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It sort of freaks us out how cool they are. They went dancing at a gay bar on one of my brother's birthdays a few years ago, and the next day at La Strada brunch, half the crowd was asking us where our parents were and when they were coming. My dad sort of assumes that he exudes straightness, so he's never bothered walking into gay bars or whatever.

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So many people just do not understand this. A person would lose TONS of weight if they would eat just two HoHos per day, and would gain weight if they ate 3,000 calories per day of sugar free snacks, fat free pretzels, granola and other "healthy" foods.

Not that I advocate eating two HoHos per day (except maybe Slave should), but a lot of people are not satisfied unless they have some fat, so they consume WAY too many calories of low fat foods.

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My burrito consumption has not changed at all. Its about two to four a week as it always has been. Five on a good week. However now I say to myself, Mmmmmm a delicious 900 calorie burrito, thanks burger ! every time. But if I had guilt over burritos, I would probably eat less. I dont bc they are comprised of protein (beans and rice) veggies and salsa and "easy on the cheese" bc too much cheese is gnarly. Oh, and there is a flour tortilla for energy. Quite frankly, I dont think they are unhealhty. I am not discussing the chips.




Right, bc that is exactly what I am recommending.



Because I cant work with the bold edit hassle thing, read my comments in the brackets if you were gonna skip the burger quote bc you already read it.

The thing I hate about fatties is they take up precious sidewalk space. Ditto umbrellas and double ditto the dread combination of the two. I also hate when they stand on the left side of the metro escalator or drive excessively the three blocks to the fast food emporrum bc its more annoying traffic clogging the crosswalks. And the honking! I hate mc donalds bc of the rainforest issues, the poor animals that are eaten en masse and the littering tendencies of its clientele. Otherwise, I dont give a flying fuck. I think my oeuvre of posts has demonstrated this more than people have cared to read. You are clearly conflating my posts with the fatist stuff expressed here today. Fat people make me look good.not quite

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Amen to that. Why else would I hire fat paralegals and not force my hubby to shape up? This is also why I love my sister -- short of me gaining 100lbs, being brain dead and living in a box under the interstate I always have someone whose life makes mine look better.:D

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Not if the fatties are dying younger, the insufferable Harold Bloom notwithstanding, while the non-fatties ("thinnies") are lingering on into senescence, soaking younger fatties for their geriatric care.

This topic is big, self-congratulatory, never-ending circle jerk.

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New nominee for board motto?

Oh, and, E/O, I missed Paradise Hotel, so no report from me... Sorry...

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What, you thought you could get away from it if you ditched the politics board.

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I say the same thing in defense of smokers and drinkers. Why the fuck are people so pissed about our "bad" habits when statistically we are doomed to take a dirt nap before we can even dream of collecting social security? I think, however that fatties are different because most smokers and drinkers tend to get sick and die quick while fatties just have years of related expensive health problems. I realize that some smokers may linger with health problems but those are probably the ones who quit smoking before the full effect could be realized.

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On the PB, a self-congratulatory circle jerk is way vanilla. We're really more into S&M and body mortification.

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See, and that's what I don't understand. Either you care or you don't about the calorie content. If weight's not an issue, or your appetite isn't, then the calories are irrelevant. And if the calories (and other stuff) is and issue, then you should thank me for informing you.

I don't care about the calories in a slice of cake because I don't eat a slice of cake too often. But if I'm deciding what to have for lunch on a regular basis (or not), I want to know if it's good for me, or not so much. Seems responsible, not girly.

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Yeah, that liver cirrhosis and lung cancer just kills people overnight.

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A Real Man is so busy punching cattle, welding I-beams and lifting barges and toting bales that he not only has no time to worry about such sissy things, he quickly burns off anything he does manage to kill and eat.

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Fair enough. I promise to jump off of a cliff at 60.

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I think that in many cases it does attack people rather quickly. Not overnight, but many in under a year. I also think that smokers and drinkers tend to realize their illnesses later in the game -- like smokers are used to having a cough and don't go to a doctor until they cough up half a cancerous lung one day. Most smokers and drinkers I know just don't go to the doctor very often. On the other hand, the fatties I know seem to be otherwise very concerned about their health and go to the doctor for every ache and pain (but would never admit that the extra tonnage may be causing the problems). Not saying that smoker and drinkers are tougher or something but I think they, in general, don't seem to give as much of a shit.

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It seems obsessive. Eat healthy and in moderation with the occsasionl treat and you are fine. I count the number of fruits and veggies I eat in a day to make sure I get enough. I know a burrito is high in calories but is super filling and nutritious. What else do I need to know? Do I need to nkow they are 946 calories? Eat right and enjoy. Unless you are lucky enough to be as fabulous as GWNC, and as underweight, in which case, the rules dont apply.

Edited to add that the only issue I had with what you said originally when I opened this can of worms is that I think calorie counting is annoying on gals and more than annoying on men. Its annoying bc it is obsessive. Keep your idiosyncracies to yourself. Otherwsei I think we mostly agree.