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Why is it odious to say that a lot of Republicans have never made an honest living in their lives?

But Our Guy's Lies Weren't Under Oath
 

2. And I can relate. I lie all the time too, just not before Federal judges or otherwise under oath. It's shocking that lawyers defend this behaviour, especially otherwise good citizens like Ty and Sidd and Wonk. Was Clinton sharing his women with these guys? Sloppy seconds?

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Who is defending Clinton's lying here? We just think lying about a blow job is less significant than lying to get the country to go to war.

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The issue, Spanky, as framed by Steve, was character. Not perjury. If you only measure character by whether or not a statement was perjury, that says much about character.

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?!?!. You can't be serious. What Democrat would have been better? I would have preferred a Republican but as a Democrat he was a hell of lot better than Jimmy. He didn't drastically cut the military, he signed welfare reform, he saved Kosovo, he pushed through NAFTA and the WTO. Without the DLC, which Clinton headed, the Democrats would be more of a nightmare than it already is.

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I think we get the difference.

The question isn't the relative legality. The question is, Is lying under oath about a personal sexual matter between two consenting adults a greater wrong, a more serious matter, rising to the level of an impeachable offense, than lying about the presence of WMDs in Iraq to ensure public support needed to pursue a war?

Republicans say yes. Democrats say no.

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The blow job and "lying about sex" is a red herring. It is the difference between lying and lying under oath.

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What was he afraid of, he might take a foreign policy action as a leader, a Commander in Chief, for our national to defense, and the Republicans would get so upset they would impeach him?


I'm starting to think you must be getting a commission. Assuming Clinton was listening to this guy, how did the 911 terrorists get in and out of the US in the years before Bush? Clearly Clarke was not fully on top of their game.

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I like a lot of his policies; I have ambivalent feelings about the man. He had huge potential, much of which he squandered. E.g., by failing to keep his pants on.

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I don't think he was afraid of anything. But if you think that Clinton could have unilaterally decided to invade Afghanistan, you are in la-la land. For one, the military didn't want to do it.

The Bush Administration never caught the anthrax dude, not for lack of trying.

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For Spanky, I would edit this if I could as follows:

We just think lying under oath about a blow job is less significant than lying in the absence of an oath to get the country to go to war.

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I just wish it were true about me.

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If you mean divisive and partisan, perhaps the I hate Republicans line or the Republicans have never done an honest day's work line. Or do you think that saying you hate someone is polite form of conversation?

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You and me both.

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I lost track of all the post hoc justifications. I was satisfied with the justification that Hussein was horrible and deserved to be ousted. That, and that it was reasonable to believe WMDs were there based solely on Hussein's continued cat-and-mouse game with the UN inspectors.