Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 

Don't worry. It's almost all over.

Calling you stupid makes it about me? Anyone have any other adjectives that can help me clarify how stupid she is?

TM

Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 

Apropos of nothing...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2597/...fa741d57e9.jpg

More lunchbreath here.

For the Futbol fans
 

This is a cool chart. Only Germany, Italy and England have teams whose members play at home. Everyone else is scatterd around to one degree or another.

drugs kill
 

I have to say that one week's worth of being closely involved in the drama of a friend's struggles with an addiction to prescription meds is just about enough to make me change my entire tune on the legalization of mind altering substances. Ban caffeine.

Re: For the Futbol fans
 

Even NoKo. Did not know that.

Re: drugs kill
 

vicodin

Re: For the Futbol fans
 

That surprised me as well.

Re: For the Futbol fans
 

I knew that. Someone related the story of one of the guys who plays in Japan who brought a cell phone to practice. Never been seen before by the other players. I think he and the other guy are allowed to live pretty much as Japanese citizens, but they are instructed to be very quiet about the outside world to the rest of the team.

ETA: Interesting article on him.

Re: For the Futbol fans
 

Probably generates 50% of their inward currency flows.

Interesting that all of the players for Germany, Italy, and England play on clubs in their home country.

Re: For the Futbol fans
 

I can't imagine why any of them find spots outside the DPRK. they were all much slower than the Brazilians. I can't imagine better players can't be found in SA or Europe or elsewhere in Asia.

Re: For the Futbol fans
 

Look at all the players that are in the EPL.

Did anyone notice that the entire German, Italian, and English teams play for clubs in their own countries?

Re: For the Futbol fans
 

It's like there's an echo in here.

Re: For the Futbol fans
 

It's a very distracting chart.

Re: For the Futbol fans
 

Yes. I also found it interesting. I'm not sure how it struck RT, however.

Re: drugs kill
 

I am the most vocal opponent of bedshitting in all of its nefarious forms, but even I am not on board with your last sentence. Unless you mean in pill form, in which case, um, yeah.

Re: drugs kill
 

Really? Ban caffeine in pill form? I'll preface this by saying that I have never tried caffeine in pill form, do not drink coffee, and pretty much limit my caffeine intake to a pre-workout (spin class, mountain bike race, late night DJ show) Red Bull. But if you're banning caffeine today, you're going after booze tomorrow, and you're going to have to have a word with Hank and Sebastian about that, my friends.

Re: drugs kill
 

hī-ˈpər-bə-(ˌ)lē

Re: drugs kill
 

That some become addicted is no basis on which to punish the rest of us.

Re: drugs kill
 

when I read stuff from a sock like atticus, wanting to ban substances or acts that some enjoy and want, I can't help wonder what drives em. he just strikes me as one of those closeted porn watchers, or pill poppers- my only question is what is his hidden vice, or vices. I remember a really religious kid in college who was aghast at all of our attempts to fornicate. yet I caught him one Saturday night in the stairwell of the sixth floor of my dorm and he was dropping water balloons out the window at couples on a date.

Re: drugs kill
 

I think culturally we need to be careful to distinguish between "prescription med abusers" and general recreational substance users. I like a couple Xanax or Ativan as much as the next guy, but the people who get really into pills are not drug users one can lump in with dope smokers, ecstasy fans, hallucinogen eaters or coke indulgers. Pill people aren't much fun. They're trying to stay in a certain state all the time, and it's a place most responsible recreational drug users would never, ever want to be.

One of the best arguments you'll never hear for legalizing weed is it might steer kids away from all the garbage pills they're eating these days.

Re: drugs kill
 

I know a pill I'd like to ban.

Re: drugs kill
 

would you want your kid to smoke dope the moment he wakes and stay stoned all day? or be drunk by 10 AM and stay that way until passing out? it's a question of how much time one spends on the drugs- but prescription pills are spread across the day, so even using them properly sets you up to be under their influence all day long.

Re: drugs kill
 

????????

• 55. Seer Gilligan
  Gilligan can read minds thanks to some seeds he discovered on the island.
  All the Castaways eat the seeds and read each other's thoughts, which results
  in disaster as honesty takes over.
  Directed by Leslie Goodwins

Re: drugs kill
 

This is just another variation of your "my drugs are better than your drugs" argument. I understand the superficial appeal (people on LSD just want to spin around and look at the lights and think about things, I mean really really think about things, whereas those meth-head tweakers are killers . . . KILLERS!), but I am not sure the distinctions are as clean as you would like to make them. That said, when the battle lines are drawn, I'll be there in the trenches with you, my brother, packing the hookah with our super-sticky trench weed and readying myself for a very mellow battle.

Re: drugs kill
 

Indeed, you could be married to a NY real estate baroness and part-time actress with an IMDB page.

Re: drugs kill
 

Sebastian does not have enough information to respond. Does the kid in this hypo share with his dad? Does he have the hydro, or is he smoking ditch weed?

Re: drugs kill
 

Smoke dope all day. I know a few people who are very functional when high. One is a carpenter. His work is better when he's high.

Re: drugs kill
 

I have never in my life felt as good as that first shot of demerol when I was in the ER last year. It felt like liquid euphoria running through my veins. And the good people at the hospital were kind enough to give me more when I asked for it. I wasn't particularly interested, as I started to feel better, of staying on the pain medication that they sent me home with, but I can understand how someone could get hooked on that stuff. Especially if you could rationalize some sort of chronic pain or other "legitimate" reason for staying on it.

And, er, some of us simply have oooh shiney! personalities. There's nothing wrong with spinning and lights and sparkles.

Re: drugs kill
 

Um, no, never even a thought. I did much better.

My concern with the baroness is her fb friending of my sister. This is worrisome. Those worlds should not collide.

Re: drugs kill
 

no it's not. Cocteau was Cocteau before he took smack.

Re: drugs kill
 

pillnyc

Re: drugs kill
 

I had a bad mountain bike crash last summer and the folks in the ER were practically pushing Vicodin on me. I refused it in the ER and (Sebastian -- stop reading now) never filled my prescription, but I know that I would have just loved the stuff. You don't really need to rationalize a reason for staying on it. My wife's co-worker -- a nice, smart, mild-mannered, 60-ish woman -- became hooked after a surgery by taking less than the recommended dosage and had just an abysmal lost week of her life getting off the stuff.

Re: drugs kill
 

Depends how you read the "or." If it's an available option, I was likely to go with "Neither." If a one-or-the-other choice, Door #1.

Is there ditch weed anymore? Everything's a microbrew in that world today. Not complaining in the least, but I don't think anyone but people in actual ditches even have access to ditch weed anymore.

Re: drugs kill
 

Fair point about ditch weed. But what if he had access to something really special? One of my college roommates spent a couple of summers working at MIT, and one of the scientists there who knew quite a bit about biology (as he was a biologist of some sort) had a hobby of cross-pollinating cannabis plants to create finer and stronger strains. He gave a bunch of seeds to my roommate, who (in his particular OCD way) set about to create the perfect dormroom closet mini-hydroponic set up with grow lights, etc. (This was the year before he and I and a bunch of others lived together.) Anyhoo, the fruits of his efforts were nothing short of spectacular. So, suppose in Hank's hypothetical, your son has access to the product of this mad MIT scientist's uber-weed. Does that change your answer?

Re: drugs kill
 

my plan has been to become an opium addict when i hit 80, but maybe pills will be easier to get?

Re: drugs kill
 

Let me know if you need help. I can tell you the sorts of injuries that will have them practically begging you to take Vicodin.

Re: drugs kill
 

I've no issue with any child developing a green thumb. And I think it only responsible parenting to encourage him in whatever enlightening hobbies he chooses.

Additionally, I assume by then, if things keep going as they are, it will be a business, and I can expand the home office deduction twicefold.

Re: drugs kill
 

The "or" should be an "and," but otherwise you've just described my annual beach weekend with my high school friends.

Re: drugs kill
 

The only time I ever did demerol was in the mid 1980s, when I did it recreationally.

I remembered a few minutes in, I turned to this rather pretty blonde who was a friend of a friend and the next thing I know, the night turned into an all night fuck a thon.

That's if you consider trying to shove a limp dick into a dry putty (sort of like feeling for a light switch in the dark, then realizing it's on the other side) fucking.

Ireland Again
 

Just to try to makes things a bit more about me, here is my thinking about my planned Irish excursion. At the moment, there isn't really any reason not to make it a rather long trip, in particular because I can be quite flexible on flights due to familial pilot relationships.

I am in particular interested in specific recommendations of any lesser-known spots that are worth a visit (be that towns, sites, pubs or restaurants).

I was in Ireland once before while in college. That trip, however, was limited to sleeping on the floor of my friend's (who was there for a semester) flat near the St. James Gate Brewery, which happened to be the worst flat I have set foot in, taking buses to Galway and Belfast, and a minibus tour of the Connemara. I've already forgotten Ironweed's tips on football kit, but as I haven't got any I'll just try to remember that Shankill is unionist and the Falls ism Republican. Having read more than my fair share of books on the Troubles, that shouldn't be too hard.

This time my intent is to rent (the smallest and cheapest) available car for a few weeks and try to cover some of the more out of the way places. A few questions in particular:

1. Is there a strong reason to go to Waterford? I was planning to bypass it while more or less moving around most of the island's coast.

2. Am I crazy to skip the Ring of Kerry? I'm planning to spend some time exploring the peninsula's of Cork (one of my ancestral homelands) and the Dingle Peninsula (along with Sligo and Donegal), so I think I might have it covered and what I have read suggested that the Ring of Kerry may be over infested with tourists anyway.

3. I am also planning to skip Limerick. Any reason not to do so?

4. Anyone have any coastal island recommendations? At the moment I'm not sure any seem worthwhile, but if anyone thinks, e.g., that the Arran Islands are unmissable, I may reconsider.