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sebastian_dangerfield 04-10-2020 11:19 PM
Re: uh oh
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 527981)
Different lender is one thing but lenders HAVE to be pulling credit reports now. If Bank A sees you asking for a bailout from Bank B I wonder if they reduce that credit line to zero.

I haven't tapped any credit lines yet but I haven't rushed to pay bills early.

The way I look at it is if we turn into The Walking Dead and the money in your account isn't useful, actual cash would be less useful. You never see Carol paying for stuff with fives, do you but last season in, Carol was living in a cute little shack she found.

The only thing is if Elizabeth honey, I have the big one, and the house is paid for, my wife and kid really don't have to worry about anything $ wise for a while. As nice as it sounds to pack up the cash and walk over the border to Canada (I know the hidden spots) there's too much equity in this house to just walk away unless we turn into Venezuela.

And if shit does turn around, I am predicting a fire sale on Manhattan real estate and a mad rush to the burbs so I can be like this guy and ask for $20 million. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130808015306
Under the policies of my lender, there is no adverse reporting. I could take holiday and be reported as current. YMMV.

I bought in burbs ahead of 2007 and bet on concept the crash would wreck cities in my state. I think I may double my home’s value based oddly what is happening more in NYC. NJ tax refugee flight is only going to accelerate.

I just have to hold on to the damn property now!

Hank Chinaski 04-10-2020 11:37 PM
Re: uh oh
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 527982)
Under the policies of my lender, there is no adverse reporting. I could take holiday and be reported as current. YMMV.

I bought in burbs ahead of 2007 and bet on concept the crash would wreck cities in my state. I think I may double my home’s value based oddly what is happening more in NYC. NJ tax refugee flight is only going to accelerate.

I just have to hold on to the damn property now!
I don't really know what you or Icky are saying, but i took a bat and put nails through it. Is that planning for the future?

sebastian_dangerfield 04-11-2020 11:06 AM
Re: uh oh
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 527983)
I don't really know what you or Icky are saying, but i took a bat and put nails through it. Is that planning for the future?
For the near term future, it’s a start.

A friend of mine who’s into guns told me a lot of the handguns are now sold out. He saw people in a store who clearly didn’t know guns asking for anything available. They were buying all kinds of crazy rifles.

So that’s cool. We have loads of people with no gun training learning on the fly with assault weapons.

This is all going to work out, but man is it going to be a freak show of a ride from here to there.

Icky Thump 04-11-2020 11:55 AM
Re: uh oh
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 527984)
For the near term future, it’s a start.

A friend of mine who’s into guns told me a lot of the handguns are now sold out. He saw people in a store who clearly didn’t know guns asking for anything available. They were buying all kinds of crazy rifles.

So that’s cool. We have loads of people with no gun training learning on the fly with assault weapons.

This is all going to work out, but man is it going to be a freak show of a ride from here to there.
Lock down goes too long and the toll from people shooting each other for their spots in line at Whole Foods could be worse than the pandemic toll if Trump opens things up.

Hank Chinaski 04-11-2020 02:01 PM
Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
So current word? I watched a video from a NYC ER doc trying to give his family and friends sort of words of wisdom and comfort- it was from 3 weeks ago- he said the odds of breathing it in are almost nil, and the only time he worries if when he performs a procedure that basically forces someone to cough. He said wash hands, don't touch nose or mouth and you will be safe.

Has this changed? I get the bad luck of being next to someone contagious who coughs, but other than that is the doc's advice old?

sebastian_dangerfield 04-11-2020 02:04 PM
Scott Galloway on the bailout
 
Required reading. Definite mic drop: https://www.profgalloway.com/capitalists-or-cronyists

sebastian_dangerfield 04-11-2020 02:11 PM
Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 527986)
So current word? I watched a video from a NYC ER doc trying to give his family and friends sort of words of wisdom and comfort- it was from 3 weeks ago- he said the odds of breathing it in are almost nil, and the only time he worries if when he performs a procedure that basically forces someone to cough. He said wash hands, don't touch nose or mouth and you will be safe.

Has this changed? I get the bad luck of being next to someone contagious who coughs, but other than that is the doc's advice old?
Reassuring. The counter which assumes aerosol particles causing it is based on stuff like this: https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/doz...FMBGPI2FWPJJE/

There’s also some experiment where a scientist turned it to aerosol and reported it survived in air for hours: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973

No expert consensus, it appears: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00974-w

Hank Chinaski 04-11-2020 06:01 PM
Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
My son the supermarket worker has yet to get hazard pay raise, but TODAY all employees got a T-shirts saying they are _____ Market Superheroes!

So there is that.

Icky Thump 04-11-2020 06:46 PM
Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 527986)
So current word? I watched a video from a NYC ER doc trying to give his family and friends sort of words of wisdom and comfort- it was from 3 weeks ago- he said the odds of breathing it in are almost nil, and the only time he worries if when he performs a procedure that basically forces someone to cough. He said wash hands, don't touch nose or mouth and you will be safe.

Has this changed? I get the bad luck of being next to someone contagious who coughs, but other than that is the doc's advice old?
It's pretty fucking easy to get in a city of 8 million who use mass transit every day.

If you aren't wearing a mask in public and bathing in purell when you get home.

Icky Thump 04-11-2020 06:52 PM
Re: Scott Galloway on the bailout
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 527987)
Required reading. Definite mic drop: https://www.profgalloway.com/capitalists-or-cronyists
Correct. Pretty good article.

>>Rugged individualism and capitalism on the way up, privatizing the gains — and then socialism/cronyism on the way down as we socialize the losses with bailouts.

Say no to bailouts.

Hank Chinaski 04-11-2020 07:08 PM
Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 527990)
It's pretty fucking easy to get in a city of 8 million who use mass transit every day.

If you aren't wearing a mask in public and bathing in purell when you get home.
He is a NYC doc in an ER, he might know more that us? I'm not saying what I think I was asking what the latest is. Plus are trains still crowded? Where are people going? At this point I'd be looking for the empty car with the shit stained crazy guy.

Icky Thump 04-11-2020 07:30 PM
From a teaching medical school
 
The purpose of this research study is to determine if chloroquine is effective in health care workers with moderate to high risk of exposure to COVID-19 in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 infections.

Icky Thump 04-11-2020 07:32 PM
Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 527992)
He is a NYC doc in an ER, he might know more that us? I'm not saying what I think I was asking what the latest is. Plus are trains still crowded? Where are people going? At this point I'd be looking for the empty car with the shit stained crazy guy.
My point was that was a month ago. Then, they did not think the virus was airborne but there's some differing thought now.

I haven't been on a train since 3/11.

Icky Thump 04-11-2020 08:04 PM
Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 527992)
He is a NYC doc in an ER, he might know more that us? I'm not saying what I think I was asking what the latest is. Plus are trains still crowded? Where are people going? At this point I'd be looking for the empty car with the shit stained crazy guy.
Case in point, this was published yesterday

Adder 04-11-2020 08:36 PM
Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 527995)
You remember when Sebby was railing against scientifically accurate articles expressing skepticism about an entirely unsubstantiated treatment? Apply that level of vitriol, but this time well-founded against this.

There may well be airborne transmission of this. That other “similar” viruses were transmissible through the air is very weak evidence. It’s a different virus.

It’s different from how four doctors told Sebby that they believe an unproven treatment works, despite a lack of control, but similar. We aren’t going to solve this by intuition.


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