The gravity of Clinton's lies.
 

I am going to beat T-Rex to the punch - do you know why?

The gravity of Clinton's lies.
 

I didn't say it justified perjury, did I?

They went after her because they thought she did something else. And I didn't say that no one gets prosecuted. I said that had he not been President, no prosecutor would have done what Starr did, and no plaintiff's lawyer would have touched the case.

If you go into politics now, you assume many more risks than you did before the rise of the modern conservative movement. But I agree that Clinton did something stupid.

In my life, I aspire to do more than simply abide by the letter of the law.

The gravity of Clinton's lies.
 

I'll take your word for it, but why?

Law suits and the President
 

Sorry T-Rex - I just don't agree with you. If a President can't be indicted why can he be sued? Presidents should be immune from lawsuits while they are in office. People can wait until they get out to sue them. When the Supreme Court said that the presidency was like any other job that was just insane. I don't want the man with his finger on the button worried about law suits. And obviously, the potential for political abuse is massive.

The other thing I don't get is why Whitewater had a special prosecutor. It happened before Clinton was in the White House so why did it need a special prosecutor?

Law suits and the President
 

Clinton asked Reno to appoint one. She did - Fiske.

The gravity of Clinton's lies.
 

Why is this the prevailing view or why should the sitting-President be immune from indictment?

Law suits and the President
 

You have got to be kidding. Clinton could have avoided the whole thing? Boy did he call that one wrong. My opinion of his political judgement just dropped a few points.

The gravity of Clinton's lies.
 

It seems that you (and dems for years) have been using it as a tacit justification.




If wasn't President (or another Executitve Branch official) the special prosecutor law would not have applied, so you are technically correct about Starr, but I am not sure that was your point.

As for Plaintiff's lawyers taking the case, given the facts, I would say if he was a well known person or had deep pockets, someone could have been found. Maybe hank?




Me too, but along my character compels to abide by the letter of the law. If only Clinton had been of like mind.

Law suits and the President
 

I agree with the principle that no man is above the law. But I would think that a court entertaining a suit against the president should be receptive to a motion to stay, unless there's a key witness who is terminal or something.

To avoid a conflict of interest, or the perception thereof. (hank Nixon for firing Elliot Richardson and William Ruckelshaus, so that Robert Bork could fire Archibald Cox.)

The gravity of Clinton's lies.
 

The latter. I was looking for a legal basis, not the policies Spanky just was talking about.

Law suits and the President
 

A quick Google pulls up [an otherwise very slanted] article by John Dean, lists the following timeline:

Law suits and the President
 

Even with that and his behavior that led to impeachment and his obvious contempt and disrespect for that Constitutional process, I didn't think Clinton was a bad president overall through most of 2000, but my opinion of his political judgment fell off the charts with the peace agreement he tried to ram down Israel's throat at the last minute in 2000.

Thank god he didn't get Barak to agree to voluntarily march his people into the Mediterreanean with cement shoes on because I think Arafat may have gone for that one.

The gravity of Clinton's lies.
 

Only if you don't bother to listen to what I'm saying. I think it's a reason to vote against impeachment, but it doesn't justify perjury. Perjury should have consequences -- just not impeachment.

Any prosecutor, special or otherwise.

I think you're supporting my point about the merits. It's odd to hear this coming from the party of tort reform.

Indeed. See my post above re wasted potential.

Afternoon, all.

The gravity of Clinton's lies.
 

1. But we already ascertained that other prosecutors would touch the case and there are people who have gone to jail for the same offense, no?

2. Actually, I am anti-tort reform.

But Our Guy's Lies Weren't Under Oath
 

Deja vu all over again -- I said that this morning, and even called it Bush's final hour. Truly, it's the one moment where I've ever admired him, for resisting the urge to turn Kandahar into an ice-skating rink.