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Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-16-2015 07:40 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 497812)
I can honestly now say I no longer like him.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/politi...ent/index.html

TM
Looking forward to Ty's defense of that one.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-20-2015 01:34 PM
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So this morning we have Sarah Palin, Bill Maher, Richard Dawkins, and Michelle Bachman earnest defending Irving Texas.

Ahmed is clearly a hero.

Hank Chinaski 09-20-2015 01:53 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497875)
So this morning we have Sarah Palin, Bill Maher, Richard Dawkins, and Michelle Bachman earnest defending Irving Texas.

Ahmed is clearly a hero.
Liar hero? http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/...and-ourselves/

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-20-2015 02:00 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497876)
Are you joining the Ahmed-truther team, Hank?

Hank Chinaski 09-20-2015 02:05 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497877)
Are you joining the Ahmed-truther team, Hank?
No. Still crazy to have arrested him, but from the start I thought there is no way that is a clock actually designed by someone in 2015. Too big, and in a briefcase?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-20-2015 02:14 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497878)
No. Still crazy to have arrested him, but from the start I thought there is no way that is a clock actually designed by someone in 2015. Too big, and in a briefcase?
Your point is what? That's he's not going to make a fortune in the clock business?

He's 14 and tinkers.

Hank Chinaski 09-20-2015 02:28 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497879)
Your point is what? That's he's not going to make a fortune in the clock business?

He's 14 and tinkers.
Did you read the article? It's a Radio Shack kit.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-20-2015 02:36 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497880)
Did you read the article? It's a Radio Shack kit.
So? Again, what's the point? Do you think there is a conspiracy? That he decided he was going to goad the school into arresting him by bringing in a bomb-like device (fyi, if its the article I saw this morning that Dawkins was hawking it said it was a disassembled 70s clock from ebay, but, you know, whatever). Do you think it looks like it was made as a hoax- bomb?

Or do you think he's a 14 year old boy on the robotics team who is doing what 14 year old boys on the robotics team do?

Hank Chinaski 09-20-2015 02:44 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497881)
So? Again, what's the point? Do you think there is a conspiracy? That he decided he was going to goad the school into arresting him by bringing in a bomb-like device (fyi, if its the article I saw this morning that Dawkins was hawking it said it was a disassembled 70s clock from ebay, but, you know, whatever). Do you think it looks like it was made as a hoax- bomb?

Or do you think he's a 14 year old boy on the robotics team who is doing what 14 year old boys on the robotics team do?
I don't what the kid was thinking, neither do you. Serious question, wasn't your kid on robotics? Did em make circuit boards or use old ones?

I was just surprised because the press was most certainly that the kid was this massively inventive kid- and of course, I was too lazy to even put together a kit so he is certainly not deserving of ridicule if all he did was that.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-20-2015 02:56 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497882)
I don't what the kid was thinking, neither do you. Serious question, wasn't your kid on robotics? Did em make circuit boards or use old ones?

I was just surprised because the press was most certainly that the kid was this massively inventive kid- and of course, I was too lazy to even put together a kit so he is certainly not deserving of ridicule if all he did was that.
Two kids on robotics team, one now at college (you'll be happy to know heading for engineering), one 14 and, like Ahmed, in his first couple of weeks of high school. They were both playing with circuit boards from early ages. They both have boxes of stuff in their room they've salvaged from anything we might have thrown away, like old clocks, old computers, etc. New circuit boards cost money, so they worked with lots of salvaged ones as well as new. Half the kids on robotics team have something in their backpacks with wires, circuit boards, and odd parts on any given day.

So, yeah, Ahmed's clock is the kind of thing my kids have done. I don't think we should assume he's a genius or anything because he had a project with him, but that's he's a kid just like many others, with an interest in stuff. But he got arrested.

One thing you and I both know that's not, though, is a bomb. Nothing in that box goes boom. Biggest damage it could do is a short circuit. Can make a bigger explosion with a bottle of coke.

Adder 09-21-2015 10:11 AM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497880)
Did you read the article? It's a Radio Shack kit.
Didn't read it, because you link is dead, but so what?

Adder 09-21-2015 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497881)
That he decided he was going to goad the school into arresting him by bringing in a bomb-like device
And even if that's what happened, again, so what? Like what the school and cops did was okay as long as he was trying to be Rosa Parks?

ThurgreedMarshall 09-21-2015 11:13 AM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497882)
I don't what the kid was thinking, neither do you. Serious question, wasn't your kid on robotics? Did em make circuit boards or use old ones?

I was just surprised because the press was most certainly that the kid was this massively inventive kid- and of course, I was too lazy to even put together a kit so he is certainly not deserving of ridicule if all he did was that.
I am fairly confused about the point you're trying to make. It has to be one of the following two, I think:

1. He intentionally made a clock that looks like a bomb so that he could intimidate his teacher into thinking he may someday bring in an actual bomb.

2. He's not as creative as we were led to believe and he doesn't deserve the gifts he got from Microsoft, an invitation to the White House, or really much credit at all for whatever he put together.

If it's 1, I think you're a dumbass. If it's 2, I gotta wonder what that has to do with anything. Is the point you're making, as it relates to liberals, that we are so quick to credit someone who is being discriminated against that we don't stop to think whether they deserve it? Because that's silly. The point of all this is to let the boy (and others like him) know that there are lots of people in this country who aren't ignorant bigots and to support him in the face of small-minded hatred.

TM

Replaced_Texan 09-21-2015 06:17 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497875)
So this morning we have Sarah Palin, Bill Maher, Richard Dawkins, and Michelle Bachman earnest defending Irving Texas.

Ahmed is clearly a hero.
Irving in what sense? I've made the call on more than one occasion to call law enforcement because of a perceived threat. Whether or not that perception was reasonable or not I didn't / don't really give a shit about. If someone feels threatened, I tell them to call the police.

After that, I think that the police were ridiculously unreasonable, as well as the administration. But the initial call? I guess I defend Irving too. And I'll do so with much more enthusiasm come January 1, when open carry in this state (and specifically my place of employment) becomes the law of this great state of idiots.

Hank Chinaski 09-21-2015 06:26 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 497886)
I am fairly confused about the point you're trying to make.
This morning I argued for 4 hours in front of a Federal Judge and with two dogged subnormals. On this board I"m not always trying to "make points." I get tired of arguing. Sometimes I'm just trying to converse about an issue. Does everything here need to be an argument?

I just thought the deconstruction was interesting, and somewhat contradicted the impression I had from the initial reports.

Hank Chinaski 09-21-2015 06:31 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 497892)
Irving in what sense? I've made the call on more than one occasion to call law enforcement because of a perceived threat. Whether or not that perception was reasonable or not I didn't / don't really give a shit about. If someone feels threatened, I tell them to call the police.

After that, I think that the police were ridiculously unreasonable, as well as the administration. But the initial call? I guess I defend Irving too. And I'll do so with much more enthusiasm come January 1, when open carry in this state (and specifically my place of employment) becomes the law of this great state of idiots.
Exactly. I think the initial "WTF is that?" was understandable, even required. I am in no position to say whether it was a bomb or a clock. From Facebook it appears Taxwonk is highly skilled and could have made the determination, but what if no one at the school had Taxwonk's tech skills? Wouldn't you want to have someone else look at it, and that would be someone who could determine what it was? Where it went overboard is arresting the kid, not questioning what the thing was.

Hank Chinaski 09-21-2015 10:11 PM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
http://kfor.com/2015/09/21/oklahoma-...view_id=475112

I'm ambidextrous, so I'm often using my left hand, and it is sinister (by definition). Best story- one break I got a job at a window factory. Another guy and I got hired. I was assigned worked in a 6 foot square space assembling windows with a drill. The other guy got the stock job, meaning he drove a lift truck all around and could hide behind stacks of glass. The second day I told the sup the drills were all "right-handed" (no such thing actually) and I couldn't use them. I was swapped out to the stock job. Sweet sweet naps every day after that! Oh, so I did use it in an evil way.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-21-2015 11:03 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 497892)
Irving in what sense? I've made the call on more than one occasion to call law enforcement because of a perceived threat. Whether or not that perception was reasonable or not I didn't / don't really give a shit about. If someone feels threatened, I tell them to call the police.

After that, I think that the police were ridiculously unreasonable, as well as the administration. But the initial call? I guess I defend Irving too. And I'll do so with much more enthusiasm come January 1, when open carry in this state (and specifically my place of employment) becomes the law of this great state of idiots.
This is a high school and he's a science nerd and someone's excited about circuit boards and wires? This is kind of like someone panicking in a hospital because a doctor has a scalpel. A tour of their computer lab would really frighten the shit out of these teachers.

FYI, if you want to worry about bombs in a high school, worry about kids with fluids in gatorade bottles. Those bombs are vastly easier to make than anything with wires and uses the explosive material most people have under their kitchen sink.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-21-2015 11:05 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497894)
Exactly. I think the initial "WTF is that?" was understandable, even required. I am in no position to say whether it was a bomb or a clock. From Facebook it appears Taxwonk is highly skilled and could have made the determination, but what if no one at the school had Taxwonk's tech skills? Wouldn't you want to have someone else look at it, and that would be someone who could determine what it was? Where it went overboard is arresting the kid, not questioning what the thing was.
Of course, the police said they had determined it wasn't a bomb before they arrested him.

Adder 09-22-2015 10:20 AM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497893)
I just thought the deconstruction was interesting, and somewhat contradicted the impression I had from the initial reports.
There were a lot of early reports, which I thought were weird, that were talking about the clock and/or his abilities that seemed unlikely to pan out. They were especially weird because it didn't have to be some sort of groundbreaking scientific achievement to be a story.

But it's still fundamentally weird to go all Richard Dawkins on the fact that it was just a clock. Sorry, Dick, but that was not what the story was about.

Adder 09-22-2015 10:22 AM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497894)
From Facebook it appears Taxwonk is highly skilled and could have made the determination, but what if no one at the school had Taxwonk's tech skills?
Didn't his "engineering" (or whatever) teacher recognize it as just a clock?

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Where it went overboard is arresting the kid, not questioning what the thing was.
Sure

ThurgreedMarshall 09-22-2015 11:34 AM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497893)
This morning I argued for 4 hours in front of a Federal Judge and with two dogged subnormals. On this board I"m not always trying to "make points." I get tired of arguing. Sometimes I'm just trying to converse about an issue. Does everything here need to be an argument?

I just thought the deconstruction was interesting, and somewhat contradicted the impression I had from the initial reports.
Uh...Having a point doesn't necessarily mean you're arguing. I was trying to figure out what you were saying.

TM

Hank Chinaski 09-22-2015 12:43 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 497899)
Didn't his "engineering" (or whatever) teacher recognize it as just a clock?
I haven't read as much as you probably have, but if so then it shouldn't have gone anywhere. And if, as GGG says, every geek is walking around with that much circuitry and this guy gets popped while Biff Smith is free to walk around wwith it, then that is also pretty fucked up.

Hank Chinaski 09-22-2015 12:44 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 497900)
Uh...Having a point doesn't necessarily mean you're arguing. I was trying to figure out what you were saying.

TM
yesterday was a bad day in hank-land.

ThurgreedMarshall 09-22-2015 01:14 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497902)
yesterday was a bad day in hank-land.
Sorry to hear it, my friend.

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-22-2015 01:52 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 497902)
yesterday was a bad day in hank-land.
Do something for yourself, cheer yourself up a bit. Like today, I'm trolling Wonk's born-agains on FB as a little birthday gift to him.

ThurgreedMarshall 09-22-2015 02:46 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497904)
Do something for yourself, cheer yourself up a bit. Like today, I'm trolling Wonk's born-agains on FB as a little birthday gift to him.
I don't know how you do it. It's like arguing with bark.

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-22-2015 02:54 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 497905)
I don't know how you do it. It's like arguing with bark.

TM
One of them has gone the "how do you know Obama a Christian route". Uggghhhhhh.

ThurgreedMarshall 09-22-2015 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497910)
One of them has gone the "how do you know Obama a Christian route". Uggghhhhhh.
Exactly. How do you know Huckabee's not gay? How do you know Carson isn't a psychopath? How do you know Fiorina isn't a terrible business woman.* How does one know anyone is a Christian?

TM

*Sorry. Tons of verifiable evidence on this one.

Hank Chinaski 09-22-2015 03:25 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497910)
One of them has gone the "how do you know Obama a Christian route". Uggghhhhhh.
Wonk's fb is so so ugly. I have tea party people on mine but I would never talk to them about politics. wonk's is lousey with them.

ThurgreedMarshall 09-22-2015 03:29 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497910)
One of them has gone the "how do you know Obama a Christian route". Uggghhhhhh.
Exactly. How do you know Huckabee's not gay? How do you know Carson isn't a psychopath? How do you know Fiorina isn't a terrible business woman.* How does one know anyone is a Christian?

TM

*Sorry. Tons of verifiable evidence on this one.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-22-2015 06:26 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 497915)
Exactly. How do you know Huckabee's not gay? How do you know Carson isn't a psychopath? How do you know Fiorina isn't a terrible business woman.* How does one know anyone is a Christian?

TM

*Sorry. Tons of verifiable evidence on this one.
Carson is a seventh day adventist - there are lots of born agains who would be happy to debate whether the Adventists constitute a "cult" (like the Mormons) or are "Christians", so he could face the same "he's not a Christian" claims in other contexts.

And of course we know the Pope may well be the anti-Christ, so you've got to watch that one, too.

All of this reminds me how nice it is to no longer live in upstate NY where I grew up. Wonk, you need to take them all to a nice AME Zion church in the area so they can see what Christianity ought to look like.

Sidd Finch 09-22-2015 08:41 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497904)
Do something for yourself, cheer yourself up a bit. Like today, I'm trolling Wonk's born-agains on FB as a little birthday gift to him.
I do that occasionally, but if I go too deep it can be a problem. There have been interventions. (I think you were involved in one, some years ago --- a "dude, step away from the computer" email.)

Sidd Finch 09-22-2015 08:42 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497910)
One of them has gone the "how do you know Obama a Christian route". Uggghhhhhh.
Must....resist.......aaaarrggghhhh

Hank Chinaski 09-22-2015 08:49 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 497917)
I do that occasionally, but if I go too deep it can be a problem. There have been interventions. (I think you were involved in one, some years ago --- a "dude, step away from the computer" email.)
I find trolling beneath me.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-22-2015 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 497917)
I do that occasionally, but if I go too deep it can be a problem. There have been interventions. (I think you were involved in one, some years ago --- a "dude, step away from the computer" email.)
Yes, I'm going to be stepping away very soon. Hoping their heads explode before mine.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-22-2015 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497920)
Yes, I'm going to be stepping away very soon. Hoping their heads explode before mine.
I think I'm now being shunned.

Sidd Finch 09-23-2015 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 497921)
I think I'm now being shunned.
Jesus H. I finally found the cesspool you were wading in. It was like 10,000 forks, when all you need was a lap dance.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-23-2015 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 497924)
Jesus H. I finally found the cesspool you were wading in. It was like 10,000 forks, when all you need was a lap dance.
You look for lap dances in the strangest places.

Replaced_Texan 09-23-2015 12:00 PM
Re: Brady hearts Trump?
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 497924)
Jesus H. I finally found the cesspool you were wading in. It was like 10,000 forks, when all you need was a lap dance.
Eeesh.

I'm very impressed that Wonk has not hit "unfriend" at any point during these discussions.


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