposition and get into a war to distract us from other things.

Tyrone Slothrop 07-10-2017 01:00 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508645)
Look on the bright side: it's a chance to blame something on the opposition and get into a war to distract us from other things.

I believe even Trump understands there is no upside for him to doing anything different with North Korea.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-10-2017 02:18 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508646)
I believe even Trump understands there is no upside for him to doing anything different with North Korea.

Depends on how close Mueller is getting....

ThurgreedMarshall 07-10-2017 02:42 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508641)
North Korea is working to develop the technology of the 1960s and we're going to consider going to war over it?

Uh...I suppose if we have the technology to shoot whatever piece of shit ICBM they manage to produce out of the sky, I'd be with you. But that little fucker might actually be crazy enough to fire a missile at Hawaii.

That said, I'm sure he can be paid off not to. And I'm sure Trump ain't the guy to figure this out. But this is serious shit.

TM

Tyrone Slothrop 07-10-2017 03:23 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 508648)
Uh...I suppose if we have the technology to shoot whatever piece of shit ICBM they manage to produce out of the sky, I'd be with you. But that little fucker might actually be crazy enough to fire a missile at Hawaii.

He doesn't need advanced technology to kill an awful lot of people in Seoul, and Tokyo isn't that far away either.

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That said, I'm sure he can be paid off not to. And I'm sure Trump ain't the guy to figure this out. But this is serious shit.
It's totally rational for the North Koreans to want a deterrent, and to use tension with us to prop up their regime.

Adder 07-10-2017 03:37 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 508648)
Uh...I suppose if we have the technology to shoot whatever piece of shit ICBM they manage to produce out of the sky, I'd be with you. But that little fucker might actually be crazy enough to fire a missile at Hawaii.

That said, I'm sure he can be paid off not to. And I'm sure Trump ain't the guy to figure this out. But this is serious shit.

TM

It's serious shit without a military solution. It's also serious shit that we can only hope to stop by agreement.

ThurgreedMarshall 07-10-2017 03:47 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508649)
He doesn't need advanced technology to kill an awful lot of people in Seoul, and Tokyo isn't that far away either.

True. But do you trust Trump to keep our allies safe?

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508649)
It's totally rational for the North Koreans to want a deterrent, and to use tension with us to prop up their regime.

Is anyone arguing that it isn't? My point is that Kim is fucking nuts.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 07-10-2017 03:49 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508650)
It's serious shit without a military solution. It's also serious shit that we can only hope to stop by agreement.

I'm sorry. It seems I'm talking about the reality of the situation given who currently sits in office. We're not talking about Obama, Clinton, or even Bush. Kim is crazy. Trump is crazy. Do you think there's no possibility of Trump "solving" this with a military solution?

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 07-10-2017 04:04 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 508652)
I'm sorry. It seems I'm talking about the reality of the situation given who currently sits in office. We're not talking about Obama, Clinton, or even Bush. Kim is crazy. Trump is crazy. Do you think there's no possibility of Trump "solving" this with a military solution?

TM

Here's our problem.

There is no solution without radically changing our idea of the President as Commander in Chief or getting rid of Trump.

ThurgreedMarshall 07-10-2017 04:13 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508653)
Here's our problem.

There is no solution without radically changing our idea of the President as Commander in Chief or getting rid of Trump.

Because he didn't hit Syria with a strike without approval?

TM

Tyrone Slothrop 07-10-2017 04:26 PM

Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 508651)
True. But do you trust Trump to keep our allies safe?

With regard to North Korea, pretty much, as I don't think he will see much upside in making trouble, and I think the status quo can continue indefinitely.

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Is anyone arguing that it isn't? My point is that Kim is fucking nuts.
Why? My point is that he acts pretty rationally.


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