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Did the company fuck up from an HR standpoint? Yes, mishandled (no one involved noticed how it looked). Was the claim deserving of a payout? No. You’re confusing deserving claims with technically sustainable claims. They’re the same about 1/2 of the time. |
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It was a bad photo. But this "If you violate the current subject of most outrage, you must be exiled" shit is overkill. The guy's far more than his worst moment. Most of it quite positive for women. |
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Al gets it. So it’s moot anyway. |
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Was what he did offensive and stupid? Yes. Is it deserving of loss of his senate seat? Based on allegations to date, unequivocally not. |
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It's not up to us. It's especially not up to us when the options are taking sexual misconduct seriously or dismissing it. In a future world that makes fine decisions about the seriousness of types of misconduct, maybe it would be different. We're nit there. Today it's okay or not okay, and Al's alleged conduct isn't okay. |
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I honestly don't have a strong about the ability of men to have or advocate for whatever opinions they hold on a lot of this sexual misconduct stuff, but I actually prefer it when men just act as they used to, rather than act pretty much the same way, but adopting an I'm With Her persona. |
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I'm looking forward to seeing this hit law firms and legal departments. There are no shortage of worthy candidates for a public flogging. One of the things that aggravates me immensely are the surveys of why women leave law firms. Most of them don't include questions about overt discrimination, harassment, assault or rape. They regularly ask about "unintentional discrimination". The Canadian Bar just did one that included harassment. Guess what? |
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I was trying to respond while adequately appreciating the irony. |
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Franken has been sentenced excessively and hastily. And no - it’s not okay to apply overly harsh judgment because he’s a public figure. In the legal realm, that’s selective sentencing. That prosecutors and courts engage in it under the rationalization it deters malfeasance does not make it right. Our courts’ and legislatures’ acceptance of that line of reasoning is disturbing, and underscores how demented our civil and criminal justice systems are. |
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Get with the program. It’s all about self branding, about telecasting knowledge of an issue and self-aggrandizing open-mindedness, or bigoted closed-mindedness, but offering no reasonable solution. No one gives a fuck about serious solutions to anything anymore. Hell, they haven’t for a long fucking time. “I’m a proud deplorable! Fox News! Fuck yeah!” “I’m with the pink hats! Revolution! Overturn patriarchy.” “I’m for awareness of all kinds, generally! I’m enlightened. Where can I march?” |
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But for me, it's not just a matter of washing the past away with a vote. He's got to demonstrate that he gets it and has changed. Might still be hard to pick him over a qualified woman though. |
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If men can't understand, which is something she actually says, then there would be no point in talking about any of it. |
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In situations like this, concerns for the rights of those accused of lesser bad behaviors, like Franken, are heightened. There is nothing more dangerous than a movement immune to criticism. |
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Leaving aside the extremes of bad behaviour, the issue has nuances and our political/legal systems don't do well with nuance. |
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Obviously, little memo to next Prez. |
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What is the opposite of "diplomacy"? And what do these clowns think they are doing? Oh, wait:
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