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I think I'm fairly representing the statutory definition of wilderness.

• The statutory definition of Wilderness is found in Section 2(c) of the Wilderness Act:
  
  "A wilderness, in contrast with those areas where man and his own works dominate the landscape, is hereby recognized as an area where the earth and community of life are untrammeled by man, where man himself is a visitor who does not remain."

You may disagree, but many, many Americans think that "driving one road and a pipeline through the ANWR" -- which I take to be a sort of lazy euphemism for the sort of extensive industrial development described by the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service in my last post -- will fundamentally diminish its "wilderness" quality.

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You've become Atticus. I've become NFH. Oh, the humanity.

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Well, it didn't include any reference to feces or etiquette, so we can't be positive. can we?

Oh. Sorry, man. Can't help you here. You're fucked.

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If so, I win! Woot!

Come on -- we were talking about wilderness bed-shitting. Try to stay with me.

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You're so old skool. I love you, man. <*sniff*>

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There have been so many. Did I like it?

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Do you doubt any of this? I don't.

I know he's a crazy fuck and all, but I wasn't aware he was fighting the Muslims?

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Or it could be bluster to make the US believe a truce actually has something in it for us.

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I took that to mean that the US shouldn't fight them, and should instead let ObL rebuild those places to be Muslim empires led by him. If the US does that he won't attack the US.

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It could be, but I doubt it. Do not read this in any way to mean I think a truce would have something in it for us, mind you. But I don't doubt they're probably trying to figure out a way to top 9/11. I also don't doubt that they are probably not particularly put off by our "security" efforts. Been to an airport lately?

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Your understanding makes more sense.

Damn, it still feels early to me -- I'm either stupid, or the story was lacking context. Take your pick.

And as I said, he is a crazy fuck.

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I wouldn't think OBL would have enough control to ensure no more attacks.

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I think you're right. AQ has always, to my understanding, been kind of a loose affiliation rather than a traditional hierarchical "organization", hasn't it? That said, what good would it do him to compromise with the U.S.? Isn't his ultimate goal to see all western presence/influence removed from the region, particularly SA? If he compromises, there goes whatever credibility he has with the likes of the disaffected arab male contingent that is his bread and butter.

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I say we accept the truce, but only on the condition that OBL pokes his head out of his hole to sign personally.

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That stutuory definition doesn't preclude a road. A road is something people, say people who are "visitors" to someplace... drive on. Unless people start living in the pipeline or on the road, I see no statutory violation there.

I'm unable to find any authority regarding whether paving falls into the govt definition of trammeling. Probably because I didn't look all that hard. But you will... so why should I bother?

Re your second point, many Americans think a Big Mac is healthy. Many Americans think UFOs landed in Roswell. Many Americans believe the planet is 6000 years old. That 1 or 2 million horses asses breathing the air in our 50 states have a hyper-narrow definition of wilderness doesn't mean jack.

ETA: Here's a novel thought... Instead of furiously googling for statutory authority, or cribbing the Sierra Club's insane ramblings on the issue, why not try applying a common sense analysis to the question of whether driving one road ane one pipeline into ANWR removes its "wilderness" maidenhead for all times?

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I took it as a sign of weakness, which in that culture, is suicide. Why else would he offer a truce to his sworn enemy? That is why Saddam played chicken with Bush.

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Didn't he offer something similar to Europe a year ago?

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Oh goodie. The reins of power, such as they are, will move on to someone we aren't as familiar with. Yay.

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Well, it's not like we were ever going to take him up on it, and he knew that, so he ends up looking like the good guy who had no choice but to follow up on his threat when we ungraciously told him to fuck himself and his truce.

I'm really sad about the CSM reporter. I don't know why her story resonates with me more than the thousands of other people who have been kidnapped or killed in Iraq by insurgents, but I really hope that she doesn't die.

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I don't think we can just kill him. we need to respect his constitutional rights. he deserves a trial. Or are you just accepting what the bushies have said he did?

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Liberal pantywaste. Shut up and let the adults handle this.

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There was a terrorism expert on the Daily Show a few nights ago (wrote a book called The Osama Bin Ladin I Know) that said that the best thing to do with him would be to capture him and give him the Sadaam treatment, so he's not looked upon as a martyr but as a failure.

It's nice to see that you're on board with the lastest theories on what to do about terrorism, Hank.

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An airport would probably be more convenient.

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what gets me is no one is up in arms about some dolt stealing the Hank sock on this judged. look i don't go there, but that guy could really hurt the goodwill associated with my mark.
SS you have a crown- please fix this. talk to someone there.

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How do you think Bukowski feels about you using his sock?

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On the other hand, the stock market dipped on the news.

If we are willing to talk, it shows what a big man he is. If we are unwilling to talk, he now has to do something to show he is a big man. I assume, however, that if he were serious he wouldn't have done this with a public announcement but instead with a private approach. It's all showmanship.

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If you take him on directly like this, it just builds him up. If you can't deliver a knock-out blow, you will be diminished. I recommend a private approach rather than a public one like this.

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Spain did.

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I agree with that. And when we catch him, we should have the Pakis send him to us on their finest flying pig, with Edward R. Murrow interviewing him the whole way.

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How do you explain Spain then?

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Just like that great Tom Hanks movie... You know, the one where he becomes all feral living in a Sbarro restroom...

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Uh, how's "chickenshits."

I watch CNN Europe all the time for laughs. They're a fucking joke. The whole damned continent is so utterly unprepared for any conflict. I blame us. We took their balls away from them after WWII.

Whatever, they're irrelevant in every regard, except as a place for me to spend some cash on vacation. Next.

And will someone tell the fucking Eurotrash on the telly over there to stop wearing their knots so fat. They're fancy enough without that shiite.

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The election in Spain was three days after an attack, not a video suggesting truce. And the ultimately defeated incumbant fucked up majorly by blaming the Basques immediately after the attack wasting a lot of time and pissing off the populace.

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Considering that the Basques like to blow people up, it wasn't that much of a stretch.

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It wasn't just the vote. Spain pulled out of Iraq, a condition to the truce. He offered, they accepted - no bombings since.

I think he would accept a truce with the US, because we've been seriously disrupting his MOJO over the last few years.* However, this is not to say that he's not still capable of launching a horrific attack on us.

*Assuming he's still alive.

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that was authorized. like the Paigow/hank Avatar.

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Basquist fuck.

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By the way, I wheeled out Guernica on judged. I'll let you know if it wins anything.

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what did the hank win on?