Look at me, I'm a size Zero! And a size 10!
 

For me, I need the larger size tops in part because of the boobs but mostly because I have broad shoulders and a large rib cage (apparently, given that every bridesmaids dress I have ever tried on had to be taken out in the rib cage and boobs and pulled in at the waist). My jackets tend to need to be ordered larger to accomodate my bone structure.

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! And a size 10!
 

Yay, she finally arrived. Fashionably late of course. Maybe she can asnwer the question about how sizes convert- from 29 to 8? 30 to 10? And whether Lucky jeans dont run big- ie a Lucky 8 is an 8 and not a 10

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I size 10 skirt? That is scary. What, so you have a breast to hip ratio of .8 to .7?

Just(I'm a size 2 AND I got straight A's in math)ForFun

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! And a size 10!
 

The same thing might be said about my pants. :p

spooky(never one to bypass the cheap joke)fish

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I give up. You're a knucklehead.

Name one big female star today with perfect measurements who wasn't considered at one point to be a flash-in-the-pan, talent-impaired starlet.

Now you'll say, but Marilyn would be considered such and fat. And I'll say, wrong. If she had to break in as super small, she might have. But she would become an icon because of who she was and would be able to get away with carrying more weight because of her voice, beauty and sex-appeal.

Thurgreed(enough)Marshall

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! And a size 10!
 

Too bad. According to that aforementioned poll of American men, you need to be force fed.

Thurgreeds Deep Thoughts
 

Please, MM would have posed for Playboy, which she did, banged Hugh Hefner and a few chicks at the Playboy Mansion for awhile, taken a few roles in B movies, gotten into heroin and then got her own E True Hollywood Story followed by her own E reality show. And we would all comment on how pretty she used to be and how fat she got.

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! Who needs clothes?
 

I think part of the reason men are still obsessed with Marilyn is that she oozed vulnerability as well as sexuality. That's an unusual combination that cannot be imitated, and certainly can't be pulled off on screen by a woman with rock hard abs and angular features. A man might want to wrestle with Jennifer Garner, but being with a woman who can kick your ass does not have the same fundamental appeal as being with a sex goddess who also seems to need you to take care of her.

And I'm not making any generalizations about what men are looking for in women or any crap like that. I'm talking about Marilyn as an icon.
Sadly, the vulnerability that helped make Marilyn a star and an icon of a particular kind of femininity also made it impossible for her to survive in Hollywood. The fact that celebrity chewed her up is also part of her lasting appeal.

Bad Moon Rising
 

But now who's gonna play with Gogogowolf?

not7y(about time you got your cute ass over here)S

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TM, I think you're utterly discounting the impact "live fast, die young and leave a good-looking-corpse" has on icon-hood. Would anyone give a crap about Diana 30 years from now if she hadn't been a tragic short-lived beauty, instead of just another princess humiliated by her wussy royal husband and his horse-faced mistress? Or James Dean, if he'd lived to be a dessicated old drunk? Would you lionize Marilyn so much if she'd lived, like fellow celebrated beauty Jane Russell, to be an old, wrinkly bra spokeswoman?

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! Who needs clothes?
 

Which just goes to show you how much men like breast implants.

Feast (no pun intended) your eyes on this, boys!
http://www.happywomanmagazine.com/Im...oleSmithB9.jpg

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! Who needs clothes?
 

You know, it IS possible to overgeneralize in this area . . .

(We don't ALL want wimply breathless little thangs fainting and cooing around us. Give me a kickboxer any day . . . )

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! Who needs clothes?
 

So let me get this straight. You're saying there is a place for voluptious women in today's entertainment industry and a market that is currently being filled by...Marilyn? Yet Marilyn wouldn't be a star today?

I'm not saying she would be as big a star as she was. But she would be popular. I'm not going to argue it anymore.

Yeah. I remember never seeing Anna Nicole Smith on any magazine covers at the height of her fame.

What the fuck are you saying? I'm not saying she would totally revamp today's beauty ideal, assjack. I'm saying there would be a place for her.

TM

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! Who needs clothes?
 

Yikes. Is that you JFF? I thought you said you were hot?

Look at me, I'm a size Zero! Who needs clothes?
 

Bilmore, you did read my whole post, didn't you? I clearly stated that I did not intend to generalize. "Fundamental appeal" was not meant to imply "universal appeal."

r(not wimpy, not breathless, growls rather than coos, but kickboxer? no.)p