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i was penske 09-18-2009 01:59 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
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Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 400320)
Penske is, in many ways, our Mickey Rourke.

In a good way or a bad way? Also, he still seems more boyishly good looking than the Mick (and botox-free).

i was penske 09-18-2009 02:00 PM

Re: Who knew?
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 400321)
I just bought a pair of Levis 527s...and they fit great. Better than any Banana Republic jean I've owned.






Plus, they really emphasize my junk.


I am wearing my black skinny jeans today, sans under-roos, same effect. The secretarial pool is giddy with gossip over it.

i was penske 09-18-2009 02:03 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 400322)
The Appalachians are in Conn???

She may lay claim to being white trash, but it's the upscale suburban Connecticut manor version. They've got SUVs on the driveway rather than junkers on blocks in the yard.

Wasn't the original Penske from the nutmeg state?

ThurgreedMarshall 09-18-2009 02:21 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400344)
Pehaps oral to completion is in her repertoire.

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400344)
This is one of the truly perplexing questions in life. I can't tell you how often I have sat, stunned into silent contemplation by the dilemma of how to decide whether to spend way too much money on a clothing item that will get little use based on how it looks on someone other than me if I disapprove of that other person's posture. It really makes you think.

This new posting style of yours? You can't pull it off.

TM

Hank Chinaski 09-18-2009 02:26 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 400341)
I have been going through the look book for the Alberta Feretti sale on Gilt, but the woman is doing looks is so terrible, she is making clothes look really awful.

I know a fashion designer who would send the most beautiful garments down the runway on the ugliest models he could find so that they did not distract from his garments. Same with his look book.

They were ugly, but unlike, this woman, at least they had decent posture and visible necks.

How can I be convinced to drop $500 on a sweater at a sample sale, if the model wearing it looks dumpy since she does not know how to stand?

the most over spending i ever did was in amsterdam- at least adjusted for income-

i was in my mid-early 20s and had a funny beard- i was in a boutique on the kalverstraat, looking at an over-priced sweater, and a male clerk walked up to me speaking to me in dutch- like he thought i was dutch! i was so verklumpf that i bought it.

ThurgreedMarshall 09-18-2009 02:28 PM

I approve of these boots...
 
...in this circumstance.

http://on205thimages.com/images/yqx8z78k13glls5idvw.jpg

TM

Adder 09-18-2009 02:28 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 400355)
the most over spending i ever did was in amsterdam.

Is it possible to "overspend" on hookers and mind-altering substances?

Adder 09-18-2009 02:30 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 400354)
This new posting style of yours? You can't pull it off.

TM

My only posting styles are incoherent and mispelled, which I pull off quite well, thank you very much.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-18-2009 02:31 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
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Originally Posted by dtb (Post 400334)
Your last sentence should be your signature line!

I may have to do that.

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The Appalachian Trail is right outside my window. But please, don't anybody stop in just now.
I wouldn't start suggesting people stop in at any time. Isn't it bad enough that Flinty is always there with the binoculars?

Hank Chinaski 09-18-2009 02:31 PM

Re: I approve of these boots...
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 400356)

google "cowboy boots naked" and the first 100 hits are all pretty much good looks.

evenodds 09-18-2009 02:33 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400344)
This is one of the truly perplexing questions in life. I can't tell you how often I have sat, stunned into silent contemplation by the dilemma of how to decide whether to spend way too much money on a clothing item that will get little use based on how it looks on someone other than me if I disapprove of that other person's posture. It really makes you think.

C-list, her posture is important because it gives a sense of how the garment hangs.

A signature sweater I could wear for the next 5-10 years might be worth it at the original $1400 price and it's certainly worth $500.

Clothes are an investment. I have pieces I bought 10 years ago that women still stop me and ask about. I am wearing a gown next week I bought in the 90s, as it is timeless and beautifully constructed and it fits the bride's theme. (Or I may wear this new short cocktail dress I totally love because who thinks "the 30s" is an appropriate theme for a wedding.)

Having a sense of style has nothing to do with spending a lot of money on clothes, to be sure. That does not mean that it's not important to buy some killer stuff, wear them with confidence, and assemble them into a wardrobe.

Fugee 09-18-2009 02:37 PM

Re: Who knew?
 
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Originally Posted by Sparklehorse (Post 400337)
That has to be Photoshopped, right? Right?

For that woman's sake, I sure hope so.

bold_n_brazen 09-18-2009 02:40 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400357)
Is it possible to "overspend" on hookers and mind-altering substances?

I am willing to try.

Fugee 09-18-2009 02:43 PM

Re: This is the thread where the fringster comes back with teeth
 
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Originally Posted by dtb (Post 400334)
The Appalachian Trail is right outside my window. But please, don't anybody stop in just now.

This pretty much settles your white trash street creds. All you need is a mangy dog and some cars up on blocks. Does the soon-to-be Mr. dtb have a nice selection of wife beaters?

Fugee 09-18-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 400364)
I am willing to try.

And this from a newlywed!!! Gasp! :eek:

i was penske 09-18-2009 02:45 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400357)
Is it possible to "overspend" on hookers and mind-altering substances?

Anytime a blackout is involved, any moolah after that point probably falls into the overspending category, unless the hooker is still there in the morning, at which point you can try to amortize the original investment over breakfast in bed. Or at least that's how Penske rolls.

Adder 09-18-2009 02:49 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 400362)
I have pieces I bought 10 years ago that women still stop me and ask about.

Well in that case, it was totally worth the extra 500% (minimum) mark-up!!

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-18-2009 02:58 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400344)
Pehaps oral to completion is in her repertoire.



This is one of the truly perplexing questions in life. I can't tell you how often I have sat, stunned into silent contemplation by the dilemma of how to decide whether to spend way too much money on a clothing item that will get little use based on how it looks on someone other than me if I disapprove of that other person's posture. It really makes you think.

I have been to exactly 3 fashion shows in my life. There are several reasons to overspend there, but how the clothes look on the model has little to do with it. Oral to completion - well, yes, that's one of them.

They're actually kind of fun, and much of the crowd is giggling at a large number of the outfits and a large number of attendees. Best one I went to though was a fundraiser for Jesse Jackson and that was pretty much a rave with class.

Fugee 09-18-2009 03:03 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400368)
Well in that case, it was totally worth the extra 500% (minimum) mark-up!!

I think your basic department store has at least 300% markup so 500% isn't that much worse. But you forgot EO's post about her discount designer web sites. She doesn't pay that kind of markup.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-18-2009 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 400370)
I think your basic department store has at least 300% markup so 500% isn't that much worse. But you forgot EO's post about her discount designer web sites. She doesn't pay that kind of markup.

I'm *not* going to pay a lot for that muffler.

Cletus Miller 09-18-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 400369)
a fundraiser for Jesse Jackson and that was pretty much a rave with class.

So, Jesse wasn't there?

Off having a schvitz with Penske, no doubt.

Adder 09-18-2009 03:15 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 400370)
I think your basic department store has at least 300% markup so 500% isn't that much worse.

Note my use of the word "extra."

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But you forgot EO's post about her discount designer web sites. She doesn't pay that kind of markup.
The 500% I had in mind was based on the very rough example of a $100 department store sweater (admittedly, a bit low) compared to her $500 sample sale designer sweater. That's an "extra" 500%.

Cletus Miller 09-18-2009 03:17 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400373)
The 500% I had in mind was based on the very rough example of a $100 department store sweater (admittedly, a bit low) compared to her $500 sample sale designer sweater. That's an "extra" 500%.

Thus making it evident why you are a lawyer and not someone who works with numbers.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-18-2009 03:17 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400373)
Note my use of the word "extra."



The 500% I had in mind was based on the very rough example of a $100 department store sweater (admittedly, a bit low) compared to her $500 sample sale designer sweater. That's an "extra" 500%.

When you go to a fancy restaurant with your wife, do you order her the pasta and a glass of house wine because you don't want to splurge on chicken and a bottle of Chilean red?

notcasesensitive 09-18-2009 03:18 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 400362)
C-list, her posture is important because it gives a sense of how the garment hangs.

A signature sweater I could wear for the next 5-10 years might be worth it at the original $1400 price and it's certainly worth $500.

Clothes are an investment. I have pieces I bought 10 years ago that women still stop me and ask about. I am wearing a gown next week I bought in the 90s, as it is timeless and beautifully constructed and it fits the bride's theme. (Or I may wear this new short cocktail dress I totally love because who thinks "the 30s" is an appropriate theme for a wedding.)

Having a sense of style has nothing to do with spending a lot of money on clothes, to be sure. That does not mean that it's not important to buy some killer stuff, wear them with confidence, and assemble them into a wardrobe.

I love the $6.99 shorts I got on sale from Old Navy this week. Ah, unemployment.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-18-2009 03:19 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by evenodds (Post 400362)
C-list, her posture is important because it gives a sense of how the garment hangs.

A signature sweater I could wear for the next 5-10 years might be worth it at the original $1400 price and it's certainly worth $500.

Clothes are an investment. I have pieces I bought 10 years ago that women still stop me and ask about. I am wearing a gown next week I bought in the 90s, as it is timeless and beautifully constructed and it fits the bride's theme. (Or I may wear this new short cocktail dress I totally love because who thinks "the 30s" is an appropriate theme for a wedding.)

Having a sense of style has nothing to do with spending a lot of money on clothes, to be sure. That does not mean that it's not important to buy some killer stuff, wear them with confidence, and assemble them into a wardrobe.

2. I have three or four pair of shoes I bought in 2001 that I still wear today. They were expensive, but for that kind of mileage (and they're still going), it's a bargain. Same with watches. Buy one classic design and you're done with that accessory for 20 years.

Santoni. Best shoes ever made. Fit you like a glove and never wear out.

Same goes for cars. Do it right once and get 250k out of the vehicle. These asshats flipping Escalades, Range Rovers and junk like that at 36k deserve to go bankrupt.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-18-2009 03:20 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive (Post 400376)
I love the $6.99 shorts I got on sale from Old Navy this week. Ah, unemployment.


And they look stunning!

Adder 09-18-2009 03:21 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 400374)
Thus making it evident why you are a lawyer and not someone who works with numbers.

Eh, 500% greater than the department story price, 500% extra mark up, whatever. Close enough.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-18-2009 03:24 PM

Re: I approve of these boots...
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 400356)

That's the chick from Y Tu Mama Tambien?

Christ, she's held up well.

Cletus Miller 09-18-2009 03:24 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400379)
Eh, 500% greater than the department story price, 500% extra mark up, whatever. Close enough.

Stop digging.

Replaced_Texan 09-18-2009 03:24 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 400369)
I have been to exactly 3 fashion shows in my life. There are several reasons to overspend there, but how the clothes look on the model has little to do with it. Oral to completion - well, yes, that's one of them.

They're actually kind of fun, and much of the crowd is giggling at a large number of the outfits and a large number of attendees. Best one I went to though was a fundraiser for Jesse Jackson and that was pretty much a rave with class.

I used to help my friend Vanessa put them on all the time.

She and my neighbor Jeff, who owns a modeling agency, have pretty much convinced me that posture, fluidity in walking and the ability to let a garment hang without drawing too much attention away from the garment is the key to good model. I have none of these qualities. But Jeff fabulously compliments me all the time, so I'll live with the disappointment that I'll never be a model.

ETA: Huh. I sat next to Jesse Jackson at a charity fashion show back when the Superbowl was here. You were there?

Sidd Finch 09-18-2009 03:25 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400344)
Pehaps oral to completion is in her repertoire.



This is one of the truly perplexing questions in life. I can't tell you how often I have sat, stunned into silent contemplation by the dilemma of how to decide whether to spend way too much money on a clothing item that will get little use based on how it looks on someone other than me if I disapprove of that other person's posture. It really makes you think.

Damn, Adder -- E/O brings out the feisty in you.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-18-2009 03:30 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 400382)
I used to help my friend Vanessa put them on all the time.

She and my neighbor Jeff, who owns a modeling agency, have pretty much convinced me that posture, fluidity in walking and the ability to let a garment hang without drawing too much attention away from the garment is the key to good model. I have none of these qualities. But Jeff fabulously compliments me all the time, so I'll live with the disappointment that I'll never be a model.

ETA: Huh. I sat next to Jesse Jackson at a charity fashion show back when the Superbowl was here. You were there?

No, not a superbowl fashion show. One back when I was young and working in politics. Chicago.

Replaced_Texan 09-18-2009 03:31 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 400377)
2. I have three or four pair of shoes I bought in 2001 that I still wear today. They were expensive, but for that kind of mileage (and they're still going), it's a bargain. Same with watches. Buy one classic design and you're done with that accessory for 20 years.

Santoni. Best shoes ever made. Fit you like a glove and never wear out.

Same goes for cars. Do it right once and get 250k out of the vehicle. These asshats flipping Escalades, Range Rovers and junk like that at 36k deserve to go bankrupt.

My most expensive pair of shoes are these wonderfully outlandish laquered platform ankle wraps from Dolche and Gabbana. I bought them probably six or seven years ago, and I love, love, love them. Every single time I wear them, people (mostly women, but some men) ask about them. I almost didn't get them when I saw the price tag, but my sister is a very persuasive enabler.

Adder 09-18-2009 03:34 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 400377)
2. I have three or four pair of shoes I bought in 2001 that I still wear today. They were expensive, but for that kind of mileage (and they're still going), it's a bargain. Same with watches. Buy one classic design and you're done with that accessory for 20 years.

Santoni. Best shoes ever made. Fit you like a glove and never wear out.

Same goes for cars. Do it right once and get 250k out of the vehicle. These asshats flipping Escalades, Range Rovers and junk like that at 36k deserve to go bankrupt.

I have no problem with proclaiming that you really like a more expensive brand because of its styling, or because you like the prestige of owning it, but I do not believe that you are so delusional as to actually believe that the price of high-end luxury items can be fully accounted for by differences in quality. Especially high-end shoes with leather soles that wear out if you walk at all in them.

As a few examples, is a Lexus really "higher quality" than a Toyota? Nope. It has some fancier features, and may be more care (i.e., more powerful) but both are going to perform admirably. I'm all for buying the Lexus because you like it and it's fun, but don't pretend it's a "better" car.

Same for a $5000 watch versus a $500 watch. Both will last you 20 years (if for some deranged reason you are still wearing a watch 20 years from now), and both can be equally "classic" in design.

In other words, high-quality is one thing (heck, I've been known to buy Hickey Freeman suits, recognizing that I could get something similar for less), and then there is high-end.

Hank Chinaski 09-18-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 400385)
persuasive enabler.

those are nice, but the most important thing in a shopping buddy is someone willing to say "nope. that isn't something you'll wear" or "nope. that isn't something you should wear."

I can get to yes on my own.

Adder 09-18-2009 03:35 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 400381)
Stop digging.

Eh, 400%, 500%, same damn thing.


(where's my shovel?)

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-18-2009 03:35 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400386)
In other words, high-quality is one thing (heck, I've been known to buy Hickey Freeman suits, recognizing that I could get something similar for less), and then there is high-end.

So you really do think chicken and chilean wine is a splurge?

Adder 09-18-2009 03:41 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 400389)
So you really do think chicken and chilean wine is a splurge?

Why would I order chicken and Chilean wine when I can order belgian beer and mussels?

In other irrational rants, I also do not understand ordering chicken in a restaurant, as you can generally prepare it just as deliciously at home.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-18-2009 03:42 PM

Re: Ugly Models
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400390)
Why would I order chicken and Chilean wine when I can order belgian beer and mussels?

In other irrational rants, I also do not understand ordering chicken in a restaurant, as you can generally prepare it just as deliciously at home.

With less of a mark-up, too.


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