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bold_n_brazen 09-18-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 400380)
That's the chick from Y Tu Mama Tambien?

Christ, she's held up well.

I sincerely dig her outfit. I wonder if I can get it on gilt?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-18-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 400384)
No, not a superbowl fashion show. One back when I was young and working in politics. Chicago.

Translation: Career advancement required me to buy a ticket.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-18-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 400381)
Stop digging.

He's gotta dig that extra 100%.

Replaced_Texan 09-18-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 400387)
those are nice, but the most important thing in a shopping buddy is someone willing to say "nope. that isn't something you'll wear" or "nope. that isn't something you should wear."

I can get to yes on my own.

Oh, she's a little too good at the "what the fuck were you even thinking by trying that on??? Take it off, put it back, and lets never speak of this again."

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-18-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 400375)
When you go to a fancy restaurant with your wife, do you order her the pasta and a glass of house wine because you don't want to splurge on chicken and a bottle of Chilean red?

Yes.

ThurgreedMarshall 09-18-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400386)
I have no problem with proclaiming that you really like a more expensive brand because of its styling, or because you like the prestige of owning it, but I do not believe that you are so delusional as to actually believe that the price of high-end luxury items can be fully accounted for by differences in quality. Especially high-end shoes with leather soles that wear out if you walk at all in them.

As a few examples, is a Lexus really "higher quality" than a Toyota? Nope. It has some fancier features, and may be more care (i.e., more powerful) but both are going to perform admirably. I'm all for buying the Lexus because you like it and it's fun, but don't pretend it's a "better" car.

What are you talking about? The Bruno Magli shoes I have most certainly are that much nicer than the crap ass shoes I own. The leather is 5 times as soft, they are made to not fall apart and they will last a long, long time. The same goes for automobiles. Not in every case and surely not to the extent of the markup, but quality items are better made, have better materials, are more comfortable and last longer than cheaper stuff.

TM

Cletus Miller 09-18-2009 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 400397)
What are you talking about? The Bruno Magli shoes I have most certainly are that much nicer than the crap ass shoes I own. The leather is 5 times as soft, they are made to not fall apart and they will last a long, long time. The same goes for automobiles. Not in every case and surely not to the extent of the markup, but quality items are better made, have better materials, are more comfortable and last longer than cheaper stuff.

TM

Translation: Don't let OJ find me.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-18-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400386)
Same for a $5000 watch versus a $500 watch. Both will last you 20 years (if for some deranged reason you are still wearing a watch 20 years from now), and both can be equally "classic" in design.

You are unlikely to get the following with a $500 watch that you would probably get with a $1000 watch:
  • Scratch resistant sapphire crystal (mineral crystal scratches - I've ruined two watches bashing them against something)
  • Actual screws (instead of pins) on the bracelet
  • Solid bracelet links (instead of hollow)
  • Swiss movement, which has historically always been the best

A good Swiss made watch will outlive you.

I will agree that there isn't much difference between an Oris, Omega or a Rolex. The Omega costs probably twice as much as the Oris, and the Rolex probably costs three times as much as the Omega. I don't think any of them make their own movements (as the real high-end watchmakers do - Rolex is not high-end).

sebastian_dangerfield 09-18-2009 04:02 PM

Re: I approve of these boots...
 
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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 400392)
I sincerely dig her outfit. I wonder if I can get it on gilt?

So do I. I wonder if I could get it to sit in my lap.

Adder 09-18-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 400397)
they are made to not fall apart and they will last a long, long time

I don't typically buy very expensive shoes, in particular because I tend to walk in my shoes, but I have never observed that there is a correlation between price and shoe life that isn't explained by the tendency to wear the fancy shoes less frequently, and in less taxing ways. In other words, your Bruni Magli's may last a long time, but I'm skeptical that it isn't because you don't wear them very often.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-18-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 400389)
So you really do think chicken and chilean wine is a splurge?

I can't remember the last time I ordered chicken at a nice restaurant.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 09-18-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 400404)
I can't remember the last time I ordered chicken at a nice restaurant.

I'm trying to figure out what variety of whiff this is. So what do you order?

Adder 09-18-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 400400)
You are unlikely to get the following with a $500 that you would probably get with a $1000 watch:
  • Scratch resistant sapphire crystal (mineral crystal scratches - I've ruined two watches bashing them against something)
  • Actual screws (instead of pins) on the bracelet
  • Solid bracelet links (instead of hollow)
  • Swiss movement, which has historically always been the best

And which of these items are worth $4,500, or the 9 additional $500 watches you could buy?

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I will agree that there isn't much difference between an Oris, Omega or a Rolex. The Omega costs probably twice as much as the Oris, and the Rolex probably costs three times as much as the Omega. I don't think any of them make their own movements (as the real high-end watchmakers do).
A high-end watch is the most absurd of luxury items. Why not just get yourself a jewelled bracelet?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-18-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 400406)
I'm trying to figure out what variety of whiff this is. So what do you order?

Oh, I scrolled far enough to understand the joke. My post wasn't a criticism of what I thought was a sincere comment from you. It was just a post about chicken.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-18-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 400397)
What are you talking about? The Bruno Magli shoes I have most certainly are that much nicer than the crap ass shoes I own. The leather is 5 times as soft, they are made to not fall apart and they will last a long, long time. The same goes for automobiles. Not in every case and surely not to the extent of the markup, but quality items are better made, have better materials, are more comfortable and last longer than cheaper stuff.

TM

That's the fucked up thing about Santonis. The leather's super thin and supple, but it never gives. Ferragamos with heavier leather die after two years of wear.

Best solution to the cost of shoes is driving moccasins. I started wearing those to work many years ago and found that they save you a ton of money. Every shoemaker manufactures a decent moccasin, and unless they're Todds or some Gucci shit, they're usually a lot less than shoes. Wear those instead and you have to replace fewer pairs of shoes. They're also great if you're anti-sock, as I am.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-18-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400407)
And which of these items are worth $4,500, or the 9 additional $500 watches you could buy?

I have no idea, especially since I was comparing a $1000 watch to a $500 watch.

Adder 09-18-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 400409)
They're also great if you're anti-sock, as I am.

Um, tmi. And yuck.

ETA: Also, please at least tell me you drive a car with a manual transmission. Otherwise the driving moccasins are just far too comical.

Adder 09-18-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 400410)
I have no idea, especially since I was comparing a $1000 watch to a $500 watch.

Math is hard. So is reading.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-18-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400407)
And which of these items are worth $4,500, or the 9 additional $500 watches you could buy?

A high-end watch is the most absurd of luxury items. Why not just get yourself a jewelled bracelet?

I agree on the "look at me - I got a bonus in excess of $15k!" Rolex Submariner every moderately successful male between 25 and 35 seems to buy. But a decent Day/Date or Datejust in solid stainless steel with a conservative band is a classic look that goes with everything. It's got great snob appeal as well, as it consciously notes, "No, I did not go with the diving watch because, as we both know, neither one of us goes diving, you ass."

NTTAWWDiving watches. The Submariner just irks me. It's too big and showy - looks as big as a dinner roll plate on all but a morbidly obese man's wrist.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-18-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 400409)
They're also great if you're anti-sock, as I am.

You're like some kind of fancy Parrothead.*

*Hi NotBob!

sebastian_dangerfield 09-18-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400411)
Um, tmi. And yuck.

ETA: Also, please at least tell me you drive a car with a manual transmission. Otherwise the driving moccasins are just far too comical.

Socks with driving shoes? I'll add "any semblance of fashion sense" to math on the list of things with which you're unacquainted.

taxwonk 09-18-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 400356)

Admit it. She'd look at least twice as hot without them.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-18-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 400414)
You're like some kind of fancy Parrothead.*

*Hi NotBob!

Why would anyone wear socks voluntarily? Don't you like your feet to breath? They're the only thing I loath more than underwear. Tidy whiteys for the feet.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-18-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 400413)
NTTAWWDiving watches. The Submariner just irks me. It's too big and showy - looks as big as a dinner roll plate on all but a morbidly obese man's wrist.

I have one (not a Rolex, but a dive watch). It's not huge. Understated. The good thing about diving watches is their toughness, which I need since, as stated above, I beat the hell out of watches. Also, they are legitimately waterproof, so you can swim and not worry about it.

Adder 09-18-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 400415)
Socks with driving shoes? I'll add "any semblance of fashion sense" to math on the list of things with which you're unacquainted.

You are talking about driving shoes, and yet claim a semblance of fashion sense?

But I thought you were saying you are anti-sock generally. Which is gross.

Adder 09-18-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 400419)
I have one (not a Rolex, but a dive watch). It's not huge. Understated. The good thing about diving watches is their toughness, which I need since, as stated above, I beat the hell out of watches. Also, they are legitimately waterproof, so you can swim and not worry about it.

Not wearing a watch is also good for swimming and not worrying about it.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-18-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 400418)
Why would anyone wear socks? Don't you like your feet to breath? They're the only thing I loath more than underwear. Tidy whiteys for the feet.

Preaching to the choir. I hate socks.


Speaking of clothes, I realized the other day that I don't own a sweatshirt. Long-sleeved t-shirts? Yes. Long-sleeved fleece? Yes. But no sweatshirts. Or sweatpants for that matter.

ThurgreedMarshall 09-18-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400403)
I don't typically buy very expensive shoes, in particular because I tend to walk in my shoes, but I have never observed that there is a correlation between price and shoe life that isn't explained by the tendency to wear the fancy shoes less frequently, and in less taxing ways. In other words, your Bruni Magli's may last a long time, but I'm skeptical that it isn't because you don't wear them very often.

Of course you are, but that's because you're a jackass who can't see past your own two feet.

I am fairly certain I walk more than you, but if I don't, then you walk a whole hell of a lot. Well-made shoes (and these tend to be more expensive) do not give at the seams, do not have soles that wear out as quickly and quite simply, last longer. I do the same things in my cheap shoes that I do in my expensive ones and there is a significant difference. Just like there is a significant difference between an expensive tv and a cheap one or an expensive toaster and a cheap one. Cheap things are made cheaply.

TM

Replaced_Texan 09-18-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 400418)
Why would anyone wear socks voluntarily? Don't you like your feet to breath? They're the only thing I loath more than underwear. Tidy whiteys for the feet.

I don't generally like wearing shoes all that much. My boyfriend is of the opinon that my shoe closet should be right by the front door, because I kick them off as soon as I walk into the house and generally don't put them on until right before I leave.

ThurgreedMarshall 09-18-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 400404)
I can't remember the last time I ordered chicken at a nice restaurant.

I tend to agree with Adder on the chicken thing. Except for the champagne chicken I had at La Something Or Other at a closing dinner. That was some good chicken, man.

TM

sebastian_dangerfield 09-18-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400420)
You are talking about driving shoes, and yet claim a semblance of fashion sense?

But I thought you were saying you are anti-sock generally. Which is gross.

I am anti-sock generally. That your genetics marred you with overactive sweat glands and atrocious foot odor is hardly my fault. Though if it's any consolation, I feel for you. That you'll go through life wearing socks every day, and never know the joy of letting your feet interface with the environment as Jesus intended wells my eyes with a deep sense of pity.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-18-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 400424)
I don't generally like wearing shoes all that much. My boyfriend is of the opinon that my shoe closet should be right by the front door, because I kick them off as soon as I walk into the house and generally don't put them on until right before I leave.

I'm with you. I was in court this morning and peeling those goddamned lace-ups and socks off my feet at the gym afterward was near orgasmic. Reminds me of taking off boots after a day of skiing. Release.

ThurgreedMarshall 09-18-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 400421)
Not wearing a watch is also good for swimming and not worrying about it.

You are hyper annoying today.

TM

Adder 09-18-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 400423)
Cheap things are made cheaply.

This would perhaps be a salient point if someone had been arguing that cheap things were the same as high-end luxury things. Thankfully, no one was.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 09-18-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 400423)
Of course you are, but that's because you're a jackass who can't see past your own two feet.

I am fairly certain I walk more than you, but if I don't, then you walk a whole hell of a lot. Well-made shoes (and these tend to be more expensive) do not give at the seams, do not have soles that wear out as quickly and quite simply, last longer. I do the same things in my cheap shoes that I do in my expensive ones and there is a significant difference. Just like there is a significant difference between an expensive tv and a cheap one or an expensive toaster and a cheap one. Cheap things are made cheaply.

TM

Some "high end" brands, like Wolf/Subzero, Bose and any expensive fashion watch are actually probably lower quality than much less expensive alternatives.

For example, a nice Seiko will last longer than the piece of crap Michele watch that my wife has (for a third of the price).

ThurgreedMarshall 09-18-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 400424)
I don't generally like wearing shoes all that much. My boyfriend is of the opinon that my shoe closet should be right by the front door, because I kick them off as soon as I walk into the house and generally don't put them on until right before I leave.

Who wears shoes at home?

TM

sebastian_dangerfield 09-18-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 400423)
Of course you are, but that's because you're a jackass who can't see past your own two feet.

I am fairly certain I walk more than you, but if I don't, then you walk a whole hell of a lot. Well-made shoes (and these tend to be more expensive) do not give at the seams, do not have soles that wear out as quickly and quite simply, last longer. I do the same things in my cheap shoes that I do in my expensive ones and there is a significant difference. Just like there is a significant difference between an expensive tv and a cheap one or an expensive toaster and a cheap one. Cheap things are made cheaply.

TM

You have to try the moccasin thing if you haven't already. I used to have to walk seven blocks from the train and the difference between the walk in mocs and serious shoes is like the difference between waking up at 7 and 9.

Adder 09-18-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 400424)
I kick them off as soon as I walk into the house and generally don't put them on until right before I leave.

Is this abnormal? A friend was telling me that not wearing shoes in the house was a midwestern thing, and that people other regions keep their shoes on. If that is right, why?

i was penske 09-18-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 400372)
So, Jesse wasn't there?

Off having a schvitz with Penske, no doubt.

Right on! Those were the dayz.

taxwonk 09-18-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 400426)
I am anti-sock generally. That your genetics marred you with overactive sweat glands and atrocious foot odor is hardly my fault. Though if it's any consolation, I feel for you. That you'll go through life wearing socks every day, and never know the joy of letting your feet interface with the environment as Jesus intended wells my eyes with a deep sense of pity.

Did he wear driving mocs?


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