Full, round, artificial breasts
 

In Argentina, the government pays for plastic surgery because job applicants are required to submit their pictures with their resumes. It is a very image-concious society. It is also a society with a disportionate amount of thin women with perfect TITS!

Grrr
 

This is a funny example of how information in posts can surprise you. Because of your avatar I have always pictured you to be about 2 feet tall.

Presumptive Assholes
 

I read it. Don't presume to speak for me. But thanks for playing.

Why Long Island should be nuked
 

You called him an asshole for generalizing. By saying asshole I figured you didnt care for his post to the point of having to call him a name. I threw in "morally" so as to make a statement about political correctness in greater society today. Added a link on the logic chain. You caught me. So I guess drawing conclusions from observations is just reprehensible to you.

Firm But Fake
 

Oddly the guy in the cartoon seems to resemble Tucker Max.

Extreme Makeover
 

I've seen it once. I was sickened and horrified within two minutes. Thirty minutes later, I didn't feel any better.

The show is truly a car-wreck phenom, once you see it you have to keep looking.

Presumptive Assholes
 

Nope. I have no problem with the fact you have a problem with breast implants. Nor that you feel that they indicate problems with our society. In fact, I generally have a problem with breast implants and agree, they often, but not always, indicate problems with our society.

I do however have a problem with how you chose to characterize the majority of women who get them. Strippers and prostitutes? I don't know about you, but if I had a mom who had breast cancer and she got breast implants to make herself feel better after she had to have a breast removed, I'd be pretty damned offended at that characterization. And of course you didn't mean women like that should be compared to strippers and prostitutes. TM was absolutely right, the problem isn't your opinion, it is the extremes in which you speak/spoke when expressing it.

And right back at ya.

Firm But Fake
 

My god you're right.

And I will never teach my son or hypothetical daughter that "you are who you date." Give me a fucking break.


Sidd(if it were true, I'd be a lot nicer, and better looking)Finch

Extreme Makeover
 

I don't watch it in the sense that I have any idea when it's on, but if I run across it I tend to watch. It's, uh, weird when someone does the extreme makeover just before a major life event (e.g., the chick who did it before she got married and her husband-to-be didn't see the new her until the wedding).

Your Daily Jolie
 

Either Bjork now looks an awful lot like Angelina, or you posted the wrong link.

Full, round, artificial breasts
 

Define "obsessed with their bodies", At what point does a desire to have large tits become a body obsession? Is it when you buy wonderbras? Is it when you work out every day of the weeK? Is it when you are willing to spend big money (that you may or may not have), take health risks, and assume the responsibility of multiple surgeries down the road for a set of Bs or EEEs? Or is it something further than that? At what point does a healthy sense of ego turn into disportionate time, money, risk taking and/or narcissism?

Full, round, artificial breasts
 

Disproportionate to what? Don't be a playa-odiadero.

Firm But Fake
 

In the immortal words of TM, Whiff.

Why Long Island should be nuked
 

The women in the Mr.'s family are all amazons - 5'10", 6'. His sister (5'10") played semi-professional rugby, and still looks like she could rip a bull in half. But his mum, 5'11", weighed 120 when she got married. The men are even worse - one of his grandfathers was the family runt at 6'7" - all of his brothers and his father were 7'. This was pre WWI.

My family is little. When the Mr. visits them, he always comments on being in Munchkin land among the wee folk. My sister is about an inch shorter than me and weighs about 15 pounds more, but is a size 16 (all over). She's got small bones - she looks overweight the instant she gets over 105. I've got bigger bones and look decent right up to about 135.

Anyhow, tall people can carry around shitloads of extra weight without anyone particularly noticing - though it doesn't mean they aren't overweight. Tall people should not, generally, have the same proportions as short people - i.e.: just because a person has a couple extra inches in height doesn't mean they should have a proportionally bigger waist or butt.

However, I think the BMI calculations are really stacked against tall people. My short, size 16, slug-a-bed sister is middling-overweight, not even obese. My tall, fit, athletic Mr. with his 10 inch drop waist has almost exactly the same BMI.

Presumptive Assholes
 

Relax. I think he made it pretty clear that he was just talking from personal experience.

Presumptive Assholes
 

I think that's the only sample he had.

Your Daily Jolie
 

Sorry. Apparently you are the only curious onlooker. Please push next two or three times from the Angelina page to see Bjork. Thank you.

Why Long Island should be nuked
 

Didn't use the word reprehensible either.

Presumptive Assholes
 

I'm in basic agreement with mmm on this issue. I've had to have surgery, and to me it just seems astonishing to be willing to undergo it voluntarily without some underlying medical problem. It has risks. People have died from complications from lipo. Was it worth it just so they could be cremated with a smaller ass?

I'm not saying every woman who has cosmetic plastic surgery is a self-hating misogynist. I am saying that it's no coincidence that 85% of the people getting it are still women.

Your Daily Jolie
 

Fearing that this was the case, I was reluctant to even mention it. But I spoke up out of a sense of brother- and sister-hood with all of the silent, electronic, Bjork-curious lurkers out there.

Presumptive Assholes
 

Can anyone speak in general terms anymore w/out someone pointing out the obvious exception(s)?

My answer: not on a board composed of lawyers.

I'm pro TITS, but I think the majority of breast enlargement procedures are the equivalent of the dorky guy buying a Porsche...

Why Long Island should be nuked
 

Originally posted by paigowprincess
You called him an asshole for generalizing. By saying asshole I figured you didnt care for his post to the point of having to call him a name. I threw in "morally" so as to make a statement about political correctness in greater society today. Added a link on the logic chain. You caught me. So I guess drawing conclusions from observations is just reprehensible to you.

Did not know I had to spell out that you thought his post was reprehensible to you bc it triggered you to respond by vitriolic namecalling. I thought the inference was clear. Guess not.

Presumptive Assholes
 

One of the 9 million articles that I have posted in the past stated that it was fast approaching 50% for men and cosmetic surgery.

I would cite, but that would cause the piling onning.

Presumptive Assholes
 

No, it wouldn't. It might, in fact, help move your posts into the "mundane but helpful" category. You know, like fringey's.

Presumptive Assholes
 

Feel free to link this.

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle...7&section=news

(spree: The Iceman grabs shark by the tail, drags it to shore, to save crew)

Your Daily Jolie
 

Curiosity killed the cat. Or whatever it was that this was made out of.

http://cache.eonline.com/Gossip/Fash...ork.102003.jpg

I feel strange unease while looking at this picture, but I guess that was the point.

Presumptive Assholes
 

I think the statistics vary widely on this from study to study so perhaps there's no way to be sure. But anecdotally, I've never seen a high school boy with black eyes and tape on his nose unless he's been in a fist-fight. And I see a lot more women who suddenly look 'younger', 'rested', and 'like they've been really exercising' after a week of being 'out with the flu' than men.

Your Daily Jolie
 

Aside from the jewels pasted on her face, I kind of like the outfit.

Presumptive Assholes
 

Luckily Jerry Jones is trying to single-handedly revise this ratio. While at the same time prompting us all to wonder exactly which planet he calls home.

Why Long Island should be nuked
 

Oh I get what you are saying, you didn't need to spell it out. The problem is you are just reading too much into my post.

And I will now ask everyone's forgiveness for what is going to be an incredibly boring post.




Ok, so if you are looking, you are interested in a very boring post. Here we go.

What did leagleaze mean when she called mmmmmmmmmm a presumptive asshole?


Presumptive:

He was presumptive, that one is easy. Regardless of whether we agree to the appropriateness of the presumption or not, we can all agree he made a presumptive statement, right?

Asshole:

I was playing on him calling himself a name, e.g. paternalistic. Normally I just would have told him he was presumptive and left out the asshole. You are right, I don't normally call people names, and so it would make sense you thought I meant something more serious, alas, I didn't. I don't really think he is an asshole, nor did I find what he said particularly reprehensible or horrible.

I wish it had some deeper meaning, but it really doesn't.

Presumptive Assholes
 

As one of those woman seriously considering cosmetic surgery, I can tell you that it has very little to do with self-hatred or misogyny.

For me, there's something about my body I don't really like. I've always felt like that thing was just out of proportion and uncomfortable. As a result of that thing, I can't wear certain clothes, do certain activities, etc.

As a result, I'd like to change the thing. And I can. And I guess I will, not as an act of self-hatred, but as an act of self-love.

So, you see...cosmetic surgery is just really expensive masturbation!

Why Long Island should be nuked
 

What leagleaze meant is presumptuous
not presumptive

Unless you were predicting mmm would likely become an asshole one day, even tomorrow. Although I suppose the comments suggest it is likely mmmm already is an asshole.

Carry on.

Presumptive Assholes
 

oh, the slip. seems like there is a sock out there to cover off on this one. Penske?

Presumptive Assholes
 

May I suggest a breasticle day III in which anyone posts their body part they would most like to have changed, and the FB votes yay or nay?

Presumptive Assholes
 

Phsically uncomfortable? Like oversized boobs? Thats a physical iproblem as mucha s cosmetic.

Friendster (redux)
 

Since someone asked about it yesterday, and I woke up early this morning and didn't feel like doing anything serious, I finally created a profile on Friendster. I didn't have time to do much else, but with links to 2 friends who invited me to join, I am already Friendsters with more than 10,000 hip kids. I think it's going to take a while to digest all the koolness but will post again if I find anything interesting.

Why Long Island should be nuked
 

This, of course, returns us to an earlier theme of the day. Sheesh, Friggen (friggin?) Timmies.


And for those amongst us who are uncertain what I mean when I say friggen (friggin) timmies. What I mean is, God, I hate people who elevate form over substance.

But really, since hate is a strong word, I should say, I don't really mean I hate them. I mean I think it is kind of silly, on rare occasion amusing, but most often not. In this case, it was pretty amusing.

Ok?

Ok.

Presumptive Assholes
 

No. Because you all are irritating me.

:P

Why Long Island should be nuked
 

I'm laughing (seriously).

Why Long Island should be nuked
 

As we were talking about fake boobs, this seems Apropos.