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 Re: You (all) lie! So.  Should we be subjecting the tighty-whities bomber to "enhanced interrogation?" I remember those old, simpler times when the idea was that this would be OK provided that we had a ticking time bomb in Peoria, but to judge from GOP talking heads these days, apparently we've moved beyond that. | 
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 Next question: Did he smuggle anything on board that didn't comply with the rules (other than by being an explosive, of course)? In other words, did he have less than 3 ozs of liquid? | 
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 you are aware there is a lot of media being generated, with lots of people saying lots of things? | 
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 Re: You (all) lie! I applaud your call for better clarity in posting, Hank. | 
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 To answer your query about what GOP talking heads could possibly be saying such things in this Babel of voices in today's crazy media landscape, here are a few. Smilin' Bill Kristol. Frownin' Pat Buchanan. The Wall Street Journal. Some Schmuck From The Bush Administration. Michael Goldfarb, ex-McCain Schmuck. And Rasmussen suggests that 58% of Americans, after all these years, are only so far away from Salem. Remember, Hank. If he floats, he's a witch. | 
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 and I read the WSJ and it only says we might have considered not making the guy a criminal so we can interrogate him at all, nothing about waterboarding. one thing about you, you really keep amount of concern focused on how credible your posts here come off. | 
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 "This increasing terror tempo makes the Obama Administration's reflexive impulse to treat terrorists like routine criminal suspects all the more worrisome. It immediately indicted Mr. Abdulmutallab on criminal charges of trying to destroy an aircraft, despite reports that he told officials he had ties to al Qaeda and had picked up his PETN explosive in Yemen. The charges mean the Nigerian can only be interrogated like any other defendant in a criminal case, subject to having a lawyer present and his Miranda rights read.Hank, you're telling me that WSJ is advocating classifying him as an enemy combatant, but NOT for enanced interrogation! No. We just, you know, want to ask him a question or two. Nicely. Maybe serve him some tea. But never mind. My original question was whether we should or should not waterboard the guy. Your inclination is to discuss, instead, posters' underlying motivations in writing it in the first place and the adequacy of supporting information. Again. | 
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 And that these conservatives point with a sense of vindication to this poll. I don't think the poll makes a lot of sense, but regardless, it doesn't matter. We're supposed to be a nation of laws, which doesn't decide to ignore them just because of what a fucking poll says. Conservatives used to hold those kinds of principles. Quote: 
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 do you feel miranda provides a suspect any protection? Let's assume you do. Then not given this guy miranda rights might result in our getting some information we won't get now, correct? thanks. and with that you and I are done. so for you, the pb is now a place with no one on the other side even reading what you dribble on the screen. Enjoy! | 
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