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sebastian_dangerfield 08-21-2019 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 524549)
No one is so impressed by the Dulles Tech Corridor that they forget Silicon Valley.

Of course not. That'd be absurd. But DC does have growth that MD, NJ, and Eastern PA most decidedly Do Not. DC and NY prop up the MidAtlantic. What goes on between them? Meds, Eds, a bit of Pharma. No serious growth industry wants to do anything in Baltimore or Philly. They're unfriendly to business.

SF is the "city." I guess one can consider the Valley an extension of it. But yes, I remain married to the idea of cities as dense collections of people and large buildings. But when I was talking about a county presenting itself as a city, incorrectly IMO, I was referring to LA. Downtown is a city. But anywhere in which I can drive for over and hour and a half in one direction without leaving is not really a city. Call me old fashioned.

Hank Chinaski 08-21-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 524545)
I don't get this.

If I could live anywhere, DC would be about 590th on my list, maybe lower.

The list would go something like this:

1 Boston area (obv.)
2 Other Massachusetts
3 Montreal
4 Shanghai
5 London
6 Toronto
7 Copenhagen
8 Athens
9 Istanbul
10 Hong Kong
....

50 Beirut
51 Lisbon

.....

385 Ho Chi Minh City
395 Jersey City
396 Tijuana
.....

590 DC
591 Florida

When I was young and single DC was about it. The thing is they flush out a million people with each election and bring in new ones, so there are all these newbers looking towards their futures- and partying like nuts- all these young people w/o any roots- it was heady.


I had one Congressional aide in my crew. Lots of boring gov functionaries of course, but we weren't really tied to the gov. And you have got to go to at least one CIA party in your life.

You know how work parties are always "I ain't talking about work..." They 4 drinks in you're bitching that you can't seem to get that GS-13? Well CIA parties start the same way, except when it gets time to talk about work, they can't, so they turn on TV.

But I wouldn't even think of living there with a family- way too crowded.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-21-2019 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 524547)
Dissent: The just-graduated from college girls working on the Hill. DC's female to male ratio is still insanely favorable to men.

And most of the dudes there dress like funeral home attendants. You can spot the foreigners in a heartbeat because they're the only men who don't look like they go exclusively to Brooks Brothers. If you're a half decent looking cat, it's a great town.

If your goal is young women who don't have high standards, maybe try Thailand?

Hank Chinaski 08-21-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 524552)
If your goal is young women who don't have high standards, maybe try Thailand?

Umm, Adder, better or worse than Sbby’s China comments?

sebastian_dangerfield 08-21-2019 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 524552)
If your goal is young women who don't have high standards, maybe try Thailand?

I’d be seeking high standards I could diminish.

Replaced_Texan 08-21-2019 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 524526)

That was a takeaway I had after reading Diangelo. White people don't understand what it's like to live as a black person because they never listen and black people are exhausted. But a black person writing a book just coldly outlining his or her everyday experience and where racism occurs in the most mundane of circumstances struck me as a really good device. This was meant constructively.

I've seen countless accounts like these on various platforms. They don't seem to have much of an impact outside of confirming what most of the people who read them already knew or suspected.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-21-2019 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 524550)
SF is the "city." I guess one can consider the Valley an extension of it. But yes, I remain married to the idea of cities as dense collections of people and large buildings. But when I was talking about a county presenting itself as a city, incorrectly IMO, I was referring to LA. Downtown is a city. But anywhere in which I can drive for over and hour and a half in one direction without leaving is not really a city. Call me old fashioned.

I like density as much as the next guy, probably more, but you need to expand your horizons. LA is one of the great cities of the world.

Icky Thump 08-21-2019 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 524545)
I don't get this.

If I could live anywhere, DC would be about 590th on my list, maybe lower.

The list would go something like this:

1 Boston area (obv.)
2 Other Massachusetts
3 Montreal
4 Shanghai
5 London
6 Toronto
7 Copenhagen
8 Athens
9 Istanbul
10 Hong Kong
....

50 Beirut
51 Lisbon

.....

385 Ho Chi Minh City
395 Jersey City
396 Tijuana
.....

590 DC
591 Florida

Slip Rome, Singapore and Tokyo in top 10.

Icky Thump 08-21-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 524552)
If your goal is young women who don't have high standards, maybe try Thailand?

Not high standards but may get a wee surprise. I’d live in BKK before I lived in DC NJ or FL.

Icky Thump 08-21-2019 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 524556)
I like density as much as the next guy, probably more, but you need to expand your horizons. LA is one of the great cities of the world.

My first time in LA I got laid in like 60 seconds after walking into the Rainbow.

Hank Chinaski 08-21-2019 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 524559)
My first time in LA I got laid in like 60 seconds after walking into the Rainbow.

If we count masturbation, I was close to that after getting to my hotel room first time there! Unless you're on a reunion tour, reduce your expectations for next time.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-22-2019 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 524556)
I like density as much as the next guy, probably more, but you need to expand your horizons. LA is one of the great cities of the world.

Please do not think I dislike LA. Quite to the contrary. (I'm not on Randy Newman's page, but I dig the town, and the eye candy on endless display.) My sole issue was with it being called a city when it really feels more like a collection of little cities loosely linked together.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-22-2019 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 524555)
I've seen countless accounts like these on various platforms. They don't seem to have much of an impact outside of confirming what most of the people who read them already knew or suspected.

There's a show called Dear White People out now. I have not seen it. But the title is great. I think a book or, better, a show, in which black people complain, perhaps in a sarcastic, ironic, but also earnest way (humor + earnestness conveys a bit more than earnestness alone) how annoying it can be to be ignored, or have dumb shit said to you ("You're here to fix the copier?") could get a much needed message across.

White people talk about the extremes of racism. The subtle little forms of it Diangelo mentions in the book are overlooked. Even talking about her book with white people, the conversation quickly shifts to justice reform, Jim Crow, etc. Those things need to be discussed, of course, but those are so extreme, most white people can distance themselves from them pretty quickly (often absurdly... "I never aimed a hose at black protestors as did Bull Connor!").

I really do not think many white people appreciate the irritating things they do to minorities. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it won't resonate. But I haven't really seen it attempted. I've never seen a show that either acts out or describes the "white women's tears" phenomenon outlined by Diangelo.

It could be done straight, or it could be delivered ironically. Or both. It just has to be done right, on a platform where it goes viral among whites.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-22-2019 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 524559)
My first time in LA I got laid in like 60 seconds after walking into the Rainbow.

Panama City, Panama. I've friends down there. You basically walk into a bar, smile, and it's on.

I've not visited despite a standing invite. I tend to avoid places where the power goes out twice a day.

Replaced_Texan 08-22-2019 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 524562)
There's a show called Dear White People out now. I have not seen it. But the title is great. I think a book or, better, a show, in which black people complain, perhaps in a sarcastic, ironic, but also earnest way (humor + earnestness conveys a bit more than earnestness alone) how annoying it can be to be ignored, or have dumb shit said to you ("You're here to fix the copier?") could get a much needed message across.

White people talk about the extremes of racism. The subtle little forms of it Diangelo mentions in the book are overlooked. Even talking about her book with white people, the conversation quickly shifts to justice reform, Jim Crow, etc. Those things need to be discussed, of course, but those are so extreme, most white people can distance themselves from them pretty quickly (often absurdly... "I never aimed a hose at black protestors as did Bull Connor!").

I really do not think many white people appreciate the irritating things they do to minorities. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it won't resonate. But I haven't really seen it attempted. I've never seen a show that either acts out or describes the "white women's tears" phenomenon outlined by Diangelo.

It could be done straight, or it could be delivered ironically. Or both. It just has to be done right, on a platform where it goes viral among whites.

This is why representation matters. Having diverse folks on tv and movies that are aimed at the population as a whole gives an opportunity to highlight some of these issues in a context that makes sense rather than having it rammed down their throats. And not just on screen but in the writers rooms where people who ACTUALLY experience life as a person of color can point out that writing the black main character the same way they would the white main character doesn't really do anything.

I think Brooklyn 99 is REALLY good at it. Two of the seven main cast members are white men and one is a white woman. Two black men, one of whom is gay. Two Hispanic women, one of whom is bisexual. The show's main aim is to be funny as hell (which I think it succeeds at wildly), but having a diverse cast that are written with their diversity in mind allows the show to subtly and not so subtly drive some of these points home. Superstore also gets a lot of diversity kudos from me.

There's plenty of content out there that highlights minority experience. It just doesn't get the publicity or following that "mainstream" (i.e. white focused) content gets. If you want to see the world through the lens of other people, look for their content. A few years ago I started reading verysmartbrothas, mainly because someone linked me to a very accurate post Damon Young wrote about Houston. I loved the writing and started following the blog, and then I shut up and listened and learned a lot about an experience I don't have.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-22-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 524564)
A few years ago I started reading verysmartbrothas, mainly because someone linked me to a very accurate post Damon Young wrote about Houston.

The stuff about Houston being too big is right up Sebby's alley.

Hank Chinaski 08-22-2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 524565)
The stuff about Houston being too big is right up Sebby's alley.

Houston is stupid big, and poorly signed. As a city it is like LA- not really one.

Replaced_Texan 08-22-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 524566)
Houston is stupid big, and poorly signed. As a city it is like LA- not really one.

Eons ago, Houston made the decision to incorporate the crap out of the outlying areas, so it's not a collection of small cities or towns but under a single municipality. The suburbs, early on, got absorbed into the tax base. Places like the Woodlands, Sugar Land, and Katy are anomalies rather than the norm.

About 18 months ago, some east coast writers tried and failed to describe LA in the New York Times. There was much derision and scorn, but my favorite response article in the LA Times was a missive on Houston, because we are similar.

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If I had to put my finger on what unites Houston and Los Angeles, it is a certain elusiveness as urban object. Both cities are opaque and hard to read. What is Houston? Where does it begin and end? Does it have a center? Does it need one? It’s tough to say, even when you’re there — even when you’re looking directly at it.

The same has been said of Los Angeles since its earliest days. Something Carey McWilliams noted about L.A. in 1946 — that it is a place fundamentally ad hoc in spirit, “a gigantic improvisation” — is perhaps even more true of Houston. Before you can pin either city down, you notice that it’s wriggled out of your grasp.

People who are accustomed to making quick sense of the world, to ordering it into neat and sharply defined categories, tend to be flummoxed by both places. And reporters at the New York Times are certainly used to making quick sense of the world. If there’s one reason the paper keeps getting Los Angeles so spectacularly wrong, I think that’s it. Smart, accomplished people don’t like being made to feel out of their depth. Los Angeles makes out-of-town reporters feel out of their depth from their first day here.

Their reaction to that feeling, paradoxically enough, is very often to attempt to write that feeling away — to conquer that sense of dislocation by producing a story that sets out to explain Los Angeles in its entirety. Because it’s a challenge, maybe, or because they simply can’t be convinced, despite all the evidence right in front of them, that Los Angeles, as cities go, is an especially tough nut to crack.
***
That tendency — to attempt the moon shot, the overarching analysis, too soon — is equal parts hubris and panic. It usually goes about as well as it went this time around for Arango, not incidentally a brand-new arrival in the New York Times bureau here, and Nagourney.

Among the most dedicated scholars of Houston’s urban form in recent years has been Lars Lerup, former dean of the Rice University School of Architecture. In his new book of essays, “The Continuous City,” he argues that the first step in understanding Houston and cities like it is to begin with a certain humility about the nature and scale of the task.

This kind of city has grown so large — in economic and environmental as well as physical reach — that it begins to stretch beyond our field of vision. The best way to grasp it, according to Lerup, is to understand that it is not Manhattan, Boston, San Francisco or Chicago — to recognize it instead as “a vast field with no distinct borders.”

“The old city was a discrete object sitting on a Tuscan hill surrounded by a collectively constructed wall; the new city is everywhere,” he writes. “Only when we accept that we can only attain a partial understanding can work begin.”

Lerup stresses that huge, spread-out cities like Houston — which he also calls “distributed cities,” places where “the spiky downtown is just a blip in the flatness” — have long been tough to read, in part because they are “always in the throes of change.” But the relationship between urbanization and climate change has added a new layer of complexity, because big metro regions and their pollution are exacerbating the ecological crisis. The city now “owns everything” and must answer for everything, “even the raging hurricane bearing down on its coast.” The vast city has grown vaster still.

Hank Chinaski 08-22-2019 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 524567)
Eons ago, Houston made the decision to incorporate the crap out of the outlying areas, so it's not a collection of small cities or towns but under a single municipality. The suburbs, early on, got absorbed into the tax base. Places like the Woodlands, Sugar Land, and Katy are anomalies rather than the norm.

About 18 months ago, some east coast writers tried and failed to describe LA in the New York Times. There was much derision and scorn, but my favorite response article in the LA Times was a missive on Houston, because we are similar.

I once spent a month in "downtown" LA for depositions. It was horrible. Empty after dark. But I love parts of the area- Santa Monica in particular. AM Homes, one of favorite authors, has a book of essays about her experiences getting to know LA. Quite good. Houston absorbed a ton of Michiganders in the late 70s and early 80s. I expect I would feel at home there once I figured out HOW TO GET TO THE AIRPORT ON EXPRESSWAYS WITH NO SIGNS!!!! Also, corollary, I've been driving in Dallas lately, and the fact that every other one of the people are armed makes driving that much more stressful.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-22-2019 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 524567)
"This kind of city has grown so large — in economic and environmental as well as physical reach — that it begins to stretch beyond our field of vision. The best way to grasp it, according to Lerup, is to understand that it is not Manhattan, Boston, San Francisco or Chicago — to recognize it instead as 'a vast field with no distinct borders.'”

'The old city was a discrete object sitting on a Tuscan hill surrounded by a collectively constructed wall; the new city is everywhere,' he writes. 'Only when we accept that we can only attain a partial understanding can work begin.'”

The archetype that Sebby and Hank have in their heads is a little more than a century old. Before Chicago and New York started building skyscrapers in the 1880s, larger cities spread out instead of growing up, and if you didn't have a car then it took much longer to get around them.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-22-2019 07:29 PM

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"Trump's low approval provides a unique challenge for Democrats"

Hank Chinaski 08-22-2019 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 524569)
The archetype that Sebby and Hank have in their heads is a little more than a century old. Before Chicago and New York started building skyscrapers in the 1880s, larger cities spread out instead of growing up, and if you didn't have a car then it took much longer to get around them.

1 I am an award winning story teller and have published more short fiction than the rest of you combined. The only one close is Sebby.

2 I work in IP and regularly litigate punctuation specific matters.

The “word in my head” is thus the correct one. The only person with chops to question is sebby.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-22-2019 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 524571)
1 I am an award winning story teller and have published more short fiction than the rest of you combined. The only one close is Sebby.

2 I work in IP and regularly litigate punctuation specific matters.

The “word in my head” is thus the correct one. The only person with chops to question is sebby.

I think you mean punctuation-specific matters.

Hank Chinaski 08-22-2019 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 524572)
I think you mean punctuation-specific matters.

Since you are referring to a past choice I made I believe you should have used the word “ meant” instead of “mean,” which is present tense.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-23-2019 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 524573)
Since you are referring to a past choice I made I believe you should have used the word “ meant” instead of “mean,” which is present tense.

That thought occurred, but it seemed to correct to use the present tense since I expected that your intention, or at least hope, to use proper punctuation continues to the present, given that you are bragging about it as an area of particular expertise. But I don't mean to crowd you on your corner.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-23-2019 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 524571)
1 I am an award winning story teller...

Re that story telling thing, how does one join? Can a person just show up and do stand up?

And, most importantly, can one work blue?

sebastian_dangerfield 08-23-2019 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 524574)
That thought occurred, but it seemed to correct to use the present tense since I expected that your intention, or at least hope, to use proper punctuation continues to the present, given that you are bragging about it as an area of particular expertise. But I don't mean to crowd you on your corner.

Either is fine. But I think you should nevertheless argue about this for several dozen posts, in the interest of providing everyone with the merits of both positions so they can make informed decisions regarding use of the terms in the future.

Hank Chinaski 08-23-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 524575)
Re that story telling thing, how does one join? Can a person just show up and do stand up?

And, most importantly, can one work blue?

They got it in Philly. I’ll post a link. You go into a bar. Couple hundred people. A bunch put their names in a bag- they draw 10. Each gets 6 minutes to tell a (sort of) true story on a themed. There are judges. They may get more than 10 names so no guarantee you’ll be called. I don’t do well in Philly. Not sure of the vibe there. You can swear! I bet you’d be hooked quick.

https://themoth.org/events/results?e...ts=&eventDate=

Tyrone Slothrop 08-23-2019 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 524577)
They got it in Philly. I’ll post a link. You go into a bar. Couple hundred people. A bunch put their names in a bag- they draw 10. Each gets 6 minutes to tell a (sort of) true story on a themed. There are judges. They may get more than 10 names so no guarantee you’ll be called. I don’t do well in Philly. Not sure of the vibe there. You can swear! I bet you’d be hooked quick.

https://themoth.org/events/results?e...ts=&eventDate=

In a somewhat similar vein, Pecha Kucha is really cool, and I recommend going if you can find one near you.

Hank Chinaski 08-23-2019 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 524574)
That thought occurred, but it seemed to correct to use the present tense since I expected that your intention, or at least hope, to use proper punctuation continues to the present, given that you are bragging about it as an area of particular expertise. But I don't mean to crowd you on your corner.

Post Hoc

Hank Chinaski 08-23-2019 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 524576)
Either is fine. But I think you should nevertheless argue about this for several dozen posts, in the interest of providing everyone with the merits of both positions so they can make informed decisions regarding use of the terms in the future.

I used to be a quasi-judicial officer serving at the pleasure of the Secretary of Commerce. Our charge was to review applications for relief from the public and focus the included wording. A co-worker issued an Official Action telling the applicant he had “mispelled” a word. That is he misspelled misspelled. He also had a bucket of excuses, but we all knew he was also suboptimal.

Memory is a funny thing, but I believe his name might have been Tyrone. Fired before he made an impression I’m afraid.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-23-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 524580)
I used to be a quasi-judicial officer serving at the pleasure of the Secretary of Commerce. Our charge was to review applications for relief from the public and focus the included wording. A co-worker issued an Official Action telling the applicant he had “mispelled” a word. That is he misspelled misspelled. He also had a bucket of excuses, but we all knew he was also suboptimal.

Memory is a funny thing, but I believe his name might have been Tyrone. Fired before he made an impression I’m afraid.

I used to pleasure the Secretary of Commerce. A co-worker once mixed up KY and Ben Gay in the medicine cabinet. We had a bucket of excuses, but they knew we were suboptimal.

I claimed it smarted for me as much for the Secretary, to no avail. Both the co-worker and I are banned from Hyatts for life, I'm afraid.

Hank Chinaski 08-23-2019 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 524581)
I used to pleasure the Secretary of Commerce. A co-worker once mixed up KY and Ben Gay in the medicine cabinet. We had a bucket of excuses, but they knew we were suboptimal.

I claimed it smarted for me as much for the Secretary, to no avail. Both the co-worker and I are banned from Hyatts for life, I'm afraid.

My Sec of C was Malcolm Baldridge; wouldn’t have been caught dead in a Hyatt.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-23-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 524582)
My Sec of C was Malcolm Baldridge; wouldn’t have been caught dead in a Hyatt.

That's like pleasuring Wilbur Ross.

(If Baldridge were alive still today.)

Hank Chinaski 08-23-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 524583)
That's like pleasuring Wilbur Ross.

(If Baldridge were alive still today.)

I served "at" his pleasure, not for it. I had buck teeth back then{sad face}

Tyrone Slothrop 08-24-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 524579)
Post Hoc

No need to capitalize the "h", Punctuation Dude.

Hank Chinaski 08-25-2019 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 524585)
No need to capitalize the "h", Punctuation Dude.

Sad.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-25-2019 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 524557)
Slip Rome, Singapore and Tokyo in top 10.

Three cities I don't know well, but suspect they'd be up there near the top if I did.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-25-2019 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 524567)
Eons ago, Houston made the decision to incorporate the crap out of the outlying areas, so it's not a collection of small cities or towns but under a single municipality. The suburbs, early on, got absorbed into the tax base. Places like the Woodlands, Sugar Land, and Katy are anomalies rather than the norm.

About 18 months ago, some east coast writers tried and failed to describe LA in the New York Times. There was much derision and scorn, but my favorite response article in the LA Times was a missive on Houston, because we are similar.

I took two of my kids out to LA to look at schools, and we poked around the city and the colleges and some of the usual places. But, I took them to a little neighborhood place that I'd been told about in a nondescript mostly Central American emigre suburb and LA will forever mean incredible food to them.

Most cities are sprawling and have natives in some parts who have never been to others but if you find your place you're happy. My NYC focuses around Inwood, and I talk to lots of native NYers who have only a vague idea of where it is.

Hank Chinaski 08-25-2019 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 524588)
I took two of my kids out to LA to look at schools, and we poked around the city and the colleges and some of the usual places. But, I took them to a little neighborhood place that I'd been told about in a nondescript mostly Central American emigre suburb and LA will forever mean incredible food to them.

Most cities are sprawling and have natives in some parts who have never been to others but if you find your place you're happy. My NYC focuses around Inwood, and I talk to lots of native NYers who have only a vague idea of where it is.

If you’re telling the truth figure this out for me- I was trying run the entire outer ring of the island- (not an once- I’m not Penske). The West Side is EZ, from the South tip all the way up until Inwood Hill Park where you get kicked onto Streets for the turn East. It makes no sense- it’s a PARK. Are there no bikes allowed? I’m running- can’t I get in there?


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