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Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 04-29-2015 07:04 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 495827)
Lest I be accused of being a wee bit over the top about my disdain for the Carter Administration, I will note for the record that Fleetwood Mac's Rumors was released in 1977 shortly after Jimmy's inauguration, and that is a fucking awesome (albeit somewhat overplayed) album.

And Jimmy Buffett's Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes was also released in early 1977. While Margaritaville sucks up all the oxygen (for better or worse) regarding that album, surely everyone here will mainly agree that I am mostly correct when I say that the title track is most excellent. Good times and riches, and son of a bitches, indeed.

Carry on.

That is so very Not Bob. I suppose I can't tie Carter to UK releases, but at home, and better:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ssia_cover.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lbum_cover.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...k_In_Color.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...g_Heads_77.jpg

Hank Chinaski 04-29-2015 07:12 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 495828)

So you're giving Gerald Ford credit for The Ramones? Roxy's Country Life credit to Nixon?

Pretty Little Flower 04-29-2015 08:47 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 495827)
Lest I be accused of being a wee bit over the top about my disdain for the Carter Administration, I will note for the record that Fleetwood Mac's Rumors was released in 1977 shortly after Jimmy's inauguration, and that is a fucking awesome (albeit somewhat overplayed) album.

And Jimmy Buffett's Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes was also released in early 1977. While Margaritaville sucks up all the oxygen (for better or worse) regarding that album, surely everyone here will mainly agree that I am mostly correct when I say that the title track is most excellent. Good times and riches, and son of a bitches, indeed.

Carry on.

Don't think for a second that I don't see you over here, prattling on about your dusty 70s AOR.

Hank Chinaski 04-29-2015 09:32 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
I took con law pass/fail, but this must be wrong on some level, like maybe not treason but not especially good citizenship?

Hank Chinaski 04-29-2015 09:33 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 495830)
Don't think for a second that I don't see you over here, prattling on about your dusty 70s AOR.

what is your fave Jimmy buffet LP?

Tyrone Slothrop 04-30-2015 01:31 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Pandering to wingnuts seems like a bad idea.

Not Bob 04-30-2015 09:29 AM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 495828)

Of all the Not Bobs, I am the Not Bobbiest.

Ah, Cheap Trick - I always think of them as springing onto the scene the following year, fully-formed like Athena from the forehead of Zeus, with the release of Live in Budokan. But that is merely my memory of how they sprung into my awareness.

And my list was not meant to be all-inclusive, and I simply picked the first two albums that I was aware of in 1977 and think are, even now, good. (To be clear, Rumors is a stone-cold classic, while Changes is just (hah! "just") really good.) I mean, I didn't mention Elvis Costello's My Aim is True because I wasn't introduced to it until several years later.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-30-2015 09:35 AM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 495829)
So you're giving Gerald Ford credit for The Ramones? Roxy's Country Life credit to Nixon?

I definitely think Nixon should get some credit for Roxy's Country Life. I'd give him credit for all of Woodstock in a way.

Carter gets credit for the heyday of CBGBs. That was on his watch. We're talking Patti Smith here. The Stilettos. Joan Jett. The Shirts. He was also in the big house for the birth of Rap. Grandmaster Flash. Sugarhill Gang. Gil Scott Heron.

Carter was the man.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-30-2015 09:37 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Texans are often not fond of the constitution. I'm glad the government is finally taking action to represss them.

But it doesn't seem entirely fair to Utah.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-30-2015 09:42 AM

Re: I see rainbows everywhere!
 
I wish we could get Congressmen to just say no to drugs.

Sidd Finch 04-30-2015 10:31 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Someone has to watch out for the black helicopters, no?

Sidd Finch 04-30-2015 10:33 AM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
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Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 495828)



Yeah, but John Bonham died while Carter was in office. Worse yet, his death was too late to prevent the release of In Through The Out Door.

sebastian_dangerfield 04-30-2015 12:22 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 495828)
That is so very Not Bob. I suppose I can't tie Carter to UK releases, but at home, and better:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ls-Frontal.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ex_Pistols.png

sebastian_dangerfield 04-30-2015 12:25 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 495839)
Yeah, but John Bonham died while Carter was in office. Worse yet, his death was too late to prevent the release of In Through The Out Door.

"All of My Love" is basically Elvis. But I have a soft spot for "In the Evening."

If I had to kill one Zeppelin record, it'd be:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-_Presence.jpg

Yeah, "Achilles' Last Stand" is decent, but the rest of it sounds intentionally off tempo. Miserably unfun record.

sebastian_dangerfield 04-30-2015 12:47 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 495794)
Of course, if you are looking for looting, look no further than Fox, who makes a fortune abusing, insulting and maligning the victims of police behavior.

If I hear one more fucking white suburban douchebag, or clueless fucking soccer mom, talk about how that woman who admonished her son for rioting on camera is a "hero," I'm going to snap the bottom of my martini glass off and spear them in the eye with it... until it punctures their cerebral cortex.

Jesus Fucking Christ. Motherfucker. Goddammit! Fuck, fuck, fuck! The city is on fire due to protests that have to do with police brutality and decades of govt policies that are turning lower middle class areas into third world slums. Now, we might disagree about what should be done about these things. Frankly, I don't think the situation is fixable. But what's not up for debate is that the situation exists, and has been caused in significant part by govt policies and changes in the global economy! The most important and interesting aspect of this thing is not that some Black mother is mad at her son for rioting. And anyone who elevates such a peripheral bit of the story to prominence betrays one of the following:

1. Idiocy (you're actually stupid enough to think the mother/son scene is as important as the broader issues underpinning the riot);
2. Head in Sand-ism (you'd rather focus on any bit of the story that seems possibly positive and allows you to ignore or avoid discussion of the broader issues underpinning the riot); or,
3. Dickheadedness (you're an asshole looking for any way to blame the rioters exclusively, and absolve the system/status quo, which you happen to like, from any responsibility).

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-30-2015 12:51 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Long Hot Summer

Adder 04-30-2015 01:33 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 495842)
Black mother is mad at her son for rioting.

Was she mad at him for rioting or scared that he would end up like Freddie Gray?

LessinSF 04-30-2015 01:38 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
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Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 495828)

Fuck that shite. The Dead Boys - Young Loud and Snotty.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 04-30-2015 01:48 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 495842)
If I hear one more fucking white suburban douchebag, or clueless fucking soccer mom, talk about how that woman who admonished her son for rioting on camera is a "hero," I'm going to snap the bottom of my martini glass off and spear them in the eye with it... until it punctures their cerebral cortex.

Jesus Fucking Christ. Motherfucker. Goddammit! Fuck, fuck, fuck! The city is on fire due to protests that have to do with police brutality and decades of govt policies that are turning lower middle class areas into third world slums. Now, we might disagree about what should be done about these things. Frankly, I don't think the situation is fixable. But what's not up for debate is that the situation exists, and has been caused in significant part by govt policies and changes in the global economy! The most important and interesting aspect of this thing is not that some Black mother is mad at her son for rioting. And anyone who elevates such a peripheral bit of the story to prominence betrays one of the following:

1. Idiocy (you're actually stupid enough to think the mother/son scene is as important as the broader issues underpinning the riot);
2. Head in Sand-ism (you'd rather focus on any bit of the story that seems possibly positive and allows you to ignore or avoid discussion of the broader issues underpinning the riot); or,
3. Dickheadedness (you're an asshole looking for any way to blame the rioters exclusively, and absolve the system/status quo, which you happen to like, from any responsibility).

I have found that if you ignore twitter, yahoo/yahoo comments, espn comments, and use facebook infrequently, these type of inane soccer mom comments (or any other idiocy) cease to exist. It's glorious - try it out.

Pretty Little Flower 04-30-2015 02:58 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 495832)
what is your fave Jimmy buffet LP?

The one about parrots and old pot-bellied white dudes in horrible fucking shirts.

Hank Chinaski 04-30-2015 03:04 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 495842)
If I hear one more fucking white suburban douchebag, or clueless fucking soccer mom, talk about how that woman who admonished her son for rioting on camera is a "hero," I'm going to snap the bottom of my martini glass off and spear them in the eye with it... until it punctures their cerebral cortex.

Jesus Fucking Christ. Motherfucker. Goddammit! Fuck, fuck, fuck! The city is on fire due to protests that have to do with police brutality and decades of govt policies that are turning lower middle class areas into third world slums. Now, we might disagree about what should be done about these things. Frankly, I don't think the situation is fixable. But what's not up for debate is that the situation exists, and has been caused in significant part by govt policies and changes in the global economy! The most important and interesting aspect of this thing is not that some Black mother is mad at her son for rioting. And anyone who elevates such a peripheral bit of the story to prominence betrays one of the following:

1. Idiocy (you're actually stupid enough to think the mother/son scene is as important as the broader issues underpinning the riot);
2. Head in Sand-ism (you'd rather focus on any bit of the story that seems possibly positive and allows you to ignore or avoid discussion of the broader issues underpinning the riot); or,
3. Dickheadedness (you're an asshole looking for any way to blame the rioters exclusively, and absolve the system/status quo, which you happen to like, from any responsibility).

I'm not sure the "!" after "global economy" works there. I believe you want the reader to take the sentence as a given, a foul truth perhaps, but not something that could be questioned. The "!" seems inappropriate for that, and weakens the argument.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 04-30-2015 03:24 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 495847)
The one about parrots and old pot-bellied white dudes in horrible fucking shirts.

So...Migration?

I know almost every Buffett song. As a wee lad in the '80s my parents consistently played:
  • James Taylor
  • Bob Dylan
  • Bonnie Raitt
  • Jackson Browne
  • CCR
  • Jimmy Buffett
  • Rolling Stones

It's weird hearing a Buffett song now (30 years later) and knowing the words.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-30-2015 03:25 PM

Re: Not my half, of course
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 495847)
The one about parrots and old pot-bellied white dudes in horrible fucking shirts.

Damn man. Just insult half the board.

Pretty Little Flower 04-30-2015 04:35 PM

Re: Not my half, of course
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 495850)
Damn man. Just insult half the board.

There are parrots on this board? That's unsettling.

Hank Chinaski 04-30-2015 04:40 PM

Re: Not my half, of course
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 495851)
There are parrots on this board? That's unsettling.

I'll give you unsettling. NotBob and I are becoming friends IRL when I visit where he lives. So far we meet at bars, but if things keep moving forward eventually I expect I'll be invited to his house, and then he controls the music:confused: Any advice?

Adder 04-30-2015 04:42 PM

Re: Not my half, of course
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 495851)
There are parrots on this board? That's unsettling.

Give us a kiss.
http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/Pictur...ToStCyrils.jpg

LessinSF 04-30-2015 05:54 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 495849)
So...Migration?

I know almost every Buffett song. As a wee lad in the '80s my parents consistently played:
  • James Taylor
  • Bob Dylan
  • Bonnie Raitt
  • Jackson Browne
  • CCR
  • Jimmy Buffett
  • Rolling Stones

It's weird hearing a Buffett song now (30 years later) and knowing the words.

You were lucky. i know the words to every Harry Nilsson song.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 04-30-2015 06:43 PM

Could it be a faded rose from days gone by?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 495854)
You were lucky. i know the words to every Harry Nilsson song.

Helen Reddy. Anne Murray. Fuck you.

Sidd Finch 04-30-2015 08:22 PM

Re: Could it be a faded rose from days gone by?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 495855)
Helen Reddy. Anne Murray. Fuck you.

I know show tunes. Grease, Man of la Mancha, Jesus Christ Superstar... I could go on and on -- we went to Broadway a lot, and then heard the albums over and over again.

It's a wonder I'm not gay, come to think of it.

Pretty Little Flower 04-30-2015 10:35 PM

Re: Could it be a faded rose from days gone by?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 495855)
Helen Reddy. Anne Murray. Fuck you.

Throbbing Gristle. You've Got Foetus On Your Breath. FUCK YOU.

sebastian_dangerfield 04-30-2015 11:27 PM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 495854)
You were lucky. i know the words to every Harry Nilsson song.

"Jump in the Fire"... Good times. Mom was so happy and played that song over and over an over again late at night. She'd sleep until 3:00 the next day!

sebastian_dangerfield 04-30-2015 11:31 PM

Re: Could it be a faded rose from days gone by?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 495858)
Throbbing Gristle. You've Got Foetus On Your Breath. FUCK YOU.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NhPYzF-mDy...us+a+Fetus.jpg

Not Bob 05-01-2015 10:45 AM

She's 41 and her daddy still calls her "baby."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 495855)
Helen Reddy. Anne Murray. Fuck you.

I'll take "AM radio in the mid 1970s" for $500, Alex.

I'm pretty sure in older than you and Less (and I know I'm a damn bit holder than Young Coltrane), and I was the youngest of 5, so the music my parents listened to in my youth did not include Harry, Helen, Anne, or Jimmy. Mom was a fan of big bands - especially Tommy Dorsey recordings when Sinatra was his singer.

Dad (as older brother Not Nick puts it) "liked both kinds of music - country AND western." His favorite two albums were Johnny Cash's Live at Folsom Prison and Johnny Horton's Greatest Hits. When sufficiently motivated, I can still sing A Boy Named Sue and Sink the Bismarck to great acclaim.

Anyway, I still blame Jimmy Carter for James Watt, Ed Mease, and the virtual destruction of Head Start. And did we have all of these food poisoning recalls (ice cream now? Wtf?) before Reagan gutted the USDA?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-01-2015 11:02 AM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 495854)
You were lucky. i know the words to every Harry Nilsson song.

I've never heard of him.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-01-2015 11:02 AM

Re: Could it be a faded rose from days gone by?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 495855)
Helen Reddy. Anne Murray. Fuck you.

Don't know who Helen Reddy is.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-01-2015 11:07 AM

Re: Could it be a faded rose from days gone by?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 495858)
Throbbing Gristle. You've Got Foetus On Your Breath. FUCK YOU.

I had to google this to see if it was a real musical act.

Pretty Little Flower 05-01-2015 11:28 AM

Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 495862)
I've never heard of him.

He's never heard of you either.

Pretty Little Flower 05-01-2015 11:30 AM

Re: Could it be a faded rose from days gone by?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 495863)
Don't know who Helen Reddy is.

"I Am Helen Reddy - If you don't know who I am, watch this."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xhVxpx7aCQ

Pretty Little Flower 05-01-2015 11:31 AM

Re: Could it be a faded rose from days gone by?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 495864)
I had to google this to see if it was a real musical act.

They have never Googled you. But surely you know the predecessor group to Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel.

Pretty Little Flower 05-01-2015 11:36 AM

Re: Could it be a faded rose from days gone by?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 495866)
"I Am Helen Reddy - If you don't know who I am, watch this."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xhVxpx7aCQ

O.K., so this was actually rather endearing. Good for Helen!


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