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Hank Chinaski 01-10-2006 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by viet_mom
2. There is no way he will ever recover from seeing those pics (or worse, reading the text of the profile). I can only hope she has developed a convincing argument about how her face (and distinctive tattoos) were superimposed on someone else's body (maybe you could show them your own handiwork) Problem is -- the background is their living room and bathroom. I guess it's too late to claim rape. She had better think of something.
Conf. to Fringey- don't worry- if your dad has/does find out about your act it won't bother him- to be bothered would go against every old hippie fibre in his being: If it feels good do it!

ltl/fb 01-10-2006 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Conf. to Fringey- don't worry- if your dad has/does find out about your act it won't bother him- to be bothered would go against every old hippie fibre in his being: If it feels good do it!
My dad now admires Ashcroft and thinks sex ed is bad and torture is fine and dandy.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-10-2006 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by viet_mom
The "to" line only had one name on it -- her friend. There were no other recipients listed so I don't know why it got sent to everyone. Is it possible that this could happen accidentally? Or maybe she put in the person's name but when she went to hit "send" she hit some option of sending to her entire mailbox? Or the intended recipient was part of a group (including me) that she normally sends jokes to and the computer thought, then, that everyone should be sent the email? Final guess: an error when she created a group (when she saved her group of different people for jokes, she misnamed the group "Sheila" so when she hit "Sheila" it didn't just go to Sheila but the whole group.) I dunno. Sucks to be her though. And probably her sex drive is not that high this week.
Sounds like a setup to me. If only one person was in the To field, everyone else was a blind copy. That's pretty tough to do automatically, unless she created an "all" group and put that in the bcc field.

Well, fun for her.

TexLex 01-10-2006 04:23 PM

Vietmom's Porno Princess Babysitter
 
Vietmom,

I agree - it sounds like she has "groups" set up - she probably has one group for jokes and such and another for whatever you would call her email and she hit the wrong one - that would perhaps explain why there is only one person listed in the "to" category.

I (used to before I quit law) have several groups set up for different boards of directors and almost sent out the wrong email to the wrong group on a few occasions, so it's easy to do, esp. if you have them similarly named, whcih might be the case here. Maybe you should suggest she change her group names to "Friends and Family (Do Not Send Porn!!!)" and "People who Like Nekkie Pictures of Me."

-TL

Flinty_McFlint 01-10-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by TexLex
Vietmom,

I agree - it sounds like she has "groups" set up - she probably has one group for jokes and such and another for whatever you would call her email and she hit the wrong one - that would perhaps explain why there is only one person listed in the "to" category.

I (used to before I quit law) have several groups set up for different boards of directors and almost sent out the wrong email to the wrong group on a few occasions, so it's easy to do, esp. if you have them similarly named, whcih might be the case here. Maybe you should suggest she change her group names to "Friends and Family (Do Not Send Porn!!!)" and "People who Like Nekkie Pictures of Me."

-TL
I'm so glad I'm on the latter list.

viet_mom 01-10-2006 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
I'm so glad I'm on the latter list.
I'm certain you'd want to be on the former list and that I've been way too subtle (b/c I'm Klassy) about what the pictures show. Even dirty little monkeys like yourself wouldn't do those things.

(Oh, nevermind. It's a Japanese thing.)

TexLex 01-10-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
I'm so glad I'm on the latter list.
To clarify, those were not the two titles of my corporations groups.

ltl/fb 01-10-2006 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by viet_mom
I'm certain you'd want to be on the former list and that I've been way too subtle (b/c I'm Klassy) about what the pictures show. Even dirty little monkeys like yourself wouldn't do those things.

(Oh, nevermind. It's a Japanese thing.)
So more than one guy at a time? Nifty. Though, I would not be into what I think you are talking about.

viet_mom 01-10-2006 05:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
You should suggest she change her group names to "Friends and Family (Do Not Send Porn!!!)" and "People who Like Nekkie Pictures of Me."
Agree. Though I think email is the last of her worries. Given the email's content and the recipients, she's going to need something really drastic (she was possessed by the devil? The pics are of a clone who is being harvested for excess body parts and the clone was just having fun wasting time pre-harvest?). Even if she makes up a story to her parents that no fool would believe, she'll HAVE to insist on the story anyway - no way could they continue talking if she admitted the authenticity of the pics. One of those things where the parents will be relieved she is lying no matter how obvious the lie is.

Replaced_Texan 01-10-2006 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by viet_mom
Agree. Though I think email is the last of her worries. Given the email's content and the recipients, she's going to need something really drastic (she was possessed by the devil? The pics are of a clone who is being harvested for excess body parts and the clone was just having fun wasting time pre-harvest?). Even if she makes up a story to her parents that no fool would believe, she'll HAVE to insist on the story anyway - no way could they continue talking if she admitted the authenticity of the pics. One of those things where the parents will be relieved she is lying no matter how obvious the lie is.
She has to find Jesus, renounce her evil former ways, and all will be forgiven.

I suspect that's what Marcus Vick will be doing in the next couple of months.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 01-10-2006 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
She has to find Jesus, renounce her evil former ways, and all will be forgiven.

I suspect that's what Marcus Vick will be doing in the next couple of months.
I hear Marcus had a corncob up his ass when he was stomping that dude.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-10-2006 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
I hear Marcus had a corncob up his ass when he was stomping that dude.
And a giant pumpkin when he pulled the gun on the three teens at the Kwik-E-Mart?

ltl/fb 01-10-2006 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And a giant pumpkin when he pulled the gun on the three teens at the Kwik-E-Mart?
Even a regular-sized acorn squash wouldn't go there. Trust me on this.*

*or not. I'm just trying to be noirish on the internet.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 01-10-2006 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And a giant pumpkin when he pulled the gun on the three teens at the Kwik-E-Mart?
Sounding rods. Ask Shapeshifter.

TexLex 01-11-2006 12:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by viet_mom
One of those things where the parents will be relieved she is lying no matter how obvious the lie is.
Like how I was a virgin until marriage even though I was living with him beforehand? Before they came over, I would throw a bed pillow on the couch so they could think (if they wanted to) that someone was sleeping there.

Secret_Agent_Man 01-11-2006 03:15 PM

Baby stuff
 
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Originally posted by tmdiva
Infant seats: for both kids we've started out with an infant seat, then switched to a convertible when they outgrow it.
I know I'm late to the party, but I now feel a bit guilty because we left both kids in the infant carrier until 1 year, even though their little feet were hanging over the edge (in one case) or close. Fortunately they did not die.

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Originally posted by tmdiva
Convertible seats: I'm a big fan of the Britax seats. We have a Roundabout that Magnus used, and the 40 lb weight limit got us to about age 4 (he's on the tall side but rather skinny). If I were buying a new convertible now, I'd probably go with one of the higher weight limit seats like the Marathon or Decathlon.
I wholeheartedly second the Britax reccomendation. Pricey but excellent features, quality, and (relative) ease of use.

We have two -- a Roundabout and a Marathon. (The Marathon is too damn big for us to have two in a back seat -- as we don't drive H2s.)

As to seats, kids are all different of course. The swing was a great idea for the first, second never liked it. The bouncy seat is good -- but quickly loses its utility if you have a big kid (ass on the ground is not as fun). The vibrating chair/seat worked a bit, but not for too long.

As to allergies -- when I was a single man, and/or married w/o children, I decried the increase in food allergies and attendant hypersensitivity to such issues as a sign that our culture/species is getting soft as technology removes the impediments to and effort required for basic survival (much like the increase in folks wearing glasses).

Now that I am a parent, even with (so-far) allergy-free children, I understand better. (But am still sympathetic to Hank's gut reaction.) Having been alerted to a potential danger and having made promises, the school should not have broken those promises. I would be angry too, but I am not litigious by nature. There may be a legal remedy, but should the parents really sue?

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man 01-11-2006 03:16 PM

Allergies
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
my kids' school wouldn't let my wife bring red and green M&M to the Holiday party,
You lie.

Secret_Agent_Man 01-11-2006 03:25 PM

Child Abuse?
 
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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Wow. She went way too far. I would have picked up my own kid and carried her off the bus. But that's just me.

Kind of makes you wonder though... where was the bus driver during all of this?
Sitting right there, afraid to do anything to maintain order because nowadays people get arrested for even touching young punks.

Catholic schools (or similar private schools) remain the way to go. The old debate was "Did they take them better or make them better?" I say, who cares?

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man 01-11-2006 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
this is mom and dad board-

I feel bad for her dad. that would really suck to see my daughter that far out there.
Indeed. There are a lot of things one should not know, even about immediate relatives.

S_A_M

dtb 01-11-2006 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Indeed. There are a lot of things one should not know, even about immediate relatives.

S_A_M
One might even say especially about immediate relatives.

Hank Chinaski 01-11-2006 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
One might even say especially about immediate relatives.
that Sock called me a liar and you converse with it? You better learn what side your bread is buttered on.

dtb 01-11-2006 05:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
that Sock called me a liar and you converse with it? You better learn what side your bread is buttered on.
Hank, dearest, are you on the drugs again?

Hank Chinaski 01-11-2006 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
Hank, dearest, are you on the drugs again?
Let me be frank, Shape Shifter and i are worried about some of your new friends, like this SAM- he's seems a bad apple, and he smells of burnt rope.

Secret_Agent_Man 01-13-2006 01:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Let me be frank, Shape Shifter and i are worried about some of your new friends, like this SAM- he's seems a bad apple, and he smells of burnt rope.
NTTAWWT.

Anyhow, so your wife was truly forbidden from bringing red and green M&Ms? Holy smokes. You should move.

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man 01-18-2006 01:55 PM

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Gosh, I killed it. :eek:

I did not realize that I was _dangerously_ dull.

S_A_M

TexLex 01-21-2006 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I did not realize that I was _dangerously_ dull.
Sorry you had to find out this way.

tmdiva 01-24-2006 07:03 PM

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So, I'm looking to buy a non-electric breast pump. Just for making the occasional bottle and for getting a little milk to mix with cereal, etc. I've been using the piston-action hand setup with the Medela kit I had to buy when I rented a hospital unit, but it's quite ineffective--hand-expressing is faster.

Anyone use one they like?

tm

mommylawyer 01-24-2006 09:43 PM

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I LOVED my AVENT hand pump. I had it during my first pregnancy and never used it. With my second, my daughter had latching problems and so if she got on one side well, I let her stay there and just used my hand pump. Man, it was better than the electric for me. If I had known this, I'd never spent hundreds of dollars on 2 electric ones. I got more milk, and expressed faster with the AVENT. Although we aren't plannning on another, i still won't toss my hand pump just in case we have an oops!

ml




Quote:

Originally posted by tmdiva
So, I'm looking to buy a non-electric breast pump. Just for making the occasional bottle and for getting a little milk to mix with cereal, etc. I've been using the piston-action hand setup with the Medela kit I had to buy when I rented a hospital unit, but it's quite ineffective--hand-expressing is faster.

Anyone use one they like?

tm

TexLex 01-24-2006 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by tmdiva
Pump...Anyone use one they like?
On my mommyboard, the Avent Isis consistently gets very high marks for occasional use (ie. once daily or less). I've only used my PIS, which I love, so I don't have firsthand (firstboob?) knowledge to offer.

SEC_Chick 01-25-2006 10:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by tmdiva

Anyone use one they like?

tm
Ditto on the no personal experience on this, but on all of the boards that I follow, the Avent Isis is the only one recommended. It was also the one suggested by the LC who taught my bfing class. She also recommended not getting one by a company that doesn't specialize in bfing/pumping (like gerber or evenflo), because they all suck... in a bad way.

How deranged is it that whenever I think about pumping/BFing, every time I get Madonna's song, Express Yourself, stuck in my head?

viet_mom 01-30-2006 08:13 PM

Math is Hard
 
Today, I dropped off Vietbabe at daycare, and two different classrooms were playing outside, with only 2 teachers. I counted 27 kiddos, the teacher said there were 25. I think they would still be over-ratio, even with 25 Vietbabe's class has kids from 3-4 1/2 I think, and the other class I think was from 4-5. State law ratios:

5 year olds: 1 caregiver : 15 kids
4 year olds: 1:12
2-4 year olds: 1:10

If, out of the 25 kids, seven of them were in the other class and that other class had a ratio of 1:14 (that's what it says in their classroom), that means 18 kids had to have a ratio of either 1:10 or 1:12. I think most of the 18 kids are under 4, so let's go with 1:10. Based on all that, can anyone say if they were over-quota today when the rule for mixing ages says: "When children of mixed ages requiring different staff/child ratiochild ratio:mixed ages"s are in one room or area within a large divided room, the center shall compute the staff/child ratios applicable for each group separately to the nearest tenth decimal. If the resulting cumulative figure for all age groups is any fraction above a whole number, an additional staff member shall be required."

How bout if there were 26 kids out there (the extra kid being in the 1:10 ratio).

Wow. Math really is hard. Either way, the place was utter mayhem and I was not pleased especially since I'm paying 1,100 a month, which should get me better care (hah).

Thank you to any kind people out there with Math skillz.

TexLex 01-30-2006 11:57 PM

Math is Hard
 
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Originally posted by viet_mom
Math is way hard.
Too many kids. My mom teaches preschool. Pre-k. She has max. 10 kids and usually a helper in the room, which, as far as I'm concerned, is still too many 4yos in one building.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-31-2006 09:36 AM

Math is Hard
 
Quote:

Originally posted by viet_mom


Thank you to any kind people out there with Math skillz.
What you need are not math skillz, but skillz like determining which is better: complaining and not getting good care or shutting up; talking to the city and having hte place put out of business or suffering along.

viet_mom 01-31-2006 12:27 PM

Skills
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What you need are not math skillz, but skillz like determining which is better: complaining and not getting good care or shutting up; talking to the city and having hte place put out of business or suffering along.
Agree. I just wanted to be accurate in the phrases I used with the owner this morning (saying "you went over ratio") I decided to not go there and simply told him there were over 25 kids with 2 techers out there yesterday and that I need for him to get back to me by day's end to verify he spoke with all staff today about the issue, and how it will be resolved so that it never happens again, even for 5 minutes. He agreed and didn't try to give me bullshit excuses (his brother, a former co-owner would have). Unfortunately, I see this nonsense all the time at centers because I am a part timer who drops her kid off at all hours of the day (a nightmare for centers) -- centers really loosen up after the typical morning drop off hours. Once, the gate enclosing the outside play area was broken and the owners were being too cheap to hire a handyman to fix it. I'd had enough and told the former co-owner that I wasn't moving until he fixed it, he called my bluff, so I called the state and not only did they force him to fix it on the spot but they cited them. No retribution against Vietbabe -- the teachers like both of us and I can tell they like that someone is speaking up (who would WANT to be stuck, even for 10 minutes, watching 27 kids). With this center, I think it's worth it to stay (comparitively they are not bad overall) and MAKE them do their job. They'd probably love it if I left. :)

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-31-2006 12:32 PM

Skills
 
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Originally posted by viet_mom
Unfortunately, I see this nonsense all the time at centers because I am a part timer who drops her kid off at all hours of the day (a nightmare for centers) -- centers really loosen up after the typical morning drop off hours.
How do you fake the number of people though? If they have 3 on staff, what's that person doing? Do they rotate out to surf the internet? I can see slipping on fixing a fence, but it's not like they're setting up a mannequin at drop off time and then making do. Or is it?

TexLex 01-31-2006 01:47 PM

Skills
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
How do you fake the number of people though? If they have 3 on staff, what's that person doing? Do they rotate out to surf the internet? I can see slipping on fixing a fence, but it's not like they're setting up a mannequin at drop off time and then making do. Or is it?
The other two are inside eating the kids' lunches.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-31-2006 02:07 PM

Skills
 
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Originally posted by TexLex
The other two are inside eating the kids' lunches.
I thought your kid had beat them to them, though.

TexLex 01-31-2006 02:31 PM

Skills
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I thought your kid had beat them to them, though.
Ha.

The first kid is turning out to be very tall and, amazingly, quite thin. The second, well, the jury is still out on him.....since he's too fat to roll over, he's probably not thieving food at this point. The good news is that he went from 60% height at birth to 90% at 6mos, so at least his height is catching up with the fat, which is not even close to being on the chart.

viet_mom 01-31-2006 03:06 PM

Skills
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
How do you fake the number of people though? If they have 3 on staff, what's that person doing? Do they rotate out to surf the internet? I can see slipping on fixing a fence, but it's not like they're setting up a mannequin at drop off time and then making do. Or is it?
All the classes are well staffed but then the teachers leave the classroom to do "other things." Yesterday: two classes playing together outside, with 4 caregivers watching. One went inside to "get the lunches ready", leaving 3. Then, another "went inside for a minute, probably to use the bathroom" (reality: probably a 10 minute phone call), leaving 2 caregivers. Sometimes, a teacher has to go sit with a sick child in the front room until the parents come. What they need is one floater to pinch hit where needed.

(Or, they need to bring in Junior Tex Lex who will simply eat anyone who doesn't have a good ratio).

Secret_Agent_Man 01-31-2006 05:59 PM

Skills
 
Quote:

Originally posted by viet_mom
All the classes are well staffed but then the teachers leave the classroom to do "other things." Yesterday: two classes playing together outside, with 4 caregivers watching. One went inside to "get the lunches ready", leaving 3. Then, another "went inside for a minute, probably to use the bathroom" (reality: probably a 10 minute phone call), leaving 2 caregivers. Sometimes, a teacher has to go sit with a sick child in the front room until the parents come. What they need is one floater to pinch hit where needed.

(Or, they need to bring in Junior Tex Lex who will simply eat anyone who doesn't have a good ratio).
You can't really answer the question precisely without knowing the age of each child out there. All you can tell is that they were probably close to the required ratio of staff -- but with 2-3 kids too many.

Time to file the Complaint.

S_A_M


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