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Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-25-2010 09:00 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Sparklehorse (Post 424804)

In short, I guess you and a bunch of other viewers got sold a bill of goods thinking the writers might give you a "science" resolution.

Yes, that. Whatever the percentage, a substantial part of the first five seasons involved revelation of odd scientific phenomena on the island: polar bears, magnetism, smoke monsters, living dead people, buttons/hatches. All of that was misdirection, and explained as "magic" or "god's way on earth."

Maybe that's why I don't go to church.

LessinSF 05-25-2010 09:01 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Sparklehorse (Post 424804)
I can't say I gave this a lot of thought at the time (particularly since I didn't start watching really until S-3) but questions like Locke's in a wheelchair could never really be answered by anything besides "Magic!!"

Taking your idea of the island's mysteries as "science" versus all the character arcs as "faith" this posting supposedly from a Bad Robot writer indicates that the plan for the show was always for faith to trump science.



In short, I guess you and a bunch of other viewers got sold a bill of goods thinking the writers might give you a "science" resolution.

ETA that I guess Icky Thump was right in the sense that the post above indicates that the ending was conceived by JJ Abrams, so blame him.

MY DVR may or may not have caught it, but it had become obvious a la the X-files that it had not been storyboarded in advance, they were winging it, making up shit on the fly, and had no way to wrap up all the loose ends. The real question is why viewers repeatedly getted sucked into this crap.

LessinYerevan, Armenia

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-25-2010 10:17 AM

These pretzels make me stay thirsty, my friends.
 
Postulate:

The most interesting man in the world is not.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-25-2010 10:19 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 424762)
If you were watching it for the characters I could see being satisfied by the finale. But I was never that interested in the characters, who started out primarily as a means to drive forward the mysteries of the island. But somewhere in season 5 the writers decided that they couldn't explain even a sliver of the island's mystery in a coherent fashion, so having baited the hook, they pulled the switch and turned it into a character-driven morality play. Had enough of those in high school English.

I never watched Lost. Was Captain Nemo the mystery of the island?

taxwonk 05-25-2010 10:21 AM

Re: caption, please
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 424787)

Hey, what's with the fucking red x?

taxwonk 05-25-2010 10:22 AM

Re: These pretzels make me stay thirsty, my friends.
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 424811)
Postulate:

The most interesting man in the world is not.


Conceded.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-25-2010 10:31 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 424812)
I never watched Lost. Was Captain Nemo the mystery of the island?

Who knows? That's the problem.

What we did learn is that we can all be happy in heaven, or your religion's equivalent.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-25-2010 10:51 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 424806)
MY DVR may or may not have caught it, but it had become obvious a la the X-files that it had not been storyboarded in advance, they were winging it, making up shit on the fly, and had no way to wrap up all the loose ends. The real question is why viewers repeatedly getted sucked into this crap.

LessinYerevan, Armenia

'Cause it's still different than the alternative crap?

I caught about the last 20 or 30 minutes while having a scotch and unwinding before bed. It was somewhat more amusing than most shows, even with the shit-eating smiles on all the faces, but IT WAS STILL TV FOLKS.

If you want something intelligent, turn off the TV.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-25-2010 10:55 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 424819)
'Cause it's still different than the alternative crap?

I caught about the last 20 or 30 minutes while having a scotch and unwinding before bed. It was somewhat more amusing than most shows, even with the shit-eating smiles on all the faces, but IT WAS STILL TV FOLKS.

If you want something intelligent, turn off the TV.

Or turn on 30 Rock, Smuggy McSmug.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-25-2010 11:00 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 424821)
Or turn on 30 Rock, Smuggy McSmug.

I put that in the mildly more amusing category, too.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-25-2010 11:01 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 424821)
Or turn on 30 Rock, Smuggy McSmug.

30 Rock is funny, but not exactly intelligent. I mean, the last scene of the season is tracy jordan dancing topless at a wedding.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-25-2010 11:02 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 424823)
I put that in the mildly more amusing category, too.

Fine. Then watch Into The Universe with Stephen Hawking.

Hank Chinaski 05-25-2010 11:14 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 424825)
Fine. Then watch Into The Universe with Stephen Hawking.

freshman year I never watched TV. we'd do stuff like outside reading on US history and have long bull sessions in Nathan Hale's old room, in Connecticut hall, where I lived.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 05-25-2010 11:18 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 424829)
freshman year I never watched TV. we'd do stuff like outside reading on US history and have long bull sessions in Nathan Hale's old room, in Connecticut hall, where I lived.


I'd get high and read the Christian Science Monitor. True story!

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-25-2010 11:20 AM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 424829)
freshman year I never watched TV. we'd do stuff like outside reading on US history and have long bull sessions in Nathan Hale's old room, in Connecticut hall, where I lived.

I'm not even sure we had cable freshman year. In Ohio. Where I lived. We never watched TV, but we often got stoned and played RBI Baseball.


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