Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Wait a second. I don't know much about soccer, but you're telling me, in a sport where players act like they've been tripped, flopping all over the field, when there has been no contact at all, a player who has touched the ball with his hand will immediately stop play, admit to it and give the ball up instead of play on until there's been a whistle?

As for Hank's comment, I've never seen such a blatant hand ball. He almost fucking caught it. Usually, the ball accidentally touches your hand or arm. If that had been the case, the goalie probably would have played on. But it was so blatant this time, he must have been in shock. I do agree with you, though. I don't care what sport it is. I learned early on while playing organized sports (later to be painfully re-confirmed by Chuck fucking Knoblauch), that you play until you hear the whistle. There is no excuse to do otherwise.

TM

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Ha. That's pretty fucking funny.

TM

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

At least you are willing to say that. I don't know much about basketball.

An inadvertent touch, no. You would jump from it like a hot coal, but you wouldn't stop play. But a catch like that, yes. A player will put up their hand, will hold the ball, will tell the ref, . . . yes. I have seen all of these happen on the field in several different leagues in at least four* different countries and with players from all over the world. I never played in France or Ireland. They may see it differently. I doubt it.

His half-assed admission that it was inadvertent was telling. He knew the tape would be obvious.

Most players take the game fairly seriously. Taking a fall is part of the game. Handling the ball is not.

Exactly. Shock, surprise, expecting the whistle or the guy to own up to the handball.

And I think Burger has covered that well enough.


*I'm counting East Germany and West Germany each as a separate country since the wall was still there at the time. I am not counting San Diego as a separate country from Mexico since the wall there has never been very effective. Just to be clear.

Re: Chimney Sweep
 

Although I am, indeed, a bit tired of the continual whiff calling, it is actually the whole "Can somebody who is more experienced in these matters determine the exact form of whiff that this is?" device that I find to be played out. Plus, my post was not a whiff because, until I posted it, you were unaware that there were features that allowed you to increase the font size, italicize it, and change the color. I apparently was unaware of the ability to fatten the font.

Re: Chimney Sweep
 

Just so we are clear, and because I value your expertise in matters such as this, is there a new category of whiff that consists of pointing out an intentional ironic whiff? A meta-whiff, if you will. DYKWIMAITYD?

Re: Chimney Sweep
 

IKWYM. But my experience in all matters meta, ironic, and post-modern is actually quite limited. Adder?

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

"I've seen" is much different than, "it's common practice." Would everyone who watches soccer (and I'm actually asking, here) say that this is amounts to an unspoken rule that players respect? If you intentionally touch the ball with your hand, you have to own up to it?

Agreed. Saying they should replay the game after the fact is ridiculous.

But I've never heard of a player going up to a ref (other than in tennis and golf) and saying, "The other side is right, I admit it, overturn the call."

On a side note, the flopping and rolling around in agony is so fucking stupid that it makes me want to turn an entertaining game off. It is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't. There will be plenty of time for whining afterward. Play until you hear the whistle.

TM

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Sure. That's what Maradona did. "The hand of God."

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

i don't think you even can, can you? "thurgreed never fouled me! withdraw the foul!" they wouldn't.

but moreover, given the situation, the timing and the level of this game, I would say there was about 0% chance anyone would "admit it."

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Am I missing something? Wasn't that a hand ball that wasn't called?

TM

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Sorry, I'll correct the post.

[start sarcasm] Sure. That's what Maradona did. "The hand of God." [/end sarcasm]

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Waitaminnit -- you're saying there was a 0% chance that Les Bleues would just surrender?

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

I bet if you trapped a ball in baseball or football the ref would overturn an 'out' or 'catch' call if the offending player owned up to it. There are probably a bunch of examples of when that might happen. It just doesn't.

TM

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Sorry. Like I said, I don't know soccer. Although I had a vague memory of him being accused of a hand ball, I had to look up whether or not he admitted it and gave up the goal.

TM

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

He owned up to it 20 years later. And then proceeded to justify it on the ground he was too short to head it and besides, England were thieves for stealing the Falklands.

Nwtf
 

http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/amlawd...reedsmith.html

TM

Re: Nwtf
 

Big fucking deal. Some associates in the plaintiffs' world have to suck partner dick come bonus time. Not to get a bonus -- that IS the bonus.

Re: Nwtf
 

DLA Piper Marbury Rudnick Wolfe Gray Cary, et al. did the same thing a few months ago, but I don't think the ante was quite as high.

Re: Nwtf
 

You have to admire the double-talk from the firm spokeshead. "It's not because we need the money. We want the people who don't have equity to share in the risk -- they should act like real partners even though we only made them fake ones."

I may be paraphrasing.

Re: Nwtf
 

Uh, read it again. They have to pay money out of their pocket for the right to not get a bonus. You want to make a capital contribution for the right to continue being a partner? You need to come up with 15% of your base pay. That's a lot of fucking money.

TM

Re: Nwtf
 

Tee hee, giggle!

Re: Nwtf
 

Espeically when you are a non-equity partner, which is an oxymoron. Are you buying-in for equity -- or just taking a 15% pay cut?

Re: Nwtf
 

How is one a non-equity partner if one is required to contribute to the equity of the firm?

Admittedly, I have never understood how the non-equity parternship thing works, but this is particularly puzzling.

Re: Nwtf
 

(I giggled too. ! :))

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

And getting bigger. I sometimes swear I can see them growing. They're like two Chia Pets.

Re: Nwtf
 

Is the money returned upon departure? Is it like being a limited partner?

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

This post was going so well until you hit the part about the fuzzy, mold-growing, bulbous, clay things.

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

I would reconsider the analogy.

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

My stepdaughter is slightly prone to drama. She will fall down at the slightest provocation and pretend as though she's been mortally wounded.

I tell her she's acting like a European soccer player. She doesn't get it, but I laugh and laugh...

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

I think the post will be more appealing to men if you compare your ever-growing breasts to something other than Chia Pets.

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Same thing happens when I make marijuana jokes to my daughter! Blank expression from her, but oh, how I laugh.



Because I am really high at the time.

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

I told my daughter I was going to start treating her like I was a soccer player from New Mexico. She didn't get it either, but oh how I laughed.

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Hmmm. Do Chia Pets leak?

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

You win. You're "I'm going to pull my daughter to the ground by her pony tail" post was far edgier than my "I make pot jokes to my daughter" post. Flinty now likes you better and the girls thing you are a mysterious and dangerous "bad boy" type, which they of course love, even though they know better. As for me, I will be reviled as a pathetic aging stoner and bad parent, which basically puts me a half step ahead of Hank. At least that handsome Pirate dude has my back.

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

I wasn't really trying to appeal to men. It's hard to see how it could be appealing - given that my boobs border on the freakish. The Chia Pets are the image that came to mind. I've never seen one in real life, just on the Ronco commercial (or whatever it is), and they seem to inflate before your eyes!

Maybe like two balloons being blown up?

Re: Nwtf
 

The article say that afte rht econtribution they will be "fixed share" partners, which implies that they are buying-in equity and--quite possibly--taking a pay cut.

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Flinty already liked me better, but that's because I fed him odd cuts of meat.

Re: Nwtf
 

Presumably that's on top of whatever payments they've been making to buy in, right? They're only hitting the non-equity partners. They're not hitting the associates who are up but who haven't made it yet.

TM

Re: Nwtf
 

What's to understand? It's just another way of being able to charge more money by naming someone partner, without having to pay that person what a partner actually makes.

TM

Re: Nwtf
 

I wouldn't necessarily read that into the "fixed share" title. I took that as a euphemism for how they'll be paid -- i.e., they'll continue to make a fixed salary, even if the firm has a boom year.

These titles are going the way of airline terminology. "Non-stop" means the plane lands 3 times between takeoff and final destination, but you don't get off unless the TSA says you should.