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Pretty Little Flower 09-14-2009 12:09 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone (Post 399675)
I don't think I've heard the song, but based on the title, I'm pretty sure the message is that if the single ladies would provide me with a cock ring, I could probably satisfy all of them. Nothing vapid or materialistic about that.

Another helpful post. Now I am beginning to understand the sub-text of the song and appreciate it even more. I don't like it, and what Kanye did to that little country waif was wrong, but I am at least beginning to understand the appeal.

Pretty Little Flower 09-14-2009 12:11 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 399676)
Here's that video with the song you love so much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRm4e...eature=related

Oh wow. This is freaking me out. I am tripping.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-14-2009 12:24 PM

Censure Kanye!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 399656)
Kanye West. does not care. about white people.

TM

Usually, this is not the sort of controversy I'd weigh in on, but so soon after the "You Lie!" episode, the wounds have not healed. What really separates Kanye West and Joe Wilson? This is a cheapening of our national discourse.

Fugee 09-14-2009 12:26 PM

Annoyed
 
I started watching this summer series "Defying Gravity" that I later heard described as Grey's Anatomy in Space. It was pretty bad but I kept watching because (1) there wasn't much else on Sunday nights and (2) I wanted to see this Beta thing that was such a big secret and made everyone act so weird.

So last night was the season finale. They were going to clear up this mystery because no way anyone is going to buy a second season of it, right?

Wrong. Waste of time.

evenodds 09-14-2009 12:27 PM

Re: Censure Kanye!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 399679)
Usually, this is not the sort of controversy I'd weigh in on, but so soon after the "You Lie!" episode, the wounds have not healed. What really separates Kanye West and Joe Wilson?

Apparently, nothing: Kanye interrupts the President.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-14-2009 12:29 PM

Re: Censure Kanye!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 399681)
Apparently, nothing: Kanye interrupts the President.

And Obama agrees with PLF's assessment of the lip-syncing woman's video. Wow. Heavy stuff.

Kanye Lied!

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-14-2009 12:32 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
One more thing, and then I've said enough.

All this is taking attention away from what really matters - Taylor Swift's video! Why isn't anyone talking about Taylor Swift's video?

dtb 09-14-2009 12:36 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 399674)
Thank you. This is quite helpful. It led me to the following, which makes me appreciate the Beyonce video much more. Best video? No way, and I still condemn the materialistic message that ABBA is in denial about, but I think I get it more now:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...eoid=34577810#

Is Gwen Verdon still alive? I had never heard her name before a few weeks ago. Since then, she's come up in conversation at least a half-dozen times.

Replaced_Texan 09-14-2009 12:40 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtb (Post 399685)
Is Gwen Verdon still alive? I had never heard her name before a few weeks ago. Since then, she's come up in conversation at least a half-dozen times.

Nope.

evenodds 09-14-2009 12:40 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 399683)
One more thing, and then I've said enough.

All this is taking attention away from what really matters - Taylor Swift's video! Why isn't anyone talking about Taylor Swift's video?

Because the most interesting thing about her is that Kanye interrupted her?

Q-Tip said on Twitter last night what I think all of America was thinking: "i guess thats why south park gay - fished him.... :( "

Hank Chinaski 09-14-2009 12:55 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 399666)
You are wrong. The message is for single ladies to go out and get big rings. Which is completely moronic. As if the song itself were not horrible enough, it has to come with this completely vapid and materialistic message.

is she wearing a necklace? ladies wear necklaces so we stare at their breasts. if she is wearing a necklace maybe that's why people like the video?

here's my vote for best video ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbh9c0noR4s

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-14-2009 01:18 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 399688)
is she wearing a necklace? ladies wear necklaces so we stare at their breasts. if she is wearing a necklace maybe that's why people like the video?

here's my vote for best video ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbh9c0noR4s

It's all pretty derivative after that.

Fugee 09-14-2009 01:24 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 399688)
here's my vote for best video ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbh9c0noR4s

I'm surprised this wasn't your favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8

bold_n_brazen 09-14-2009 02:06 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 399671)
Mom loved it.

Moving on, I went to Chuck E. Cheese this weekend for the first time ever. Contrary to what I was made to believe here, there was no booze. No. Booze. Hank's portrayal of the place as a den of trashy iniquity where parents drank and smoked in the corner while the children ran amok in a Lord-of-the-Flies-esque game pit was completely inaccurate. It is basically a Disney-fied birthday factory with complete sensory overload. I can see why B'n'B's nephew or whatever is concerned about the giant mouse, though. He was pretty creepy.


I have no nephews. I think that was Barely.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-14-2009 02:09 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 399690)
I'm surprised this wasn't your favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8

I feel dirty now. Like I'd been caught doing something truly shameful.

Fugee 09-14-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 399695)
I feel dirty now. Like I'd been caught doing something truly shameful.

hee hee hee

John Phoenix 09-14-2009 03:09 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 399659)
Madness. The best videos ever:

David Lee Roth: "California Girls" and "Just a Gigolo."

Radiohead: "Suterranean Homesick Alien."

Glenn Frey: "Smuggler's Blues" (awful song, but filmed like a Miami Vice episode)

Stones: "Undercover of the Night"

How could you leave out Hot for Teacher?

Glenn Frey was in a Miami Vice episode. Not sure which came first, the video or the guest spot.

John Phoenix 09-14-2009 03:10 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 399663)
ETA Beastie Boys: "Sabotage."

2. Topped by the Beavis & Butthead episode where they watch "Sabotage."

sebastian_dangerfield 09-14-2009 03:28 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Phoenix (Post 399697)
How could you leave out Hot for Teacher?

All I can do is hang my head there. There's also the George Michael video with the supermodels, "Freedom." And the amazing chick in that "Colorful" video by that guy named Rocco Deluca.

Replaced_Texan 09-14-2009 03:33 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 399699)
All I can do is hang my head there. There's also the George Michael video with the supermodels, "Freedom." And the amazing chick in that "Colorful" video by that guy named Rocco Deluca.

No "Girls on Film"??? (In no way safe for work, though 12 year old girls who loved everything and anything Duran Duran managed to view and remain relatively unscathed. Same for the Chauffeur. No idea if this is the rated or unrated version of that one)

Pretty Little Flower 09-14-2009 03:34 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 399694)
I have no nephews. I think that was Barely.

Yeah, I think you are right. Well, whomever's nephew it is has a good basis for his fears. Also, before the big mouse comes out, his minions work the crowd into a frenzy, making everyone chant "Chuck E. Cheese" over and over, louder and louder. That was unsettling.

LessinSF 09-14-2009 03:37 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 399699)
All I can do is hang my head there. There's also the George Michael video with the supermodels, "Freedom." And the amazing chick in that "Colorful" video by that guy named Rocco Deluca.

Chris Issac's "Wicked Game."

Replaced_Texan 09-14-2009 03:47 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 399702)
Chris Issac's "Wicked Game."

Wow. I forgot how sexy that video was.

Hank Chinaski 09-14-2009 03:54 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 399701)
Yeah, I think you are right. Well, whomever's nephew it is has a good basis for his fears. Also, before the big mouse comes out, his minions work the crowd into a frenzy, making everyone chant "Chuck E. Cheese" over and over, louder and louder. That was unsettling.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122878081364889613.html

some might not carry booze- but most do. did your sponsor pick out the one you went to?

Hank Chinaski

578-23

sebastian_dangerfield 09-14-2009 03:58 PM

The kids are not alright.
 
At least not these coldhearted little bastards: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090914/od_nm/us_sheep_odd

evenodds 09-14-2009 03:59 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
My long-time favorite was the old Janet Jackson "When I Think of You", which was the highly choreographed video that was supposedly only one take, but actually there were two or three obvious cuts. Still, it was an amazing accomplishment for a music video.

I also loved a lot of the rock and R&B videos from the 80s, as they were my first chances to see a family member's work on a regular basis.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-14-2009 04:00 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 399700)
No "Girls on Film"??? (In no way safe for work, though 12 year old girls who loved everything and anything Duran Duran managed to view and remain relatively unscathed. Same for the Chauffeur. No idea if this is the rated or unrated version of that one)

And Michael's "I Want Your Sex." The awkward title bugs me and the song's awful, but there's a lot of pouring of interesting fluids on some Asian model.

Adder 09-14-2009 04:12 PM

Re: The kids are not alright.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 399705)
At least not these coldhearted little bastards: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090914/od_nm/us_sheep_odd

The schoolchildren are certainly alright, but one has to wonder about those who think "a program designed to teach them about rearing and breeding animals" should include to lying to children about what happens to animals that are reared and bred.

Gattigap 09-14-2009 04:13 PM

Re: The kids are not alright.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 399705)
At least not these coldhearted little bastards: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090914/od_nm/us_sheep_odd

[Tangent]

Could be worse. Week or two ago, Fresh Air interviewed this guy - a famous animal trainer who trains all kinds of animals for film and stage roles. Among other stuff, he talked about lambs.

Quote:

BIANCULLI: In "Gypsy," not the current Broadway revival, but the previous one with Bernadette Peters, you used a lamb. How do you train a lamb, and how often do you have to replace lambs?

Mr. BERLONI: In "Gypsy," the family, the Hovick family, of which June Hovick and Gypsy were part of - and Mama Rose - loved animals. They were vaudevillians who had all sorts of animals, and so that was written into the script, their love of animals. And how and why a baby lamb was chosen, I'll never know.

***


BIANCULLI: Are lambs always available?

Mr. BERLONI: No. That was the other thing. I talked to one of the original stagehands who worked on the Ethel Merman production, and they used to go to the meat market - this was in the 1950s - get baby lambs, use them and then barbecue them after the show was over, when they got too large, which in the '50s was an accepted practice for meat animals.
[/tangent]

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2009 04:15 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 399707)
And Michael's "I Want Your Sex." The awkward title bugs me and the song's awful, but there's a lot of pouring of interesting fluids on some Asian model.

In retrospect, the presence of the asian model in that video rather baffles me.

greatwhitenorthchick 09-14-2009 04:16 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 399646)
Another performer whose songs I hear solely in the context of spin class. That wine song makes me cringe. I don't think I have seen her, though. Is she hot? If she is hot and refuses to wear pants, as you say, I could maybe warm up to her.

You must be living under a rock if you have never seen Lady Gaga. Even I know of her hair-bow and fake dick.

I also do not get the hype, although, as I have mentioned here before, her song gets stuck in my head. It's catchy. Like "cos-tan-za!"

Pretty Little Flower 09-14-2009 04:21 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 399704)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122878081364889613.html

some might not carry booze- but most do. did your sponsor pick out the one you went to?

Hank Chinaski

578-23

Maybe the CEC's in Detroit serve booze and need to officially prohibit knives, chains, and glass cutters, but not in Edina. Come to think of it, the lurking threat of drunken gang violence might have added a welcome edginess to the environment.

Pretty Little Flower 09-14-2009 04:24 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 399712)
You must be living under a rock if you have never seen Lady Gaga. Even I know of her hair-bow and fake dick.

I also do not get the hype, although, as I have mentioned here before, her song gets stuck in my head. It's catchy. Like "cos-tan-za!"

Where would I see her if I don't watch videos, don't subscribe to Rolling Stone, and don't watch Entertainment TV. Although your description has certainly intrigued me. Hair-bow?!?!?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-14-2009 04:40 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 399712)
You must be living under a rock if you have never seen Lady Gaga. Even I know of her hair-bow and fake dick.

I also do not get the hype, although, as I have mentioned here before, her song gets stuck in my head. It's catchy. Like "cos-tan-za!"

I know her from wwtdd.com. That's it.

Fugee 09-14-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 399712)
You must be living under a rock if you have never seen Lady Gaga. Even I know of her hair-bow and fake dick.

I didn't know about the fake dick.

ETA: What I didn't know until I read her Wikipedia entry is that she has real musical talent.** She got into Julliard at 11 (but went to Catholic school instead) and also got early admission to NYU's Tisch School. A friend's son goes there and the audition process is pretty competitive.

**I have no opinion on whether it is exhibited in her music.

Adder 09-14-2009 04:43 PM

Re: Kanye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 399714)
Maybe the CEC's in Detroit serve booze and need to officially prohibit knives, chains, and glass cutters, but not in Edina. Come to think of it, the lurking threat of drunken gang violence might have added a welcome edginess to the environment.

Edina at least used to be a dry city. Or so I recall.

notcasesensitive 09-14-2009 04:52 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 399712)
You must be living under a rock if you have never seen Lady Gaga. Even I know of her hair-bow and fake dick.

I also do not get the hype, although, as I have mentioned here before, her song gets stuck in my head. It's catchy. Like "cos-tan-za!"

I don't think I have ever seen her. I'm not sure which songs are hers either, though I'm sure I have heard some of them (in untraditional pilates class, no doubt).

I do, however, know A-Ha. In fact I belted out The Sun Always Shines on TV along with First Wave on my way home from class the other night. A great singing-in-the-car song.

These two facts are tenuously related at best.

Replaced_Texan 09-14-2009 04:57 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 399716)
I know her from wwtdd.com. That's it.

Jezebel likes to post pictures of her pretty regularly. I wouldn't be able to pick out a song of hers out of a lineup. But I like her for the way she simply baffles people with her attire.

greatwhitenorthchick 09-14-2009 05:02 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 399715)
Where would I see her if I don't watch videos, don't subscribe to Rolling Stone, and don't watch Entertainment TV. Although your description has certainly intrigued me. Hair-bow?!?!?

my images appear to be posted as red x's, so you should google images "lady gaga hair bow" or "lady gaga hermaphrodite" and your curiosity should be satisfied.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-14-2009 05:04 PM

Re: Lady GaGa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 399720)
Jezebel likes to post pictures of her pretty regularly. I wouldn't be able to pick out a song of hers out of a lineup. But I like her for the way she simply baffles people with her attire.

Didn't Marilyn Manson do this shtick ten years ago?


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