Mr. Personality
 

Fuck. Fuck. Double Fuck. I completely forgot this was on last night. (I guess that shows me how compelling the show was last week).

Maybe you can answer the questions I posed last week after a second viewing. Do they just eliminate one of the 10 that were left? I assume it was just the lawyer guy with the goofy hair from your post.

What's the line on the motivational speaker guy? Does he still have her totally snowed? How long do you expect that might last b/f she wises up?

As an aside, in the previews for the unmasking, I could have sworn the footage was that of the bald guy taking his mask off. Is he still hanging in? After its second week, any idea of whether this is worth watching, or was I wise to miss it?

COahella/Calverton
 

Like near the Hamptons? That far east? ANywhere near the airports?

(is any festival worth a suimmer trip on the LIE?)

COahella/Calverton
 

It's not as far east as the Hamptons, so you won't have to deal with the single lane nightmare that is Route 27 between the end of the LIE and your Hamptons destination.

On an ordinary weekend, the traffic is most hellish on Friday afternoon/evening and Saturday mid-morning; then Sunday afternoon/eve. If you drive very late Fri or very early Sat you ought to be OK. Given the number of expected attendees at the concerts, however, normal rules probably won't apply. You should make a long weekend of it. Don't you have pals with summer shares?

As for airports, you can fly SW Airlines from BWI-Islip for cheap and rent a car. In normal traffic conditions you can get from Islip to Riverhead in 45 mins. or so; if there's no traffic, 1/2 hour. Also, you can avoid the LIE for long stretches b/w Riverhead & Islip if your flight times put you in the midst of heavy traffic.

Your lodging options in Riverhead itself are probably not up to your standards, but you could try to find a cute place to stay on the North Fork, east of Riverhead, and then drive west to get to the concert grounds. There are also plenty of generic Radisson/Marriott Courtyard places along the LIE. I do NOT recommend staying anywhere in or near the Hamptons because that will make your travel to and from the event difficult.

Here's a rather unexciting article from the LI paper: http://www.newsday.com/entertainment...613apr16.story

Anyway, how'd you do on Open tix?

I hope TM got his minions to save his songs
 

bc it appears that they may hav finally killed off the FL boards? Or my computer is effed.

Coachella
 

I attended a big music festival last fall. There was a huge crowd there, too, for G Love. I checked it out for a minute before deciding lunch and the Rebirth Brass Band was a better option. (The Rebirth Brass Band is always a better option.)

As for funky white boys, they may be my favorite concert goers. There is a tremendous overlap between the shows I see and the shows they see. The FWBs are all flailing elbows and stuttering movements. The OM has to shove them at times to keep them from hitting me and they are always so apologetic.

It's not you. It's the new generation of fattie twentysomethings. I feel a certain pride that they don't define themselves by the stringent standard of American beauty that drove many people I know to eating disorders. I also feel that putting down the burritos and moving off the sofa would be a good move.

Mr. Personality
 

They are down to 6. Two quit and two others were eliminated. Monica went off on the guy who quit at the ceremony and told him that he was eliminated anyway. That was kind of funny.

I'm not sure that it is worth watching, but I will probably do so if I am at home next Monday. The masks still fucking creep me out. What assholes these guys must feel like when they go out in public in those things.

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COahella/Calverton
 

Sounds like a total fucking nightmare. I take it that this place is not near JFK or LGA? Is it LIRR accessible?

I already have tix for two dates due to rainouts last year and am still coordinating with friends and fam to see who wants to go to what. What I would really love to do is spend Memorial Day in Gay Paree and go to the French but that would probably be tres expenseeeeeeve. i wonder if anyone else here has done the abroad tennis tour thing?

Mr. Personality
 

Only 6? WTF, is this show only supposed to have a 4-week run?

Was bald guy one of the quitters, then or was that more FOX creative editing? Who else is gone? Is the software development tycoon still in?

I hope TM got his minions to save his songs
 

I also received a server error for all of infirm, not just the FB. I saw posts dated 4/28. Maybe they are gone, but they should be cached on google, so they are never really gone.

For example: this is a cached page of the old FAQ: http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Mr. Personality
 

I feel bad for those guys. Their pathetic 15 minutes are spent looking like colorful members of the Blue Man Group and capped off with sweaty haired goodbyes with mask indentations on their faces. Not even Mr. Pitt would look good under those circumstances.

Manor House on PBS
 

Anyone else watch this new Edwardian-flashback reality show last night, where folks sign on to be a nouveau-riche manor family and their slew of servants?

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Most amusing was mandatory manor-family led morning prayer for the servants where the manor family prayed to God that the servants would be obedient, dutiful, and serve them humbly. I can't imagine why Edwardian servants didn't simply kill their pompous drain-on-society masters in their sleep.
Also real-life businessman husband expressing surprise that real-life doctor wife actually had the brains to figure out complex dinner party etiquette. That's another jackass I'd've targeted.

Coachella
 

Why wouldn't this make you a funky white girl?

TM

Mr. Personality
 

The bald guy is still in it. As is the millionaire dude. I think the editors want you to want the rich guy to win (another fairytale ending for Fox?).

The lawyer who hooked up with some luau girl quit at the offer ceremony (or whatever it is called) and the guy in the light green mask, who I remember nothing about, quit at the luau party. The woman dismissed the unemployed asian guy who got a lap dance at the luau and a kind of dorky guy named Joe (light blue mask, I believe), who got drunk and made an idiot of himself professing strong feelings for the chick after one day at the house.

They saved the motiviational guy to be the last one picked, building the suspense as to whether she is falling under his hypnotic spell or not (she said she was creeped out by him watching from the top of the stairs when she was having alone time with some other guy).

The bald guy got alone time in the "dark room" but lacked the game to make a move. She said she could feel that his hair was "thinner".

n(you are now up to speed)cs

I hope TM got his minions to save his songs
 

I can get to the list of boards, but can't open any boards or messages. HTTP 500 error (whatever that means).

Coachella
 

1. There aren't really funky white girls. If there are girls with the FWBs, they are often twirling hippie chicks.

2. I am a woman, which puts me in a whole other category. I went to a Charlie Hunter/Karl Denson's Tiny Universe show a few months ago and there were people talking during Charlie's set -- so I tapped the offenders on the shoulder and told them to be quiet or move to the back of the venue. I'd like to think my icy stare silenced them, but it was probably the enforcer standing behind me.

Hey man nice shot
 

O.K., here is a trivia quiz. No Google allowed. What event inspired that Filter song? Hint: It was not Cobain's death.

Manor House on PBS
 

Same reason we don't rise up and strike down the partners - because then we'd be out of a job without references.

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That actually was very usual, and makes more sense once you focus on the idea of "family" as it was meant prior to this century. The family wasn't a genetically related unit, it was a household and everyone in it, and the head of the "family" was ultimately responsible for the moral and physical wellbeing of everyone. So religious services were generally conducted by the head of house, and were required just as parents still often enforce religious training and practice on their children. The idea of an employer interfering in an adult's life to that extent - determining private schedules, passing judgment on private behavior, approving or disapproving marriage prospects & social activities, dictating the activities, education, employment, etc. of the servant's own children and kin, etc. - seems abhorrent now, but makes some sense if you think, as they did, that the servants are not essentially different from the children of the house in their dependence on the master and the nature of the master's obligations toward them. (The part most people don't get anymore is the notion of the master's obligations toward his servants, which tends to get glossed over in favor of noting only the dependence and obligations of the servants.)
Hey, it's harder than it seems. I've seen perfectly intelligent people turned to jelly by the thought of having to figure out what fork to use, nevermind sorting out how to perform such basic maneouvers as eating salad with a knife and fork, eating dessert with a fork and spoon or eating fish with two forks (OK, that last isn't so simple). Nevermind the more complex social etiquette, such as turning table, signaling course changes, seating arrangements organized by both rank and compatibility, supervising the pouring coffee in the drawing room after dinner.

Coachella
 

This is my reminder. I just missed these guys in Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago, and am very curious. I have read a bit about them, but would like to hear your persepctive.

Mr. Personality
 

Me either. I caught it last night and, frankly, I just don't care. Somehow, with Joe M, I DID care, if only to see how BAD it was going to get last time. The women's humiliation was palpable. Somehow I am just not getting that with Mr. P. The are all dim and unlikable (particularly the woman).

However, I think the underlying premise of the show is pretty interesting (or I want to). I don't think men are used to overtly competing with each other for female attention like this anymore (while women are more used to the idea). Also interesting is that many of the guys seem to consider the women in the house basically interchangeable - if not Haley, then a hula chick, whatever, he still wins. Mind you, there weren't alternative guys floating about on Joe M like that (though I can't believe someone didn't try flirting with Paul, who seemed to me a much more interesting catch than Evan), but it was interesting to see.

Then again, I haven't watched the Bachelorette or any of the other "man bites dog" "now the shoe is on the other foot" dating shows, so maybe this isn't so weird.

I hope TM got his minions to save his songs
 

They are probably just having technological problems. Everyone has them, from time to time.

Emerson String Quartet
 

If you ever get the chance to see the Emerson String Quartet perform either Shubert's Death and the Maiden or Barber's Adagio, don't miss it. I was transfixed pretty much the entire evening, and I can safely say that most of the rest of the audience was too. The Adagio was right before intermission, and that was a good call. I think everyone needed to catch their breath after that piece of music. Usually at this concert series, some patrons clear out after the first half, but everyone was back in their seat for Death and the Maiden. The concert started with a Beethoven string quartet (Op. 18, No.1), which was also excellent, which was followed by a more modern piece by Aitken, but the last two pieces were unbelievable.

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The real reason "Cancun" flopped at the theater?
 

"Hollywood producer Tom Sherak, a partner at Revolution Studios, said the flop of "Cancun" has more to do with the old adage that audiences are reluctant to pay to see something in theaters that they can get at home for free on television."

So that we can attribute the article to CNN who, I believe attributed the article to Roto Reuters, see http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movi...eut/index.html

Funny. I thought it had to do with the old adage that most people will not pay to see overweight men wear red bikini speedos . . .

Manor House on PBS
 

I don't doubt the difficulty! But if I were a doctor, and entrusted with saving people's lives, I would expect that my partner wouldn't be surprised that I could at least study a book and memorize the rules. It was the "gee, I guess my wife isn't a moron!" patronizing thing that made me want to slap him.

But then, I wouldn't really slap him. I was raised to be a lady after all. :)

Hey man nice shot
 

I had to break the rules and google, because that was so fucking obscure I would have never figured it out. Because of this, I will refrain from answering. If you knew that witout googling, you're a much better man than I.

Hey man nice shot
 

That was so not obscure. What planet are you from?

She just smiled, and turned away.
 

Duh. It was the Buddy Holly/Richie Valens/Big Bopper plane crash. You know, the day the music died. Sheesh.

Hey man nice shot
 

Geez, I for one am not afraid to admit when I don't know something. I guess that's something only you "classy" people would know. You must be a real party to be around, you patronizing hag.

Edited to say: Well, I didn't see you answer the question, either, so spill, If you're so damn smart.

Coachella
 

I have now been informed that Fischerspooner were quite popular with a small hipster circle in Manhattan about 1.5 to 2 years ago and, consequently, are now has-beens. Therefore, I am no longer interested in your review. But, if you saw someone at Coachella who is a little more current, I would like to hear about that.

Mr. Personality
 

Say it--the girl is a total bitch. She will never find the right man because she is too good for all of them.

Anyone notice that it was 35 minutes into the show before Monica was onscreen? I guess she didn't test well last week.

I do think that Brian (who was a total doofus) got a bum rap for quitting at the ceremony. Maybe he thought that by taking himself out of the competition he would be giving another guy the chance to stay. Instead they called him a wimp, a chicken, and not a real man. I actually gave him points for what he did. But what's up with the hair?

Hey man nice shot
 

I don't equate intelligence with knowledge of trivia. The answer is the self-shooting of the PA politican .

And I don't resort to misogynistic namecalling when I have perceived a slight. Pretty petty and not real becoming, yes?

Just Don't Get it On Film
 

Mildly appropos, there is a big scandal in the sports world because a married college basketball coach (Larry Eustacy, Iowa State) was photographed attending frat parties at other schools following his team's games.

Usual frat party behavior ensued -- drinking cheap beer, kissing coeds. They ran pictures on the front page of the Des Moines Register.

My favorite quote from a coed: "He was like, 'What are you doing here? Why aren't you going to KU? The girls down there are much hotter. You belong there,'"

Here's the story: http://espn.go.com/ncb/news/2003/0428/1546141.html

Hey man nice shot
 

Petty? So are comments like "What Planet are you from?" You know what, paigow? I don't need you correcting me, and I think it's awfully presumptuous and not very becoming for you to do so.

I am hardly a mysogynist. That would indicate a dislike or hatred of women in general. In general, I like women very much. In particular, you annoy me, more often than not.

If you look up the definition of hag, it says an unattractive woman. Mind you, one. You are a woman, no? Besides, unattractiveness doesn't always have to do with physicality. Some of the most unattractive people I've ever met are objectively physically appealing.

Don't like being called a hag? Sorry. How about this? Fuck you.

P.S. Feel free to place me on your ignore list.

I don't know if this has been posted, but here's a White Stripes article from Slate (no registration!) via msnbc.com:

Excerpt: "The Stripes have been hailed as the earthy, direct, low-tech antidote to computer-generated teen pop and dance music."

Link: http://www.msnbc.com/news/905238.asp?0dm=C1CNL

Hey man nice shot
 

You're from PA?

TM

Just Don't Get it On Film
 

ESPN's "Page 2" obtained a copy of the police report. http://espn.go.com/page2/s/kluck/030429.html My favorite entries:

11:23 p.m. Gives kid at the door a few bucks, grabs plastic cup. Remarks that the "music seems louder than it did when we were in college." Notices girl in low-cut jeans with thong sticking out -- promptly forgets about music.

12:00 a.m. Drinks can of Natural Lite Ice.

12:15 a.m. Drinks can of Natural Lite Ice. Thinks briefly about Missouri zone defense. Forgets when kissed on cheek by a girl that looks like that chick from Dawson's Creek.

2:34 a.m. Explains nuances of the fullcourt press to a 19-year-old girl with a major in Business Systems wearing a "Hello Kitty" T-shirt.

Coachella
 

That sounds about right.

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COahella/Calverton
 

Blur's big hit is called "Song 2," but it's more popularly known as the "Woo Hoo" song. Shawn Green used that song as his at-bat music for his entire Blue Jay career. It is an all-time great Jock Jam.

str("If you like the Hives, put your thumb in the air. Now put your other thumb in the air. There are now lots of thumbs in the air")8

Toward gender neutral cusswords
 

Though I seriously doubt paigow's hurt feelings are more than feigned, I have to ask the women of the board --- what's the current feeling on womyn-centric name-calling?

Let's leave aside the c-word, which is unspeakable and a hot-button issue unto itself. But how about "bitch"? Is it sexist and loaded and unfair, or just the feminine-gendered "asshole"? Are there any women who would prefer to be called a "dick"? Or an "asshole" or "prick"? What do we do with women who are cowardly --- can we call such woman "pussies" without it being mistaken for a sexual slur? Let's assume, for the moment, that we won't succeed in stamping out the use of the p-word as applied to men; does it minimize the slight to women to have it apply to them based on an ungendered character flaw?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Hey man nice shot
 

check your PMS

Manor House on PBS
 

I've only gotten through the first hour so far. Of course I know from the teasers (no spoiler me) that the footmen are about to get disciplined for something. I hope it's sexual. I think the blonde accountant is cruisin' for a bruisin' next.

I think the 9-year-old is precious. He was so genuine and appreciative of everything, it was great to watch. His interaction with the tutor was hilarious. If he turns into a raging Fauntelroy, don't tell me.

My complaint is that they should have found a family that included an of-age hot chick. The sexual intrigue would have been better if it was inter-class, as opposed to among the staff. Charlie and Rob probably would have gotten a three-way going within two days of Miss ________'s arrival. That older sister chick isn't doing it for me.

BTW, Mr. Edgar is already taking his job a little too seriously. I guess they needed one person who knew what the hell he was doing.