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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 371099)

Check out Oregon--the only state were Obama did better among white folk than overall.

What race are the racists?

Re: All I ask, don't tell anybody the secrets I told you.

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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 371036)

I plan to lie.)

I would rely on the "not readily available" limitation--there's no search function.

Re: Election Eve Fire

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 371064)

*I was going to wish death on him, but I guess I just hope he retires tomorrow, to live an unhappy and isolated life.

Isn't that what he is now, in his current job?

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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 371101)

What race are the racists?

The Blazers voting economic self-interest? Or is there a Little Havana in Bend?

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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 371100)

Not willing to strike Louisiana off your list though?

I gotta go to New Orleans at some point. That's about it, though.

TM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 371105)

I gotta go to New Orleans at some point. That's about it, though.

TM

The town on True Blood looks sort of fun, in an vampirically erotic way. If you go for that sort of thing. nttawwt.

Caption, please.

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_s...idenCheney.JPG

As Mrs. Cheney points out to Mrs. Biden the features of the retractable staircase descending to the Undisclosed Location(R), Mr. Cheney provides to Mr. Biden friendly warnings about the location of the 4 spring guns positioned on the property.

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 371096)

...remind me never to go to Alabama or Mississippi.

http://www.slate.com/id/2204464/sidebar/2204528/

TM

Great graph. And it showed exactly what I feared. I really wanted McCain to win but by every rule in the book Obama should have blown McCain out of the water. The economy crashing, the incumbent president with record low approval ratings, high gas prices, and unpopular war - McCain shouldn't have won a state.

I would like to think that people saw through Obama's B.S. to see the true inexperienced liberal behind the facade but I don't think that is what happened. Until this election people have always voted their pocket books and blamed the current party holding the White House for everything that is wrong (or they perceive as wrong) in the country. But I am afraid the reason Obama won by so little is not because they saw through his facade, they couldn't see past his skin color. He is an articulate guy, a great speaker and he ran a great campaign. The only reason I can see that he won by so little is that many people just wouldn't vote for an African American. :(

I thought Powell could have beaten Gore in 2000. Now I am not so sure. Its seems it took a financial disaster to get an African American in the White House.

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Originally Posted by Spanky (Post 371165)

Great graph. And it showed exactly what I feared. I really wanted McCain to win but by every rule in the book Obama should have blown McCain out of the water.

Um. He did.

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McCain shouldn't have won a state.

I don't buy that. The country is far too divided, and divided geographically, for that to happen. Some of it is obviously race, but it isn't race alone that keep Obama from a clean sweep. The culture war is still a big factor.

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Until this election people have always voted their pocket books and blamed the current party holding the White House for everything that is wrong (or they perceive as wrong) in the country.

Did you miss 2004?

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 371172)

Um. He did [blow McCain out of the water].

Not really. Not in a historic sense:

http://www.redstate.com/static/redst...ialMargins.png

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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 371175)

Not really. Not in a historic sense:

http://www.redstate.com/static/redst...ialMargins.png

As I said, in this environment, where a disturbing fraction of the country think that what matters is keeping gay people from burdening themselves with marriage, it was a pretty big win. Bigger by far than the last two margins of victory, and bigger than Carter, Nixon the first time, Kennedy, Truman the first time, Wilson the second time, and McKinley.

He "should" have won bigger, and I think part of why he didn't was race, but part of it is the divided environment that has prevailed since roughly 1994.

ETA: Looking at it the other way, the bigger wins were Roosevelt (all in extraordinary circumstances), Eisenhower (centrist war hero), Johnson (extraordinary circumstances), and the Reagan revolution (two very weak opponents), Bush I (perhaps the weakest opponent).

Harding, Coolidge, Hoover and Nixon's reelection are the harder ones to explain.

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 371177)

a disturbing fraction of the country think that what matters is keeping gay people from burdening themselves with marriage,

do you mean California or Michigan? or are you just not grasping what has actually happened in the last few elections on this issue?

Re: Change I Can Believe In

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 370674)

I don't know what's appropriate in the current situation.

I can't help thinking about who would enjoy your post as much as anyone.

We get to know each other here, people post looks inside themselves that go beyond what they would say to someone they barely know at school or work*. Some people fake stuff, but i think i see that. I don't think she fakes stuff.

Today I was really feeling down about her injuries, but also realizing that I'm not really part of any people's lives here (I've spoken about outside things with 2 socks, but never met anyone). So there is this frustration from being worried about someone I feel I really know, but realizing I don't know her. Not sure if I articulated that well, but I was really bummed.

I work in a downtown area with streets that have pedestrian crosswalks and "stop for peds" signs.

I've always been a bit belligerent about the crosswalks, like I'll walk out in front of cars that seem like they might not be planning on stopping (only if they are far enough away that I can dodge if they don't stop.)
But today I was ultra- radical.

Walking to lunch I hit two cars with my hand when I could see the drivers were making turns w/o thinking about peds. I've thought about doing that in the past, but hadn't. Both drivers looked up shocked at me and i pointed at the ped signs. Both were old ladies.

Going home from work I was starting to cross a road (15 mile- hi eminem!)
when a car turned, and would have hit me if i'd trusted the light. I hit the side of his car.

He stopped and got out. A big guy, in a beat up car. He snarled at me, "what was that?"

I glared back and said, "I thought you were in a hurry?"

The guy left, but I think i almost got my ass kicked. I need to forget this new extreme behavior I guess.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2083/...e2b0cb0583.jpg

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 371178)

do you mean California or Michigan? or are you just not grasping what has actually happened in the last few elections on this issue?

If you have a point, feel free to state it. Personally, I don't think you are sufficiently stupid to be saying that opposition to gay marriage is not emblematic of the culture wars in the Bible belt, so you must be saying something deep and insightful that is beyond me.

Re: Change I Can Believe In

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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 371179)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2083/...e2b0cb0583.jpg

that's a poppy right? opium will calm me?

BTW you got 11 posts in a row on FB. get your ass back there. you'll blow penske out of the water forever if you can get five or six more in.