Reverend Greenspan
 

If that happens, we'd have to move the capital (or Capitol, if you prefer, either one) to Fantasyland.

Lets talk about sex baby
 

OK moron, we could all do it in highschool without doing yoga. What's your point? My point was that I am now happy I can do it again (now with the benefit of yoga) even though I spend at least eight hours per day on my inflexible ass in front of a computer and am pushing 35.

Color is the New Black
 

You cannot blame them for trying to spin "color" as the new black. They need us buying.

The article tickled me because it reminded me of my teens and early twenties when my high-falootin society aunt would visit us in the provinces and declare: "purple is the new neutral" or "red is the new neutral." The needle has been stuck on "black is the new neutral" for a very long time.

Last year, with the bohemian thing, you saw a lot more white and color than had been seen in a long time. Still, I doubt I will see many people dressed as if for the easter parade wandering around downtown.

Given the present economic circumstances, I am far more likely to buy a new pair of shoes than a new ensemble. My shopping is mostly limited to two big overhauls a year (spring and fall), rather than shopping two or three times a month.

Even(my personal shoppers miss me)Odds

Ariel, Izzat you?
 

From cnn.com, the nation's most trusted and unbiased news source:

NEW YORK, New York (Reuters) -- New York City has to fork out $10,000 for arresting a woman who appeared topless at the 2001 Coney Island Mermaid Parade, her lawyer said Wednesday.

The 31-year-old Brooklyn woman, Amy Gunderson, wore only a thong and body paint at the annual Mermaid parade and sued the city for violating her First Amendment rights after police arrested her.

"A woman has a constitutional right to appear in public topless, the same right that men have," her lawyer, Ron Kuby, said.

The city settled after the charges against Gunderson were dismissed. City lawyer Deborah Meyer said the city "makes business decisions every day" and it was "in our best interest to settle."

Kuby said Gunderson planned to make an encore appearance at this year's parade. He did not say whether she would be wearing a shirt or not.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

As I recover from the first round of the playoffs, I thought that it would be interesting to revisit an old topic -- namely, whether your spouse or significant other or insignificant other (or all three) knows about us.

You know, the FB. Home of salacious talk with imaginary friends. Or about the related PMs, IMs, emails, etc.

And, per the rules for these sorts of polls, I'll go first. Not Bob's Answer is No. I wrestle with this, because I don't think that anything I do or say on the FB (or via IM or email) rises to the level of being in the same zip code as Conduct Contrary To Monogomous Wedded Bliss, as measured by objective standards.

But (and this is a-bigger-than-J. Lo's "but"), my wife wouldn't like it. None of it. Men and women, chatting on the computer? Egad. Talking about the things that are discussed here? (See eg the kama sutra thread) Yoikes.

So I rationalize that it's like a bad habit that one doesn't share -- like the secret cigarettes or shots of heroin that some spouses hide from the other. Yeah yeah yeah, I know -- it's self-justifying rationalization.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

Kafka-ette knows, has posted (once), and met several FBers. She recognizes that the FB and other chat boards I follow (e.g. hackers.com) are a good way to harmlessly blow off steam.

Speaking of heroin and sharing, here's another story liberated from (yet attributed properly to) CNN.com:

STAMFORD, Connecticut (AP) -- You have the right to remain silent, but what if you vomit evidence before police read you your rights?

Vincent Betances wants his drug-dealing conviction thrown out, arguing that eight bags of heroin he threw up after emergency medical treatment should never have been admitted into evidence.

He contends police illegally seized the evidence from an ambulance after asking him if he'd swallowed heroin -- but before reading him his rights.

The state Supreme Court heard arguments in the case Wednesday and is expected to issue a ruling this summer.

. . . .

While handcuffed and in a police cruiser, Betances began sweating profusely, turned pale and had difficulty breathing. Betances admitted he had swallowed four bags.

A paramedic gave Betances a medication to prevent the body's absorption of the drugs. A short time later Betances threw up eight bags of heroin, which an officer seized.

Assistant State's Attorney Toni Smith-Rosario argued that police should not be penalized for protecting the public, including defendants in their custody.

"Most defendants are grateful when police save their lives," Smith-Rosario said.

Suzanne Zitser, a public defender representing Betances, countered that exceptions to the Miranda warning must satisfy stringent requirements.

"It's not even a close call in this case," Zitser said. "There was no threat to the public or police officer safety."

Wouldn't this fall under the Plain View Doctrine?

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

Yes, the OddMan knows about the FB.

I have sent him posts I have written about him, notably his drunken exploits in the old Dude, Where's My Car poll.

AI - Thank You America (But you're still stupid)
 

Yes. Please send the Marines home.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

Mr. Kiss knows about the FB and has met one FBer. I don't think he "gets" it though. I have visited a site he hangs out on for scuba divers and they talk about -- GASP!!! -- scuba diving and not much else. He thinks we talk about "depositions" all the time. Er, wait......

AI - Thank You America (But you're still stupid)
 

Was Josh bottom 2? I figured after not getting bottom three with the song celebration, he was an untouchable.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

Possibly, but I think the issue here is whether you view this as substantive evidence, in which case it would apply, or the argument the suspect seems to be making, which is whether the act constitutes a voluntary confession, otherwise Miranda wouldn't apply. It's an interesting argument, but probably a loser.

I seem to remember a case where the police offered the suspect a cigarette, and the suspect left the butt in the ashtray of the police car. The police then took it and had the suspect's DNA extracted from the cigarette and used that evidence to convict. The court basically held that if the police did not do this with the intent to coerce the defendant to give up evidence, it was allowed. I'll try to find the cite.

AI - Thank You America (But you're still stupid)
 

Yes.

And he's not untouchable. Look at what's left. Besides, the judges are starting to try to manage the outcomes. I believe Simon may have said last night as Josh and Carmen were standing there, that neither one had a chance of winning the competition. He's out next week. You read it here first.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

Mrs. Fish does not know. She also doesn't know about the torrid affair I am carrying on with JFF as the result of posting on the boards. What can I say? I can't resist that taut bod. I'm so weak. And you're all jealous. :rolleyes:

AI - Thank You America (But you're still stupid)
 

I thought the judges said that none of the bottom three had a chance--including Trenyce. (Not because they were bottom three but because they suck).

I am simply floored that Carmen and Josh made it as far as they did. Although it was fun cheering when they finally hit a correct note. That one time.

AI - Thank You America (But you're still stupid)
 

With respect to Trenyce, I think there was a caveat. They said she wouldn't have a chance, unless she started to step it up like Kim L. has done in the last couple of weeks. The other two: no chance in hell was the message.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

My husband knows about it and has met some FB'ers. He doesn't quite get it, though. Although I'm not sure there's anything to get.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

I think that you need more facts. Like did he throw up before or after April 14, 2003, and if it was after, how much insurance does the ambulance company have.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

Yes, he knows about the FB. But he doesn't know my moniker, even though a couple of FBers know my identity IRL. Even though he is (gasp) a lawyer, he doesn't peruse the boards. If he did, it probably wouldn't occur to him that his Mrs. is the AMM.

And, no, he doesn't know about the secret cigarettes, either.

AM(oh, come on, honey...it's just a little harmless fun, kinda like porn)M

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

Mrs. Sandwich knows that I peruse the Mom & Dad board as well as my regional and practice boards, but she does not know I read this board. Content-wise I don't think she'd care, but if she knew the amount of time I waste reading and occasionally posting here, she'd probably be irritated.

I know no other posters and thus do not send PMs and emails. But if I did engage in the exchanging of risque and flirty PMs to female posters (which I believe is pretty harmless) I sure as shit would not tell my wife about it. But of course I am also a secret cigarette smoker so perhaps this is not surprising.

Not to Burst Your Bubble, But . . .
 

There is no such thing as "secret cigarette smoking."

When the OM falls off the wagon, I know. I sometimes choose not to mention it, but it's a little hard to hide the aroma from clothes or hands, no matter how careful you think you are being.

Match Dot Com
 

Using the FB as a dating pool could significantly reduce any perceived problems.

Or so I have heard.

not7yS

Not to Burst Your Bubble, But . . .
 

I only smoke under two circumstances. When my wife and I won't be sharing a bed that night (ie, I am out of town or she is), or when I am out at a smokey bar without her.

In the first case she doens't get the chance to smell the smokey clothes/breath, and in the second case she's always half asleep in bed when I get home and fully expects me to smell smokey.

So let me re-phrase, I am an incredibly infrequent secret cigarette smoker.

Not to Burst Your Bubble, But . . .
 

Well, you are smooth.

I thought it was funny that two of you posted about secret smoking in consecutive posts, so my comments were more generally directed toward all the secret smokers.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

My last SO knew about these boards, and he understood fully what would be discussed. He and I met through another board, so he was aware of what can happen in cyberspace.

The Bachelor
 

Does anyone think the one side in/one side out tuck job Andrew sports will catch on? I think I did that with my oversize tops in 1987, usually with stirrup pants and keds. Sometimes I would wear my socks UNDER my stirrup pants and sometimes OVER my stirrup pants. I was young and stupid and it was the '80s. What is Andrew's excuse?

I totally heart Tina Fabulous. Cocky as hell. And both my parents are from Oconomowoc.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

MY S/Os over the years have known, mainly because I'll mention something that happens and have to explain it. Not a one has really understood so they have all said that's nice dear.

I don't know about telling people I run the damned thing though.

How will I explain that one? Well honey, you see, I waste an incredible amount of time running and posting on this board...do I get paid? No, no I don't get paid?...Credit? No, no, it has to be anonymous...but I have a very famous moniker? How is it famous? Oh it has been quoted in newspapers, isn't that cool?

Why? Oh well, you know, I'm just kinda fucked up that way.

I think I'll keep it to myself.

:rolleyes:

The Bachelor
 

I missed this show and cannot remember who tina fabulous is, so i looked her up. given her bio, i would have to say she has NO chance at marriage with Mr. Firestone. can you guess why?

http://abc.abcnews.go.com/primetime/...ios/TinaP.html

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

You almost got me to check the law enforcement/prison exceptions. But not quite.

f(now STOP it!)b

The Bachelor
 

Why? The use of the word "classy"?

The Bachelor
 

Okay, that is really funny.

Thanks, Paigow.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

Sadly, I didn't need to look them up. It's a sickness that will never go away.

The Bachelor
 

I am totally missing someting here. What is the problem? Is it that I haven't watched enough of the show to know something about Andrew?

The Bachelor
 

It's a Gretzky thing. You wouldn't understand.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

No, Mr. Elk-to-be does not know. He definitely would not get it, so I'll just keep it to myself. A girl's got to have a secret or two.

The Bachelor
 

No, you got it.

She describes herself as "classy," which is a fingernails on the chalkboard thing.

I don't watch the show (shocking, I know), but that doesn't bode well for a long-term relationship. Then again, he's pimping himself on ABC supposedly looking for a bride, so I am sure he has a passing familiarity with the word.

Edited to add:

It's the underlying pretension that is the problem -- for me, anyway. My family would not automatically object to a mate who described themselves as "classy."

This discussion reminds me of a conversation MumsyOdds and I had when I was a young(er) woman. I met a young, handsome Chinese diplomat at a party. We exchanged information and, after the party, I excitedly told her all about it and him.

Her comment was one of utter shock and dismay. She sputtered: "but he's a Communist."

In my family, that was far worse than pretension.

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

My wife knows about the forums and website. It would be kind of hard for me to be secretive about it. On the other hand, she is not really familiar with the content of what's discussed on the FB. She thinks it's about fashion and other general BS, but I highly doubt she is aware of the amount of sex talk.

The Bachelor
 

You are right. I am sure Anderw is looking for a classy lady to be his heiress wife. Especially with hobbies like watching the Packers. She is classy and wellrounded and interesting. Definite marriage material for a handsome heir living the dream of working at the family estate wineries.

why is tina so fabulous?
 

Last night was my first glimpse of this incarnation of The Bachelor and so I don't know any of the personalities. All I saw was the rose ceremony, which gets more recockulous and embarrassing every time it happens.

Was Tina the first woman to whom he offered a rose? The blonde with her hair up and the bright red lipstick? If so, I thought she had kind of an ugly mouth; slightly sneery and too big for her face. She also seemed to recoil when after offering her the rose he tried to kiss her; it looked to me like she did a quick cheek turn.

What am I missing?

And the girl who cried is pathetic. WTF are these 23 year olds doing trying to get engaged? They should be out having flings.

The Bachelor
 

I would also add that her use of the word "classy" indicates a certain need to sell herself as someone who would fit in his world while simultaneously proving that she never would. Who describes themselves as classy? That's like describing yourself as handsome when it is questinable at best when you are. IT is something patently obvious that does not need to be enunciated unless you are insecure that you really arent.

Or to quote debtslave, "classy isnt".

Poll -- does your spouse/SO/ISO know about the FB?
 

Yes, he knows. Generally, he knows everything. (About all of you. I tell him about anything I think is titilating or funny.) He's met a bunch of FBers. He even let me go out on a date with a couple of them unattended!

But he doesn't really get it. The boards themselves or the secrecy. (He once annoyedly pointed out that I wasn't a CIA mole or something when I shushed him from talking about something on the boards on a packed subway.) I do call him from work occasionally to have him do research for me when I'm arguing with someone on politics, however, and he puts up with it (and often gets quite heated in his responses to particularly idiotic posts I read to him).