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Hank Chinaski 04-12-2020 02:40 PM

Re: Spiraling effect
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 528011)
We’re in near total closure. Nothing’s being heard until May. All statutes of limitations in civil matters this month are extended into May.

Getting a deed filed is a fucking chore.

But this place is a shitho— er, I mean, commonwealth. That means each county is its own little fiefdom. Courts may operate more normally in states where the courts are more unified.

Patent Office has sort of relaxed due dates EXCEPT response dates are statutory, and I do not think it can relax a date set by Congress. Al least that is what I'm telling clients- "sure it might be okay, it might also kill your patent in some lawsuit in 10 years."

sebastian_dangerfield 04-12-2020 03:53 PM

Re: Spiraling effect
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 528012)
Patent Office has sort of relaxed due dates EXCEPT response dates are statutory, and I do not think it can relax a date set by Congress. Al least that is what I'm telling clients- "sure it might be okay, it might also kill your patent in some lawsuit in 10 years."

Actually, I have to correct myself. All times for reply are extended. Stat of Lims was adjusted to allow that if court doesn’t docket a suit within time because it’s closed, you can submit directly to superior court.

Any response due this month is not due until May 1 at earliest.

Odd question: How can a state put moratorium on filing of ejectment, eviction, or foreclosure? In 2008, they allowed filings, but then placed cases into mandatory immediate mediation. My understanding is in some states, including NY, if you try to efile an eviction, ejectment, or foreclosure, the software won’t allow it. If that’s true, how is that not unconstitutional?

Replaced_Texan 04-12-2020 04:14 PM

Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 528004)
I will bet you $10,000 that there is airborne transmission of this, just like those other "similar" viruses. The only thing weak here is your position. And, just so I don't take advantage of you, please note this - https://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...-effective.htm .

Airborne is a very technical term, so be clear about your definition before throwing out bets. Measles is the classic example of an agent that is considered airborne, and the transmission can occur hours later in the air. The bug doesn't break down very fast. Coronaviruses historically have not been considered to be airborne. Short-range aerosol transmission is likely, but that's not really airborne as we generally talk about the term. It's likely that droplets don't fall immediately, but as of yet there's no evidence that they're floating for hours afterwards like measles, chickenpox and TB.

More here.

Replaced_Texan 04-12-2020 04:22 PM

Re: Spiraling effect
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 528009)
Also, as the people outside HC and insurance who think they’re going continue working right through this start losing jobs, things will clarify. Wait for the white collar layoffs to really take hold. Then the panic will set in and you’ll see the market go insane. Lots of folks are still in the denial phase of the five stages of grief.

HC is weird right now. Some of us are crazy busy (*waves*) but a lot are sitting at home with nothing to do because their clinics are closed to all but telemedicine and the absolute essentials. And billing is obviously way down. We are projecting a super busy June and July, because even if this thing isn't under control by then, people aren't going to be able to hold off care for tooo long. So we're trying to use this downtime (for the non-busy) to work on infrastructure projects that we never have time to do. My practice is upgrading it's EMR with a go-live date of May 2021. We're doubling the implementation meetings for April and May because we know we're going to have a lopsided summer.

We aren't looking at layoffs, but some places are. Which is insane given that HC is the heart and soul of this thing.

Icky Thump 04-12-2020 06:37 PM

Re: Spiraling effect
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 528011)
We’re in near total closure. Nothing’s being heard until May. All statutes of limitations in civil matters this month are extended into May.

Getting a deed filed is a fucking chore.

But this place is a shitho— er, I mean, commonwealth. That means each county is its own little fiefdom. Courts may operate more normally in states where the courts are more unified.

We are open. Our judge has heard and denied emergency motions to stay virtual depositions of dying people because the defendants are insisting on in person depositions. So he may open the courts virtually just to despite defendants.

sebastian_dangerfield 04-12-2020 08:04 PM

Re: Spiraling effect
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 528015)
HC is weird right now. Some of us are crazy busy (*waves*) but a lot are sitting at home with nothing to do because their clinics are closed to all but telemedicine and the absolute essentials. And billing is obviously way down. We are projecting a super busy June and July, because even if this thing isn't under control by then, people aren't going to be able to hold off care for tooo long. So we're trying to use this downtime (for the non-busy) to work on infrastructure projects that we never have time to do. My practice is upgrading it's EMR with a go-live date of May 2021. We're doubling the implementation meetings for April and May because we know we're going to have a lopsided summer.

We aren't looking at layoffs, but some places are. Which is insane given that HC is the heart and soul of this thing.

They’re furloughing docs and nurses and pas in nonessential areas in various parts of this state.

It’s nuts. I know of highly paid admin in these systems who aren’t essential who aren’t getting furloughed or even had their pay cut. But actual medical professional are. Seems bizarre.

Tyrone Slothrop 04-12-2020 09:09 PM

Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 527986)
So current word? I watched a video from a NYC ER doc trying to give his family and friends sort of words of wisdom and comfort- it was from 3 weeks ago- he said the odds of breathing it in are almost nil, and the only time he worries if when he performs a procedure that basically forces someone to cough. He said wash hands, don't touch nose or mouth and you will be safe.

Has this changed? I get the bad luck of being next to someone contagious who coughs, but other than that is the doc's advice old?

I think the current thinking is that risks of airborne transmission are higher than that.

eta: stp

Tyrone Slothrop 04-12-2020 09:45 PM

Re: Spiraling effect
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 528017)
They’re furloughing docs and nurses and pas in nonessential areas in various parts of this state.

It’s nuts. I know of highly paid admin in these systems who aren’t essential who aren’t getting furloughed or even had their pay cut. But actual medical professional are. Seems bizarre.

It's because hospitals are canceling elective surgeries to (a) make room for Covid-19 patients, and (b) reduce the risk that other patients will infect people. There are a lot of actual medical professionals who have skills that are specialized and not hugely useful in the current crisis.

Also, administrations are very good at protecting administrators. It's what they do.

sebastian_dangerfield 04-12-2020 11:50 PM

Re: Spiraling effect
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 528019)
It's because hospitals are canceling elective surgeries to (a) make room for Covid-19 patients, and (b) reduce the risk that other patients will infect people. There are a lot of actual medical professionals who have skills that are specialized and not hugely useful in the current crisis.

Also, administrations are very good at protecting administrators. It's what they do.

If the docs and nurses working on Covid patients should be overwhelmed, the furloughed docs and nurses will be called up to do so.

They don’t deserve to be paid while waiting to potentially be thrown into risk of serious physical harm?

But admin still gets paid? WTF?

Replaced_Texan 04-13-2020 12:36 AM

Re: Spiraling effect
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 528019)
Also, administrations are very good at protecting administrators. It's what they do.

*ahem*

LessinSF 04-13-2020 03:38 AM

Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 528014)
Airborne is a very technical term, so be clear about your definition before throwing out bets. Measles is the classic example of an agent that is considered airborne, and the transmission can occur hours later in the air. The bug doesn't break down very fast. Coronaviruses historically have not been considered to be airborne. Short-range aerosol transmission is likely, but that's not really airborne as we generally talk about the term. It's likely that droplets don't fall immediately, but as of yet there's no evidence that they're floating for hours afterwards like measles, chickenpox and TB.

More here.

I was going to suggest that you hold our money in escrow and decide, after a suitable period for study (say 12 months), who wins. But Adder is a pussy.

LessinSF 04-13-2020 05:00 AM

Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
[QUOTE=LessinSF;528022]I was going to suggest that you hold our money in escrow and decide, after a suitable period for study (say 12 months), who wins. But Adder is a pussy.

Edit - I was also going to suggest that you receive 5% ($1,000) as your escrow and evaluator and decisionmaker fee. But Adder is still a pussy. [/QUOTE}

Icky Thump 04-13-2020 08:18 AM

Hmm,
 
wondering if Fauci would consider a Maximus before he gets fired

sebastian_dangerfield 04-13-2020 01:23 PM

Re: Hmm,
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 528024)
wondering if Fauci would consider a Maximus before he gets fired

If I gave you a revolver with 100 chambers, 2 of which had bullets in them, would you play Russian Roulette to get some semblance of a life back?

I think this is the question a lot of people are going to be asking themselves over the next few weeks.

When I hear this stuff about everything staying shut until next year, I think, okay, the science makes a point. But it's also insanely unrealistic and totally ignores human nature.

That. Is. Simply. Not. Going. To. Happen.

"Burning down the house to smoke out the mouse" is the apt saying I believe.

Tyrone Slothrop 04-13-2020 01:25 PM

Re: Spiraling effect
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 528020)
If the docs and nurses working on Covid patients should be overwhelmed, the furloughed docs and nurses will be called up to do so.

They don’t deserve to be paid while waiting to potentially be thrown into risk of serious physical harm?

But admin still gets paid? WTF?

Doctors and nurses are not commodities. They have skills that aren't necessarily useful in this crisis.

And I wasn't defending that fact that administrators preserve themselves, I was just saying it's what they do.


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