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Tyrone Slothrop 12-14-2016 02:48 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 504586)
Even if Obamacare is not a total failure, can you understand why many feel deceived about what it is, versus how it was sold?
Politicians promise more than they can deliver. When you like the guy who's doing it, you're inclined to overlook it, just like so many Trump supporters don't seem to mind that he's walking back so many of his promises, or were willing to take them as puffery from the start. For example, the Trump voters in Kentucky who hope he's not really going to repeal the ACA.

When you don't like the politician involved, you go and find your news from sources that will confirm your views, and they don't give you the context, or the other things that were said that were reasonable, etc.

Specifically on Obamacare, there has been a very concerted effort by the right to paint the law as a failure. The media is less interested in telling success stories I'm sure there many people who feel deceived about it want to feel deceived, and others don't realize what the law has accomplished.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-14-2016 02:50 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504589)
"I can make a hat or a brooch or a pterodactyl!"

That's about all that shit commentary is worth. And that kind of talk, utterly unsupported and unsupportable, is what causes people like me - social liberals who'd otherwise be allies on many issues - to laugh at you hysterical Lefties.

By the way, Russians aren't monolithically "white." Russia is the world's largest country by land mass. They're every color you can imagine. And having that blood coursing through my veins, along with pictures of relatives from that part of the world with very tan and olive colored skin, I can say this with certainty: You are talking out of your ass.*

Were I a shmuck, I'd offer some identity politics here and suggest this thinly veiled hatred for Russians embraced by the Left is quite disturbing. That's what the clearly irony-challenged lot of idiots on the Left wallowing in those behaviors would do were Russians within their category of "Approved Victims."
________
* My great grandmother and my grandfather both looked like Afghans more than "white" Russians.
A person who wasn't trying to be a tendentious asshole would read the second of my two sentences as an appropriate qualifier of the first.

I don't know why Trump likes the Russians even as he's bellicose to everyone else in the world.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-14-2016 02:52 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504591)
I don't like a post-fact world any more than you, but among the basket of deplorable journalists in this cycle, there wasn't a whole lot of daylight between WaPo and Brietbart.
That's one the dumber things you have said on this board lately. Which is saying something.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-14-2016 02:56 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504602)
when Ty says something like "Trump likes Russians because they are white, and dislikes Asians because they are not"
Go find someone who can explain to you what I meant when I referred to correlation and causation.

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It's also demeaning to categorize people as "Russians"
What if you're talking about the country of Russia? Is it OK to refer to its people as Russians, or is that not SebbyPC-compliant?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 12-14-2016 03:32 PM
Re: Sebby is one of the whitest people I know
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504589)
"I can make a hat or a brooch or a pterodactyl!"

That's about all that shit commentary is worth. And that kind of talk, utterly unsupported and unsupportable, is what causes people like me - social liberals who'd otherwise be allies on many issues - to laugh at you hysterical Lefties.

By the way, Russians aren't monolithically "white." Russia is the world's largest country by land mass. They're every color you can imagine. And having that blood coursing through my veins, along with pictures of relatives from that part of the world with very tan and olive colored skin, I can say this with certainty: You are talking out of your ass.*

Were I a shmuck, I'd offer some identity politics here and suggest this thinly veiled hatred for Russians embraced by the Left is quite disturbing. That's what the clearly irony-challenged lot of idiots on the Left wallowing in those behaviors would do were Russians within their category of "Approved Victims."
________
* My great grandmother and my grandfather both looked like Afghans more than "white" Russians.

Wait. You're not a whiter shade of pale?

Tyrone Slothrop 12-14-2016 03:37 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzqUa5aVEAEcqb9.jpg

sebastian_dangerfield 12-14-2016 04:10 PM
Re: Sebby is one of the whitest people I know
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504611)
Wait. You're not a whiter shade of pale?
Depends how badly I've been amusing myself. Sometimes, yes, I've been shockingly white... and sweating for no good reason.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-14-2016 04:12 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 504608)

I don't know why Trump likes the Russians even as he's bellicose to everyone else in the world.
He thinks they love their children too.

Pretty Little Flower 12-14-2016 05:49 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504614)
He thinks they love their children too.
Calm down. Fuck you. You're so knee deep in confirmation bias, you wouldn't recognize your own echo chamber if somebody repeated everything you said back to you multiple times in steadily decreasing decibel levels. You're like 10,000 fake news story wrapped in one. Calm down. Funkadelic is better than you. Can You Get To That? I didn't think so. The Daily Dose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rrOdcnFbAY

Tyrone Slothrop 12-14-2016 05:55 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
What I said re Tillerson.

ThurgreedMarshall 12-14-2016 05:55 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504603)
Take almost any story about there about Russians and swap in "Muslims." I know, I know -- when the media says Russians, it means Putin and the Kremlin, not the people. I agree.
Uh, yeah. This swallows everything else in your post. And every article I've seen that can be characterized as negative about "Russians" is based on something negative that the Russian state has done or sponsored.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504603)
But just imagine if people threw around "Muslims" in the same way.
I can imagine that. I see this shit every single day. And they're not even talking about a specific government when it happens. If they were, it would actually be kind of refreshing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504603)
Actually, we don't have to imagine it. People have done that. Many politicians and pundits have loosely accused "Muslims" generally of certain things, without noting it's but a tiny fraction of crazy Muslims who deserve criticism. And they've been slammed for it, unfairly.
Looks like I jumped the gun. You already got there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504603)
I notice no similar outrage when people call out "Russians" instead of specifically limiting criticism to Putin and the Kremlin.
This is in your head. I don't think anyone is talking in generalities about Russian people doing evil shit.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 12-14-2016 05:56 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504606)
Yet two posts ago you agreed with him? Hmmmm....
I know there's something wrong with you.

TM

sebastian_dangerfield 12-14-2016 06:34 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 504615)
Calm down. Fuck you. You're so knee deep in confirmation bias, you wouldn't recognize your own echo chamber if somebody repeated everything you said back to you multiple times in steadily decreasing decibel levels. You're like 10,000 fake news story wrapped in one. Calm down. Funkadelic is better than you. Can You Get To That? I didn't think so. The Daily Dose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rrOdcnFbAY
There was a joke in that last post about this guy who used to sing for the Police...

Pretty Little Flower 12-14-2016 07:35 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504624)
There was a joke in that last post about this guy who used to sing for the Police...
Yeah, I got that. I chose not to acknowledge it. I would rather listen to Elvis Costello sing a 40-day extended version of Allison (Alison? (Who the fuck cares? (Not Bob cares because he loves that stupid fucking song and he has a soft spot for mental discipline. (Fine, then you Google that shit, NotBob.)))) than go to a Sting concert. Could he possibly be the most pretentious blowhard in pop music? That seems like an impossibly high bar, but he may have it.

Hank Chinaski 12-14-2016 08:26 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 504625)
Yeah, I got that. I chose not to acknowledge it. I would rather listen to Elvis Costello sing a 40-day extended version of Allison (Alison? (Who the fuck cares? (Not Bob cares because he loves that stupid fucking song and he has a soft spot for mental discipline. (Fine, then you Google that shit, NotBob.)))) than go to a Sting concert. Could he possibly be the most pretentious blowhard in pop music? That seems like an impossibly high bar, but he may have it.
dissent. Guess what? The social media thingey explosion means that means that people who post about a thing are "in" that thing. So your funk posts mean that you are "in pop music." Now, who is the "most pretentious blowhard in pop music?"

Pretty Little Flower 12-14-2016 09:02 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504626)
dissent. Guess what? The social media thingey explosion means that means that people who post about a thing are "in" that thing. So your funk posts mean that you are "in pop music." Now, who is the "most pretentious blowhard in pop music?"
Is it Sting? I knew it! That guy is too much.

Hank Chinaski 12-14-2016 09:37 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Hi

Not Bob 12-15-2016 11:35 AM
My aim is true.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504628)
Hi
Hi!

By the way, Flower, I did Google - as you predicted - and confirmed that it is Alison with one L. And trashing that song? Sometimes I wish that I could stop you from talking when I hear the silly things that you say.*

Speaking of the re line, I need to resume my discussion on the Fashion Board of albums that influenced me. I promised "The River" (TL;DR version: this album led Not Bob into a love for songs about the despair of the post-industrial Northeast starring girls named Mary, Sandy, or Wendy). Maybe should also discuss Liz Phair's "Exile in Guyville," Joni Mitchell's "Hits/Misses," or Jimmy Buffett's "You Had to Be There."

Anyway, carry on.

A great line that is too long for the re line. Also, it would make a great Politics Board motto, no?

Tyrone Slothrop 12-15-2016 02:24 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Like Sebby said.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 12-15-2016 02:49 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504626)
dissent. Guess what? The social media thingey explosion means that means that people who post about a thing are "in" that thing. So your funk posts mean that you are "in pop music." Now, who is the "most pretentious blowhard in pop music?"
Hey, flower. We're part of it.

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/upload...l-10232016.jpg

sebastian_dangerfield 12-16-2016 10:22 AM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 504630)
But over time, say around 2090, the technologies that are eliminating jobs will have created new kinds of jobs that outweigh those lost! It's Econ 101. The past predicts the future (nevermind you and your proof it doesn't, Nassim Taleb... you shut up and stop challenging classical economic theory, you hear me?), and in the past, this is how it's always worked!

Oh, what becomes of those unfortunately alive at the present? We will educate and train them to do other things. Because it's only rote, blue collar work that's being replaced by robots. Nothing in finance, law, sales, medicine, or engineering is exposed to risk of automation!

Or maybe we'll just blame immigrants, and slap prohibitive taxes on robot manufacturers. Yes. Let's do that, and keep 'urrr jobs!

sebastian_dangerfield 12-16-2016 10:30 AM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 504625)
Yeah, I got that. I chose not to acknowledge it. I would rather listen to Elvis Costello sing a 40-day extended version of Allison (Alison? (Who the fuck cares? (Not Bob cares because he loves that stupid fucking song and he has a soft spot for mental discipline. (Fine, then you Google that shit, NotBob.)))) than go to a Sting concert. Could he possibly be the most pretentious blowhard in pop music? That seems like an impossibly high bar, but he may have it.
While I am generally persuaded, I invite you to consider Robbie Robertson's solo work. And were it not for a self-deprecating streak, including dandieness so overt it's clearly ironic, Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music might take the title.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-16-2016 10:32 AM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 504616)
Trump just likes him because his hair challenges Trump's for "originality."

Pretty Little Flower 12-16-2016 11:50 AM
Re: My aim is true.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 504629)
Hi!

By the way, Flower, I did Google - as you predicted - and confirmed that it is Alison with one L. And trashing that song? Sometimes I wish that I could stop you from talking when I hear the silly things that you say.*

Speaking of the re line, I need to resume my discussion on the Fashion Board of albums that influenced me. I promised "The River" (TL;DR version: this album led Not Bob into a love for songs about the despair of the post-industrial Northeast starring girls named Mary, Sandy, or Wendy). Maybe should also discuss Liz Phair's "Exile in Guyville," Joni Mitchell's "Hits/Misses," or Jimmy Buffett's "You Had to Be There."

Anyway, carry on.

A great line that is too long for the re line. Also, it would make a great Politics Board motto, no?
Jimmy Buffet. Jimmy. Fucking. Buffet. Sometimes I wonder why I even try. But then I remember that the Funk is bigger than all of this. In that vein, I present you perhaps the most iconic of funk anthems. Parliament with "P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)." P-Funk started every show I saw (which was a lot) with an extended version of this loose, sprawling love letter to funk. The Daily Dose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOiY2WcU9HQ

Actually, now that I think about it, I think they sometimes opened with "Give Up the Funk (Tear The Roof Off The Sucker)," another iconic funk anthem. So here's that one too. A Double Daily Dose for your Friday ya yas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWH3OWfT2Y

LessinSF 12-16-2016 01:57 PM
Re: My aim is true.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 504640)
Jimmy Buffet. Jimmy. Fucking. Buffet. Sometimes I wonder why I even try. But then I remember that the Funk is bigger than all of this. In that vein, I present you perhaps the most iconic of funk anthems. Parliament with "P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)." P-Funk started every show I saw (which was a lot) with an extended version of this loose, sprawling love letter to funk. The Daily Dose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOiY2WcU9HQ

Actually, now that I think about it, I think they sometimes opened with "Give Up the Funk (Tear The Roof Off The Sucker)," another iconic funk anthem. So here's that one too. A Double Daily Dose for your Friday ya yas!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWH3OWfT2Y
They never play it (Maggot Brain) live (once in 2015), maybe because Eddie Hazel is dead, but others (Pearl Jam, Gov't Mule) do, and I love this version by Lili Haydn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APP6-4i_pR4

Not Bob 12-16-2016 02:39 PM
Good times and riches, and son of a bitches, I've seen more than I can recall.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 504640)
Jimmy Buffet. Jimmy. Fucking. Buffet. Sometimes I wonder why I even try.
I hear you, Flower. I can only say that (1) I was 13 or 14; (2) Buffett was and is extremely popular in Podunkville, and (3) the whole point of my apparently now-abandoned project is to discuss the impact of various albums on the singular and idiosyncratic life of the poster you all know and love* as Not Bob.

*Or at least Not Hate.

LessinSF 12-16-2016 06:05 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504628)
Hi
Are you out on bail? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8c3865d223f5

Hank Chinaski 12-16-2016 07:14 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 504645)
Threatening people with exposure for watching porn? Lowest of the low.

Icky Thump 12-16-2016 07:26 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504646)
Threatening people with exposure for watching porn? Lowest of the low.
What were the movies that were allegedly downloaded? Asking for a friend.

Hank Chinaski 12-16-2016 09:36 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 504647)
What were the movies that were allegedly downloaded? Asking for a friend.
"Naked Licensing" and one called "Fair Use." But the main one was "Double- Patented." Ha ha, get it?

Icky Thump 12-16-2016 10:06 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504648)
"Naked Licensing" and one called "Fair Use." But the main one was "Double- Patented." Ha ha, get it?
Whew. My friend said.

Hank Chinaski 12-16-2016 11:06 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 504649)
Whew. My friend said.
oh, and "Wilful Infringement" and a scat work called "Trebled Damages."

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 12-19-2016 12:23 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Guess he couldn't find an archduke....

Hank Chinaski 12-19-2016 12:35 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504675)
Guess he couldn't find an archduke....
Has anyone seen a translation of the guy's rant?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 12-19-2016 01:22 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504676)
Has anyone seen a translation of the guy's rant?
The most useful people are offline, because Turkey has barred tweeting or broadcasting about the event.

I've seen some things that said he was yelling Remember Syria, Remember Aleppo and others who said he was reciting some al-Nusrah verses.

There is a Russia/Turkey/Iran summit tomorrow.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-19-2016 02:08 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by greedy,greedy,greedy (Post 504675)
guess he couldn't find an archduke....
potm

Hank Chinaski 12-19-2016 02:25 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504679)
potm
I can accept this, as long as you agree POTY is when I told you Pa was in play and if Hil lost one more state Trump is prez.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 12-19-2016 02:28 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504679)
potm
Disagree. Whoever posted that is a sick fuck.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-19-2016 02:59 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504680)
I can accept this, as long as you agree POTY is when I told you Pa was in play and if Hil lost one more state Trump is prez.
Proving my predictions wrong and $10 will barely get you a Johnny Black and rocks.

sebastian_dangerfield 12-19-2016 03:01 PM
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504677)
The most useful people are offline, because Turkey has barred tweeting or broadcasting about the event.

I've seen some things that said he was yelling Remember Syria, Remember Aleppo and others who said he was reciting some al-Nusrah verses.

There is a Russia/Turkey/Iran summit tomorrow.
"Erdogan crush Twitter!"

His war with Twitter is a masterpiece of truly macabre humor. Not since Ted Stevens' "the internet is a series of tubes" comment has a person of such power displayed such technological ignorance.


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